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Old 08-20-2014, 17:12   #1
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Heavy .40 S&W

Here's a compilation of most all of the warmer .40 S&W loads I've worked up in a more condensed version. The data is mostly all there, sometimes an OAL is left out or the type of brass and primer used, but for most of my "heavy" .40 S&W loads I used Federal brass with CCI SP primers.

I'll try and make one post per powder and within that post will have the firearm used and it will be updated as new data comes in. If a specific barrel was used, it will be mentioned, if nothing is listed, it's with stock barrel.

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**As always, drop charge weight by roughly 10% if you want to work up some of these loads. These loads are not plug and play in all guns, that's why you must work them up!**

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VV 3N38
G35 6" KKM:
135gr Nosler JHP, 12.3gr VV 3N38, New Win @ 1.130": 1607 fps (10 fps ES)
155gr Rem JHP, 10.8gr VV 3N38, New Win @ 1.130" : 1404 fps (15 fps ES)
(I did run in and load a 155gr XTP over 11gr of 3N38 @ 1.150" and it did 1424 fps)
165gr FMJ, 10.2gr VV 3N38, New Win @ 1.130": 1314 fps (note: @ 1.120")
165gr Gold Dot, 10.7gr 3N38 @ 1.150" : 1392 fps avg ( 7 fps ES)
175gr Win STHP, 9.8gr 3N38 @ 1.140": 1288 fps (645 ft-lbs) 17 fps ES
180gr MGJHP, 9.2gr VV 3N38: 1205 fps
180gr LaserCast RNFP hardcast, 9.8gr 3N38 @ 1.135": 1338 fps (715 ft-lbs) 9 fps ES
180gr Hornady XTP, 9.5gr 3N38 @ 1.150" : 1269 fps avg (13 fps ES)
200gr WFNGC, 8.2gr VV 3N38 (1.150") = 1137 fps
200gr WFNGC, 8.5gr 3N38 @ 1.150" : 1195 fps avg (very consistant, 10 fps ES)
220gr SNS hardcast TCFP, 6.8gr 3N38 @ 1.150": 1011 fps

G35:

135gr Nos JHP, 12.0gr = = 1,529
155gr Rem JHP, 10.5gr = 1,363
165gr FMJ, 10.0gr = 1,266 (.2gr off book max)
175gr Winchester SilverTip JHP, 9.7gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,262 fps (7 fps ES)
180gr FMJ, 9.0gr : 1,192 (3 fps ES)
180gr RNFP Hardcast (38-40 style), 9.4gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,279 fps (6 fps ES)
180gr RNFP hardcast (38-40 style), 9.6gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,303 fps (31 fps ES)
200gr Nos JHP, 7.7gr = 1,064
200gr Beartooth WFNGC, 8.4gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,161 fps (21 fps ES)

G23:

155gr Rem JHP w/10.8gr VV 3N38 @ 1.125": 1,288 fps (14 fps extreme spread)
165gr Gold Dot w/10.2gr VV 3N38 @ 1.125": 1,230 fps (6 fps extreme spread)
170gr SWC, 9.7gr VV 3N38 @ ~1.130": 1,233 fps (21 fps ES)
180gr Gold Dot w/9gr VV 3N38 @ 1.135": 1,118 fps (13 fps extreme spread)
180gr RNFP (38-40 hardcast), 9.4gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,171 fps (6 FPS ES)
(KKM) 180gr RNFP hardcast, 9.8gr VV 3N38 @ 1.135": 1,226 fps (26 fps ES)
200gr Nosler JHP, 8.0gr 3N38 @ 1.135": 1,026 fps (16 fps ES)
200gr Beartooth WFNGC, 8.2gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,061 fps (21 fps ES)
(KKM) 200gr Beartooth WFNGC, 8.5gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,088 fps (13 fps ES)

G27:

