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11-07-2012, 13:32
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Best Underwood 10mm SD choice?
I would like to know which round you would choose and your reasoning. Thanks!
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11-07-2012, 13:42
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Penetration: For out doors fun
10mm 180gr FMJ
10mm 200gr FMJ
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11-07-2012, 14:55
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SD choice is very dependant on expected encounters where you live, climate, housing, etc. But the performance of the GD 180 HP or XTP 200 HP from Underwood would be my consideration although I load my own.
If you're more likely to encounter outside your home in crowded areas GD 165 -180's may be better, Woods carry 200 XTP's.
Practice and secondary shots to manage recoil and placement are key to performing underpressure of SD situations.
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11-07-2012, 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _The_Shadow
SD choice is very dependant on expected encounters where you live, climate, housing, etc. But the performance of the GD 180 HP or XTP 200 HP from Underwood would be my consideration although I load my own.
If you're more likely to encounter outside your home in crowded areas GD 165 -180's may be better, Woods carry 200 XTP's.
Practice and secondary shots to manage recoil and placement are key to performing underpressure of SD situations.
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Without going into all the details I will be returning 2 boxes of the 200 XTP's to Kevin. I have not yet loaded any SD ammo just my FMJ's. The 165's would minimize over penetration. Right? Not looking for woods carry at this time.
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11-07-2012, 19:01
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We are actually discussing the Underwood ammo over at 10mmFirearms http://10mm-firearms.com/index.php. He is using IMR800X powder and one of the guys posted some pull down info with charge weights found inside for various bullet types.
About the over penatration...possibly? Many factors come into play, barriers, clothing layers, physical size of the target, shot placement or impact loaction and what internal structures are incountered by the projectile.
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11-07-2012, 21:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _The_Shadow
We are actually discussing the Underwood ammo over at 10mmFirearms http://10mm-firearms.com/index.php. He is using IMR800X powder and one of the guys posted some pull down info with charge weights found inside for various bullet types.
About the over penatration...possibly? Many factors come into play, barriers, clothing layers, physical size of the target, shot placement or impact loaction and what internal structures are incountered by the projectile. |
Shadow: please read my reply to the link you provided.
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11-08-2012, 02:39
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I use the 180g GD's (1300 FPS) in my Glocks and 10xx Smith's.
I use the 180g GD (1240 FPS) in my Delta Elites.
I like the combination of good penetration and energy. I use mine for SD. Not woods.
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11-08-2012, 07:48
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Originally Posted by Kwesi
Shadow: please read my reply to the link you provided.
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Kwesi, If you happen by here I posted on the other forum for you to review or you can answer in a PM if you wish. Thanks! 
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11-08-2012, 09:22
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Based on what I've tested so far, my favorites would be the 180 gr XTP, 165 gr Gold Dot, and the 180 gr Gold Dot.
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11-08-2012, 13:37
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Anybody like the Underwood 180 GDHP at 1240 fps.
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11-08-2012, 17:50
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Thanks everyone. I decided to go with their Delta Elite 180 grain load.
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11-08-2012, 17:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwesi
Thanks everyone. I decided to go with their Delta Elite 180 grain load.
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That's what I use in my Glock 20SF. After seeing tnoutdoor9's 180gr GDHP test, I figured backing off the velocity a smidge wouldn't hurt. Not to mention the DE load shoots great.
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11-08-2012, 19:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwesi
Thanks everyone. I decided to go with their Delta Elite 180 grain load.
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Should be an effective choice.
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11-09-2012, 04:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtbones
Anybody like the Underwood 180 GDHP at 1240 fps.
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I use these in my Colt Delta Elites.
Very reliable.
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11-09-2012, 15:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwesi
Without going into all the details I will be returning 2 boxes of the 200 XTP's to Kevin. I have not yet loaded any SD ammo just my FMJ's. The 165's would minimize over penetration. Right? Not looking for woods carry at this time.
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Why are you returning those?
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11-09-2012, 15:49
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Quote:
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Why are you returning those?
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I purchased them to use in a CA89-10 (H&K MP5-10mm clone) to run on full auto. These weapons DO NOT have a barrel ramp and Kevin's website states not to use it in a rampless barrel.
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11-09-2012, 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwesi
I purchased them to use in a CA89-10 (H&K MP5-10mm clone) to run on full auto. These weapons DO NOT have a barrel ramp and Kevin's website states not to use it in a rampless barrel.
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So. Jealous. 
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11-09-2012, 16:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwesi
I purchased them to use in a CA89-10 (H&K MP5-10mm clone) to run on full auto. These weapons DO NOT have a barrel ramp and Kevin's website states not to use it in a rampless barrel.
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Good lord... 10mm full auto  
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11-09-2012, 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RYT 2BER
Why are you returning those?
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Keep em, just in just in case you go to the zoo, or circus.
Hope you have a g30 or g29.
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11-10-2012, 04:21
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Originally Posted by RYT 2BER
Why are you returning those?
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You can read about it here 2BER:
http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10m...mo-disections/
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11-10-2012, 06:39
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Thanks for the link interesting stuff
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11-10-2012, 06:43
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for personal protection i like the 135gr. if i were in a hard winter area id bump it up to the 165gr.
for woods the 200 gr., for police work the 180gr.
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11-10-2012, 07:26
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Originally Posted by cowboywannabe
for personal protection i like the 135gr. if i were in a hard winter area id bump it up to the 165gr.
for woods the 200 gr., for police work the 180gr.
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Good ideas! I like the 155 grain also.
If I were Colonel of the Alaska State Police I think I would have them carrying Hornady 200 grain XTP. I know it's a week load by 10mm standards, but as we know not all coppers can handle the full power 10mm stuff (or even medium power for that matter). I like the 200 grain for them in case they have to put down some of the larger Alaskan animals.
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11-10-2012, 09:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RYT 2BER
Good lord... 10mm full auto |
My only reason for mentioning full auto is because the gun cycled and ran properly for about 5 rounds on semi before attempting full auto.
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11-10-2012, 10:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwesi
My only reason for mentioning full auto is because the gun cycled and ran properly for about 5 rounds on semi before attempting full auto.
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We like 10mm on full auto!
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