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Old 11-06-2012, 11:48   #26
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How about ferritic nitrocarburizing your Baer?

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:07   #27
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don't overthink this. the navy vet that responded has the best answer. carry whatever. oil and inspect it frequently,move on.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:31   #28
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I would not have a 1911 in your situation, when I am around my boat or out on it, the FiveSeven or G33 goes on duty. Glocks simply excel in this environment. My G27 feel into the saltwater more than once and was still GTG.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:48   #29
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How about ferritic nitrocarburizing your Baer?
And ruin a perfectly good excuse to pick up another 1911?

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I would not have a 1911 in your situation, when I am around my boat or out on it, the FiveSeven or G33 goes on duty. Glocks simply excel in this environment. My G27 feel into the saltwater more than once and was still GTG.
A Glock would be the obvious choice, yes. As would the HK P30 I've already got that I mentioned earlier. But, I want a .45, and my hands are freakishly small.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:59   #30
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And ruin a perfectly good excuse to pick up another 1911?


A Glock would be the obvious choice, yes. As would the HK P30 I've already got that I mentioned earlier. But, I want a .45, and my hands are freakishly small.
XDs in .45 your welcome.
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Old 11-06-2012, 16:25   #31
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a 1911 wouldn't be my first choice around water because it sinks at a faster rate if dropped in water compare to a Glock. but If I must, Birdsong's Black T is what comes to mind.
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Old 11-06-2012, 17:45   #32
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a 1911 wouldn't be my first choice around water because it sinks at a faster rate if dropped in water compare to a Glock. but If I must, Birdsong's Black T is what comes to mind.
You think that you can dive fast enough to catch a sinking Glock?
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Old 11-06-2012, 18:08   #33
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You think that you can dive fast enough to catch a sinking Glock?
certainly. mad skillz. get some
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:57   #34
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When I lived in South Florida on the water, I had a stainless Ed Brown Kobra Black-T'd. I figured that stainless+Black-T was at least doing my part to prevent rust.
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Old 11-11-2012, 13:56   #35
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The desert and the sea are said to be two environments the 1911 doesn't handle well.

...says who??
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Old 11-11-2012, 16:55   #36
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The desert is tough on every firearm and not just M1911. As far as the sea goes, what would cause the sea to jam up the guns? Kelps?
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Old 11-11-2012, 17:09   #37
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Kelp can be very obnoxious!
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Old 11-11-2012, 17:17   #38
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The desert is tough on every firearm and not just M1911. As far as the sea goes, what would cause the sea to jam up the guns? Kelps?
Saltwater........

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Old 11-11-2012, 20:34   #39
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C&S Trident 1911. $3395

(it is on my wish list)
Got one. It rocks. Per the instructions, I run it totally dry. Not a drop of lube anywhere on that gun. It's the most accurate 1911 I've ever shot, not that that's saying much, but everyone who shoots it falls in love with it.

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Cerakote over stainless.
And use of a lanyard loop!!!!!!
You won't get a better answer from a better source anywhere.
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Old 11-11-2012, 21:50   #41
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a 1911 wouldn't be my first choice around water because it sinks at a faster rate if dropped in water compare to a Glock. but If I must, Birdsong's Black T is what comes to mind.
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Saltwater........

So, if I were to dip in my gun in saltwater, it'd get all jammed up and I can't fire a round?

Now, I know that I'm not a US Navy SEAL, nor do I even pretend to play one, but don't they take their guns underwater?
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Old 11-11-2012, 22:38   #43
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I'm not worried about saltwater impairing function, more just concerned that I'd have to clean it three times a day to avoid rust.

That said, I think I may just build up something based on the last released parts sheet for the old MEU(SOC) 1911.
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I'm not worried about saltwater impairing function, more just concerned that I'd have to clean it three times a day to avoid rust.

That said, I think I may just build up something based on the last released parts sheet for the old MEU(SOC) 1911.
You don't have to clean it three times a day to avoid rust. Once a day is plenty. Also, it's not "cleaning" if you were not to shoot it. Wipe it down with new lube is hardly a bother.

$300 worth of magic coating is a lot of gun oil...I'm just saying. But hey, finishers gotta make a living too.
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You don't have to clean it three times a day to avoid rust. Once a day is plenty. Also, it's not "cleaning" if you were not to shoot it. Wipe it down with new lube is hardly a bother.

$300 worth of magic coating is a lot of gun oil...I'm just saying. But hey, finishers gotta make a living too.
We'll see, I suppose. Salt water can do some nasty things to metal. But, the gun I'll be taking a lot of build cues from was simply Parkerized, and it held up for decades, so you may be right.
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Got one. It rocks. Per the instructions, I run it totally dry. Not a drop of lube anywhere on that gun. It's the most accurate 1911 I've ever shot, not that that's saying much, but everyone who shoots it falls in love with it.

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Post a pic or 2. The only pics I have ever seen of one, was from the C&S web site.

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:38   #47
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C&S Trident 1911. $3395

(it is on my wish list)



I don't care how high a quality pistol it is I sure as hell couldn't spend big bucks on a 1911 that said made in Brazil on the side.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:05   #48
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+1 for stainless

I keep a S&W 65 in my boat bag
That being said, I love having an excuse to get another toy, so Project Marine 1911 is now underway
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Old 11-12-2012, 15:36   #49
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I don't care how high a quality pistol it is I sure as hell couldn't spend big bucks on a 1911 that said made in Brazil on the side.
How about a C&S high Power?

http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index....how&ref=BARBHP

Scroll down for the price.....

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I don't care how high a quality pistol it is I sure as hell couldn't spend big bucks on a 1911 that said made in Brazil on the side.



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