155gr Rem JHP, 11.0gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130" (1x Win nickle): 1,263 fps
165gr Gold Dot, 10.2gr VV 3N38 @ 1.125": 1,177 fps
180gr Rem JHP, 9.0gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130" (1x Fed nickle): 1,091 fps
200gr Beartooth WFNGC, 8.4gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130": 1,032 fps (4 FPS ES)

CM40:


155gr Rem JHP, 10.5gr VV 3N38: 1,234 fps (27 fps ES)
165gr FMJ, 10gr VV 3N38: 1,155 fps
180gr FMJ, 9.0gr 3N38 @ 1.130" (CCI SP Fed 1x): 1,098 fps (22 fps ES)
200gr Nosler JHP, 7.8gr VV 3N38 @ 1.130", CCI SP, 1x WIn,: 975 Avg (16 fps ES)
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Old 08-20-2014, 17:16   #3
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G20 6" KKM conversion bbl:


180gr XTP, 9.0gr 800x @ 1.135": 1,339 fps (19 fps ES)
200gr WFNGC, 8.0gr 800x @ 1.100": 1,221 fps (20 fps ES)
Long OAL .40 S&W:
180gr XTP, 10.5gr 800x @ 1.250": 1,454 fps (14 fps ES)

G35 6" KKM:

135gr Nosler JHP, 12.0gr 800x @ 1.135": =1711 fps (877 ft-lbs)
(1x Win) 10.0gr 800x, 155gr Gold Dot @ 1.150": 1473 fps
155gr XTP, 10.4gr 800x @ 1.140": 1514 fps (790 ft-lbs)
165gr Gold Dot (1x Win) 8.5gr 800x @ 1.125": 1295 fps (20 fps ES)
165gr Gold Dot(1x Win) 9.0gr 800x @ 1.150": 1365 fps (14 fps ES)
165gr Gold Dot, 9.5gr 800x @ 1.135": 1418 fps
175gr Win STHP, 8.4gr 800-X @ 1.160": 1285 fps (18 fps ES)
(1x Win) 8.4gr 800x, 180gr XTP @ 1.150": 1276 fps
(1x Win) 8.5gr 800x, 180gr XTP @ 1.135": 1281 fps
180gr XTP, 8.8gr 800x @ 1.130" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,327 fps (31 fps ES)
180gr Laser Cast RNFP hardcast, 8.5gr 800x @ 1.135": 1,338 fps (715 ft-lbs) 15 fps ES
180gr XTP, 9.0gr 800x @ 1.150": (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,358 fps (12 fps ES) That's 737 ft-lbs
200gr Rainier RNFP, 7.5gr 800x @ 1.130": = 1,133 fps (37 fps ES)
(1x Win) 7.5gr 800x, 200gr XTP @ 1.150": 1147 fps
200gr WFNGC, 7.5gr 800-X @ 1.150": 1180 fps (22 fps ES)
200gr TCFP (Missouri Steeler), 7.5gr 800x @ 1.135": 1,188 fps (15 fps ES)
200gr XTP, 8.0gr 800x @ 1.130": (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,193 fps (20 fps ES)
200gr WFNGC, 7.7gr 800x @ 1.125" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1210 fps
200gr XTP, 7.7gr 800X @ 1.130" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,228 fps (52 ES) Two highest: 1,244 fps, 9 fps ES)
200gr XTP, 8.2gr 800x @ 1.150": (1x Fed, CCI SP): = 1,244 fps (22 fps ES) That's 687 ft-lbs
200gr WFNGC, 8.5gr 800x @ 1.120": 1252, 1280 = 1,266 fps (28 fps ES)
200gr XTP, 8.5gr 800x @ 1.140": 1,272 fps
200gr WFNGC, 8.3gr 800x @ 1.120": 1,278 fps (15 fps ES)
220gr SNS hardcast TCFP, 6.5gr 800x @ 1.150": 1091 fps (29 fps ES)
(1x Win) 6.2gr 800X, 230gr WFNGC @ 1.150": 1066 fps
"230gr" WFNGC, 6.5gr 800x @ 1.140"ish: 1071 fps (15 fps ES)

