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Old 11-12-2012, 23:44   #1
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How many of you carry with "+1" round in the chamber?

as in, carrying a standard 1911 with eight rounds total, or like a Glock 19 with 16 rounds total?

I'd like to know who else loads the magazine, inserts into gun, chambers the first round, and then tops off the magazine again.
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Old 11-13-2012, 00:07   #2
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Although, I load, rack, holster, release mag, top off, insert mag, check to make sure mag is secured.
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Old 11-13-2012, 00:27   #3
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I don't top off my mag, but yeah, I carry full capacity.

>Put one round in Mag A (empty).
>Chamber that round.
>Replace Mag A with Mag B (full)
>Holster
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Old 11-13-2012, 00:42   #4
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I always carry +1. Never had any malfunctions or problems due to it - might as well.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:47   #5
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:49   #6
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:00   #7
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Always. G23 - 13 in the mag, 1 in the pipe.

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Old 11-13-2012, 05:12   #8
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I've always carried +1.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:39   #9
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Of course. It's like asking "how many people load up the magazine with one LESS round than it will hold?"
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:42   #10
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I had the same question, thanks for asking. I learn something new everyday.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:42   #11
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It depends on the gun, and where I might be headed.
If I know I'm going someplace where I have to disarm, I don't top the mag off after chambering. So when I unload I re-insert the round in the mag without having a loose round somewhere. I also take care to limit the number of times that round is re-chambered.

Otherwise, gun is loaded, chambered, and mag topped off + at least one spare mag.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:24   #12
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Of course. It's like asking "how many people load up the magazine with one LESS round than it will hold?"
I do.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:27   #13
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Depends on the capacity and how tight the mag is when full. I'm not going to sweat 15 vs 16 rounds. If the odds of a problem are even a teeny bit higher then it's not worth it.

Anyone that carries +1, you better make sure you test that configuration at the range (with your carry ammo) to make sure there are no issues!

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Old 11-13-2012, 06:35   #14
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It depends on the gun, and where I might be headed.
If I know I'm going someplace where I have to disarm, I don't top the mag off after chambering. So when I unload I re-insert the round in the mag without having a loose round somewhere. I also take care to limit the number of times that round is re-chambered.

Otherwise, gun is loaded, chambered, and mag topped off + at least one spare mag.
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This....Most of the time it is +1...however, there are times, albeit a few, I won't.




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Old 11-13-2012, 06:51   #15
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:54   #16
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Depends on the capacity and how tight the mag is when full. I'm not going to sweat 15 vs 16 rounds. If the odds of a problem are even a teeny bit higher then it's not worth it.

Anyone that carries +1, you better make sure you test that configuration often at the range to make sure there are no issues!
This guy gets it.

I helped field new Glocks to a department, and teach basic pistol to recruits. We watched tens of thousands of slide-forward reloads. There were a disturbing number of failures to seat the magazine. Most, but not all, were from um...smaller officers. We reasoned that what happened to them could happen to guys who were wounded or exhausted or in awkward postures. Downloading by one eliminated all that.

Going from 16 to 15 was a proper trade to get the near-guarantee of seated reloads.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:37   #17
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as in, carrying a standard 1911 with eight rounds total,
I'd like to know who else loads the magazine, inserts into gun, chambers the first round, and then tops off the magazine again.
8+1 in 1911s here. (Wilson or Tripp)
Always insert mag, chamber round and top off mag.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:41   #18
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Only have one carry pistol that can hold ten plus one of 45 ACP. But I always top it off.

Rest of my carry pistols won't hold more than 6 plus one, unless I use an extended magazine. So I always top off. I do carry an extended magazine for a spare on most of those pistols.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:51   #19
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I'm in the minority. I carry chambered, but I don't top off the mag after chambering. It is a small reduction in capacity, especially if you carry one or more backup mags. As mentioned, function issues occasionally occur, but mostly I just don't bother, to be honest.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:11   #20
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I just have a partially loaded spare mag on the dresser.

When I am done field stripping to oil or perform some other maintenance then I just pop in the spare mag, chamber a fresh round, and insert the full magazine.

I have a few spare mags... and it saves the spring on the carry magazines.

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Old 11-13-2012, 10:14   #21
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I always top-off mags in handguns and recommend the same in rifles and shotguns should the need arise. As for failures to seat, often cited in downloading arguments, it either boils down to training or equipment issues. If a capacity-loaded magazine will not seat on a closed chamber, it is either improperly loaded or sucks and needs replacement.
I'd hate to be in the position of needing one more round to finish a fight knowing I failed to top off my given weapon.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:28   #22
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When carried, my G30, or any other of my guns are topped off with one in the chamber, a full mag inserted, and a full spare on my hip. without that, Glocks make terrible hammers.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:37   #23
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:38   #24
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Yup, +1 is how I roll
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:35   #25
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I'd hate to be in the position of needing one more round to finish a fight knowing I failed to top off my given weapon.
This is, IMO, a wishful argument based on false thinking. Do you carry a G17 instead of a G19 in case you needed that 16th round? A Styer instead of a G17 for the 18th round?

Fact is, I can find no examples of a gunfight lost on the 15th round that would have been won on the 16th. And the equipment issue--aka design issue--got solved without having to buy and test 5000 new magazines.
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