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Old 10-12-2012, 08:12   #1
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Help me decide which 9mm 1911

Debating which 9mm 1911 I should go with. This will be for range target shooting only. Most important to me will be the accuracy and out of factory trigger.

Kimber Stainless Target 9mm
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Their price around my neck of woods will be: Kimber $1250, Lawman $1650, RangeMaster $1765 OTD. Part of me is yelling "just got a RIA($600) and do a trigger job". But I think it's time for me to step up and own a $1k plus pistol.

If there is any other 9mm 1911 you guys can recommend to me, please feel free.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:20   #2
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If you could stretch the budget just a bit from $1765, you could have a Les Baer and a much better gun IMO. Here's my 9mm Baer Heavy Monolith.
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Also consider the STI Trojan which is a great value at around $1000.

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Old 10-12-2012, 09:21   #3
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I'd go with STI. Better guns without the firing pin safety.
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I love my kimbers but 1400 for a stainless target is WAY out of line. I would go with the Lawman, or If you can find one, look at the Dan Wesson Pointman 9 http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/...pointman-nine/
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:02   #5
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Are you looking for reliability? Accuracy? Ergonomics? Looks? Build quality? What are you priorities for this gun? One can likely assume that most if not all 1911's in the over $1000 price range should be excellent products and should have all of the attributes I have listed.
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I love my kimbers but 1400 for a stainless target is WAY out of line. I would go with the Lawman, or If you can find one, look at the Dan Wesson Pointman 9 http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/...pointman-nine/
Sorry, I made a typo. It should be $1250 range OTD at my area. If I can find one.
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If it ain't a Colt, it's a copy.
That is a true statement, but alot of the copies are much better quality than the original.
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That is a true statement, but alot of the copies are much better quality than the original.
Ah yes, please enlighten us with Kimber's QAQC.
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Ah yes, please enlighten us with Kimber's QAQC.
I wasnt talking about kimber. Quality wise I would put colt and kimber in the same class. I have owned both. I was fortunate enough to handle a DW Heritage a couple of months ago at a match. I would put it leaps and bounds ahead of both kimber and colt. Im thinking my next 1911 is going to either be an STI escort in 9mm or a DW RZ10 if I can ever find one.
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I wasnt talking about kimber. Quality wise I would put colt and kimber in the same class. I have owned both. I was fortunate enough to handle a DW Heritage a couple of months ago at a match. I would put it leaps and bounds ahead of both kimber and colt. Im thinking my next 1911 is going to either be an STI escort in 9mm or a DW RZ10 if I can ever find one.
How's the price of the Dan Wesson?
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How's the price of the Dan Wesson?
The MSRP on the RZ10 like I want is $1350. Unfortunately there just arent a lot of them out there. There is one on gun broker, but its listed at $1695 and im not going to pay $350 over msrp for any gun
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Thanks for your input.
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The MSRP on the RZ10 like I want is $1350. Unfortunately there just arent a lot of them out there. There is one on gun broker, but its listed at $1695 and im not going to pay $350 over msrp for any gun
Since that it's more expensive than the Colt, then it stands to reason that it should be better made, right?
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Thanks for your input.
Always try to help out an Oriental brother.

Seriously, the Colts of today isn't like the crap that was turned out twenty or thirty years ago.
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Old 10-12-2012, 19:44   #16
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I have a RIA Tac in 9mm. It shoots great, no malfunctions. I paid about $425 for it. Not sure why you think it would need a trigger job more or less than the others that you mentioned.
The only thing I don't like are the black sights that came on it.
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My Springfield Armory Loaded in 9 has been great
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Since that it's more expensive than the Colt, then it stands to reason that it should be better made, right?
Absolutely. But also take a look at the special combat govt. Roughly $1900+ Then take a Look at the Les Baer Premier II. Both are roughly the same price but I guarantee that there is a lot more hand fitting and attention to detail in the Baer.
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Yeah, a better copy
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