G35:

200gr Nosler JHP, 7.5gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,077 fps (33 fps ES)

G23:
135gr Nosler JHP, 11.2gr 800x @ 1.125" (1x Rem Nickle): 1,456 fps avg
(KKM) 135gr Nosler JHP, 12.0gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,514 fps
(KKM) 155gr XTP, 10.5gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,382 fps
(KKM) 165gr Gold Dot, 9.7gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,297 fps (36 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 7.7gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,086 fps (29 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 8.0gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,111 fps (24 fps ES)
(KKM) 180gr XTP, 9.0gr 800x @ 1.140": 1,195 fps (34 fps ES)
(KKM) 180gr RNFP hardcast, 8.5gr 800x @ 1.135": 1,197 fps (12 fps ES)
(KKM) 180gr RFNP hardcast, 9.0gr 800x @ 1.135": 1,228 fps (16 fps ES)
200gr Nosler JHP, 7.0gr 800x @ 1.135": 999 fps (4 fps ES)
200gr Nosler JHP, 7.5gr 800x @ 1.135": 1,035 fps (51 fps ES)
(KKM) 200gr Hornady XTP, 7.7gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,071 fps (26 fps ES)
(KKM) 200gr XTP, 8.2gr 800x @ 1.140": 1,095 fps (21 fps ES)
(KKM) 200gr WFNGC, 8.2gr 800x @ 1.125": 1,126 fps (32 fps ES)
(KKM) 200gr WFNGC, 8.0gr 800x @ 1.100": 1,152 fps (16 fps ES)
(KKM) 220gr SNS TCFP, 6.8gr 800x @ 1.145" (1x Rem, CCI SP.): = 997 fps (14 fps ES)

G27:
135gr Nos JHP, 11.2gr 800x @ 1.125": 1,388 fps
180gr MG JHP, 8.0gr 800x @ 1.130": 1,098 fps (16 fps ES Fed SP primers used)

CM40:
200gr Nosler JHP, 7.0gr 800X @ 1.130" (CCI SP, 1x Win): 945 Avg (27 fps ES)
200gr Missouir TCFP, 7.0gr 800x @ 1.125" (1x Speer Nickel, Fed SP): 1,052 fps (9 fps ES) For 491 ft-lbs
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Old 08-20-2014, 17:19   #4
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Blue Dot

G35 6" KKM:

180gr MGJHP, 9.0gr Blue Dot @ 1.125": 1177 fps
180gr MG JHP, 9.0gr Blue Dot @ 1.100": 1201 fps (nicely consistent)
180gr RNFP, 9.0gr Blue Dot @ 1.130": 1,309 fps (9 fps ES!)
200gr Missouri Steeler, 8.5gr Blue Dot @ 1.130": 1148 fps
200gr Nosler JHP, 8.5gr Blue Dot @ 1.130": 1165 fps (52 ES)

G35:
155gr XTP, 11.5gr BD @ 1.125": 1,302 fps
180gr Gold Dot, 9.3gr BD @ 1.130": 1,150 fps (4 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 9.3gr BD @ 1.120": 1,185 fps (28 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 9.5gr BD @ 1.120': 1,167 fps (39 fps ES)

G23:

G27:
180gr MG JHP, 9.0gr Blue Dot @ 1.125": 1,021 fps
180gr MG JHP, 8.9gr Blue Dot @ 1.120": 1,050 fps (3 FPS ES)
180gr MG JHP, 9.3gr Blue Dot @ 1.120": 1,097 fps (16 fps ES)

CM40:
180gr FMJ, 8.8gr Blue Dot @ 1.125": 989 Avg
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Longshot

G35 6" KKM:
135gr Nosler JHP, 12.6gr Longshot @ 1.125" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,849 fps (31 fps ES) That's 1,026 ft-lbs!
155gr XTP, 10gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,328 fps (1357 fps for two highest, 12 fps ES)
155gr Rem JHP, 10.8gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,554 fps (50 ES) That's 831 ft-lbs!
165gr Gold Dot, 9.0gr Longshot @ 1.130" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,412 fps (23 fps ES)
165gr Gold Dot, 9.5gr Longshot @ 1.130" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,485 fps (46 fps ES) That's 808 ft-lbs!
170gr SWC, 9.0gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,449 fps (20 fps ES)
180gr Rainier RNFP, 8.0gr Longshot @ 1.135": 1,274 fps (39 fps ES)
180gr hardcast RNFP (same), 8.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,294 fps (73 fps ES)
180gr hardcast RNFP (1x Fed, Fed SP), 8.2gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,301 fps (64 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 8.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,327 fps (15 fps ES)
180gr MGJHP, 8.8gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,402 fps (46 ES) That's 786 ft-lbs
200gr Nosler JHP, 6.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,135 fps (60 ES)
KKM 1.250" OAL (6" KKM G20 .40 barrel):
180gr Rem JHP, 9.2gr Longshot @ 1.250" (1x Win, Fed SP): 1,351 fps
180gr XTP, 9.2gr Longshot @ 1.200": 1,362 fps (31 fps ES)
200gr XTP, 8.5gr Longshot @ 1.250": 1,302 fps (28 fps ES)
200gr XTP, 8.8gr Longshot @ 1.250": 1,294 fps (25 fps ES)
200gr XTP 9.0gr Longshot @ 1.250": 1,338 fps (54 fps ES)

G35:
155gr Rem JHP, 10.5gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,408 fps (49 fps ES)
165gr Gold Dot, 9.0gr Longshot @ 1. 130": 1,310 fps (34 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 8.3gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,260 fps (70 fps ES)
180gr Gold Dot, 8.4gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,256 fps (39 fps ES) *Two highest: 1,268 fps / 6 fps ES
180gr MG JHP, 8.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1, 271 fps (59 fps ES)

G23:
(KKM) 155gr Remington JHP, 10.8gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,377 fps (85 fps ES)
(KKM) 165gr Speer Gold Dot, 9.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,251 fps (55 fps ES)
170gr SWC, 8.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,246 fps (71 fps ES)
180gr FMJ, 8.2gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,152 fps (42 fps ES) Two highest averge in around 1165 fps.
(KKM) 180gr MG JHP, 8.5gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,208 fps (18 fps ES) NOTE: 8.5gr Longshot with 180gr XTP is very accurate!

G27:
180gr FMJ, 8.2gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,125 fps (22 fps ES)
180gr FMJ, 8.4gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,104 fps (28 fps ES)
180gr FMJ, 8.6gr Longshot @ 1.130": 1,128 fps (21 fps ES)
CM40:
165gr FMJ, 8.2gr Longshot @ 1.125": 1,139 fps (37 fps ES)
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Power Pistol

G35 6" KKM:

(1x Win) 8.0gr Power Pistol, 165gr Sierra JHP @ 1.130": 1,243 fps
180gr MGJHP @ 1.120", 7.2gr Power Pistol and 1x Winchester brass,CCI SP: 1,183 fps
180gr MGHP, 7.5gr Power Pistol @ 1.150", 1x Win : 1,200 fps avg.
180gr RNFP, 7.2gr Power Pistol @ 1.130": 1,225 fps (17 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 7.8gr Power Pistol @ 1.135": 1,247 fps (33 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 8.0gr Power Pistol @ 1.135": 1,272 fps (40 fps ES)
200gr Rainier RNFP, 6.5gr Power Pistol @ 1.125": 1,110 fps (16 fps ES + very efficient @ 84+ ft-lbs per grain)


G35:
165gr Sierra JHP, 8.0gr PP @ 1.125": 1,216 fps (34 fps ES)
180gr Gold Dot, 7.2gr PP @ 1.125": 1,110 fps (41 fps ES)
180gr Gold Dot, 7.5gr PP @ 1.125": 1,153 fps (12 fps ES!)

G23:
(KKM) 135gr Nosler JHP, 10.5gr Power Pistol @ 1.120" (1x Fed, CCI SP): 1,424 fps (56 fps ES)
135gr Nosler JHP, 10.0gr Power Pistol @ 1.125" (1x Win Nickle): 1,372 fps avg (stock Gen4 G23)
155gr Rem JHP w/9.0gr Power Pistol @ 1.125": 1,246 fps (30 fps ES)
165gr Gold Dot w/8.0gr Power Pistol @ 1.125": 1,154 fps (8 fps extreme spread)
170gr SWC, 8.0gr Power Pistol @ 1.125": 1,202 fps (45 fps ES)
180gr Gold Dot w/7.2gr Power Pistol @ 1.125": 1,065 fps (41 fps ES) (1,076 fps with two highest, 16 fps ES)

G27:
155gr XTP, 9.0gr Power Pistol @ 1.125": 1,196 fps (7 fps ES)
180gr MG JHP, 7.2gr Power Pistol @ 1.120": 1,044 fps (19 fps ES)

CM40:
155gr Rem JHP, 9.0gr Power Pistol: 1,195 fps (38 fps ES)
165gr FMJ, 8gr Power Pistol: 1,125 fps (25 fps ES)
180gr FMJ, 7.2gr Power Pistol: 1012, 1023, 1010 = 1,015 Avg
200gr Nosler JHP, 6.3gr Power Pistol @ 1.130", CCI SP, 1x Win : 906 Avg
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G35 6" KKM:

180gr MGHP, 7.0gr Unique @ 1.150", 1x Win : 1,201 fps avg
180gr MG JHP, 6.5gr Unique @ 1.100": 1,158 fps
180gr MGJHP, 6.5gr Unique @ 1.125": 1,180 fps (23 fps ES)
(1x Speer) 6.5gr Unique, 180gr MGJHP @ 1.110": 1,170 fps
180gr MG JHP, 6.5gr Unique @ 1.120" (mixed brass): 1,199 fps (88.5 ft-lbs per grain!)
180gr MG JHP, 6.5gr Unique @ 1.120" (1x Win, Fed SP): [Gen4 RSA] 1,207 fps (5 fps ES) For 582 ft-lbs
[Gen3 RSA aftermarket] = 1,202 fps (11 fps ES)
180g RNFP, 6.5gr Unique @ 1.130": 1,241 fps (2 fps ES) Note: 94.7 ft-lbs per 1.0gr powder

G35:

G23:

G27:
180gr MG JHP, 6.5gr Unique @ 1.125": 1,022 fps (13 fps ES)

CM40:
(1x Speer) 6.5gr Unique, 180gr MGJHP @ 1.110": 1,072 fps (yes, fairly stout from 3" Kahr)
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G35 6" KKM:
5.8gr WSF 180gr PDFMJ @ 1.125": 1,177 fps (5 fps ES)
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I'm sending off my KKM 6" G24 barrel this week to get the end threaded for use with a compensator It doesn't desperately need it, but anything to help is a good thing. I'll post up pics when it's finished.
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Here's a compilation of most all of the warmer .40 S&W loads I've worked up in a more condensed version. The data is mostly all there, sometimes an OAL is left out or the type of brass and primer used, but for most of my "heavy" .40 S&W loads I used Federal brass with CCI SP primers.

I'll try and make one post per powder and within that post will have the firearm used and it will be updated as new data comes in. If a specific barrel was used, it will be mentioned, if nothing is listed, it's with stock barrel.

If anybody wants to share their data feel free to post it up as well.

**As always, drop charge weight by roughly 10% if you want to work up some of these loads. These loads are not plug and play in all guns, that's why you must work them up!**

Original thread with most of this data and more:
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1452421
SDG23 you are one of the great ones, thanks.
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I don't know about great, but I'm glad I can help out in any way I can I'll post more data and update the thread when I get some new stuff.
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