I can't find a G32 to try... Will a G23 suffice?

Inebriated · 10-24-2012, 19:29

So yeah, no one around has a G32, so I'm wondering if trying the G23 would give me the same feel?

All I want to do is just compare it to my G26 and G21 and see how quickly I can get on target after recoil, and since everyone I've talked to says .40 recoils slightly more, it SHOULD be a good representative. Is that the case?

dkf · 10-24-2012, 19:37

Shoot some 155gr jhps through the G23. If you are ok with that you will not have issues with the .357sig.

barth · 10-24-2012, 19:52

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Originally Posted by dkf

Shoot some 155gr jhps through the G23. If you are ok with that you will not have issues with the .357sig.

+1
Some Speer GDHP 155 gr 1200 fps will be close enough to tell.
You're not going to have any issue with the 357.

cowboy1964 · 10-24-2012, 23:50

I think the Gold Dot 155gr would be harsher than a 125gr .357 Sig. Heck, I think the 165gr Gold Dot is. 135gr would be closest.

vafish · 10-25-2012, 04:56

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Originally Posted by cowboy1964

I think the Gold Dot 155gr would be harsher than a 125gr .357 Sig. Heck, I think the 165gr Gold Dot is. 135gr would be closest.

Agree with cowboy, a 135 gr .40 will be very close to a 125 .357 Sig.

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cowboy1964 · 10-25-2012, 12:17

I shot some 135gr. .40 for the first time last week. I was expecting more snap for some reason but it was very mild. Almost on par with a 180gr though, which is kind of surprising. 180gr might have a touch more rearward impulse because of the weight.

sgammo has 135gr Ranger for $17.95

http://sgammo.com/product/winchester...ow-point-q4368

Inebriated · 10-25-2012, 18:04

I won't be able to use anything except what the range has, but I'll try to find the lightest weight.

Do you guys happen to find .357 Sig to have more muzzle flip? That's all I care about checking out. Noise, flash, push, doesn't matter to me, just want to see if I can live with the muzzle flip.

SCmasterblaster · 10-25-2012, 18:16

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Originally Posted by dkf

Shoot some 155gr jhps through the G23. If you are ok with that you will not have issues with the .357sig.

THIS is some good advice. Makes sense.

dkf · 10-25-2012, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Inebriated

I won't be able to use anything except what the range has, but I'll try to find the lightest weight.

Do you guys happen to find .357 Sig to have more muzzle flip? That's all I care about checking out. Noise, flash, push, doesn't matter to me, just want to see if I can live with the muzzle flip.

Kinda like a quick muzzle flip but settles down rather quick. You could always pick up a box or two of Underwoods hot 9mm 124gr load and shoot it through your G26 or find a G19 to shoot it through. It will be close to the recoil of the average .357sig load. I don't really notice much recoil difference between my G32 and G33 (both gen3)

SCmasterblaster · 10-26-2012, 08:54

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Originally Posted by dkf

Kinda like a quick muzzle flip but settles down rather quick. You could always pick up a box or two of Underwoods hot 9mm 124gr load and shoot it through your G26 or find a G19 to shoot it through. It will be close to the recoil of the average .357sig load. I don't really notice much recoil difference between my G32 and G33 (both gen3)

Underwood sure makes some hot ammo, eh?

PghJim · 11-01-2012, 12:28

Buy a 357sig barrel for the G23. The recoil, I believe is not only less with the 357 sig, but the recoil characteristic of the sig helps you get back on target quicker. The 40, always wants to twist in my hand and feels harsher.

SCmasterblaster · 11-01-2012, 13:49

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Originally Posted by PghJim

Buy a 357sig barrel for the G23. The recoil, I believe is not only less with the 357 sig, but the recoil characteristic of the sig helps you get back on target quicker. The 40, always wants to twist in my hand and feels harsher.

Great idea!

unit1069 · 11-01-2012, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Inebriated

So yeah, no one around has a G32, so I'm wondering if trying the G23 would give me the same feel?

All I want to do is just compare it to my G26 and G21 and see how quickly I can get on target after recoil, and since everyone I've talked to says .40 recoils slightly more, it SHOULD be a good representative. Is that the case?

I don't think a G-23 should substitute for the G-32 so I'd suggest that you do your comparison with the G-32. Additionaly, if I remember correctly the rear sight on the G-32 is different than the G-23.

SCmasterblaster · 11-01-2012, 16:09

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Originally Posted by unit1069

I don't think a G-23 should substitute for the G-32 so I'd suggest that you do your comparison with the G-32. Additionaly, if I remember correctly the rear sight on the G-32 is different than the G-23.

Why/how would the sight be different?

unit1069 · 11-01-2012, 19:14

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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster

Why/how would the sight be different?

More knowledgeable GT members can tell you for certain but I believe the G-32 rear sight is higher than the G-23, something to take into consideration if converting a G-23 to .357sig.

Tiro Fijo · 11-01-2012, 20:02

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Originally Posted by unit1069

More knowledgeable GT members can tell you for certain but I believe the G-32 rear sight is higher than the G-23, something to take into consideration if converting a G-23 to .357sig.

I have a .357 SIG barrel for my G23 and it shoots about 3" high at distance using the sights for .40 S&W. At 7 - 10 yds. Fed. HST .357 SIG is pretty much dead on.

dkf · 11-01-2012, 20:05

With the Ameriglo sights I use the G20, G21, G29, G30, G31, G32 and G36 use the .272" rear sight and the others (including the G33) use the .256" rear sight. So notch much difference.

It sounds to me like the op is more concerned about the recoil charactoristics so for that the difference in sight height is not really a concern.

bobtheelf · 11-01-2012, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Inebriated

So yeah, no one around has a G32, so I'm wondering if trying the G23 would give me the same feel?

All I want to do is just compare it to my G26 and G21 and see how quickly I can get on target after recoil, and since everyone I've talked to says .40 recoils slightly more, it SHOULD be a good representative. Is that the case?

To me, they're close enough. My 32 might be a little easier to control than the 23, but not by a lot. They're both very accurate and quick to get back on target.

Regarding sight height, the sights for the 32 are slightly taller than for the 23. The place I got my 32 at put the wrong night sights on it and I didn't double check. I didn't notice until I first took it to the range and it was hitting low.

clarkstoncz · 11-02-2012, 03:21

They use 45/10mm sights on the .357 Glocks.

My buddy wants Nites on his G31, and the local shop confirmed that they are indeed
different sights than the 9mm/40 kind.

a hot 9mm acts like well, a hot 9mm, and NOT a .357 SIG that has a more rapid
report and muzzle blast at the muzzle, with a more rearward push than flipping up.

.40 Glocks have the mentioned twisting and flipping and rearward recoil that
smack my palm.

I'm no fan of the Snorty Forty.

Much prefer the recoil of the G32 and G33.

In any event, you will be very pleased with your Glock 357.

SCmasterblaster · 11-02-2012, 07:41

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Originally Posted by unit1069

More knowledgeable GT members can tell you for certain but I believe the G-32 rear sight is higher than the G-23, something to take into consideration if converting a G-23 to .357sig.

That would make a difference even at 10 yards!

unit1069 · 11-02-2012, 09:33

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Originally Posted by clarkstoncz

Much prefer the recoil of the G32 and G33.

I've read quite a few posts from baby Glock owners that the babies have milder recoil than the compacts in all calibers, most likely due to the different recoil spring assemblies.

Since you own both sizes what is your opinion?

SCmasterblaster · 11-02-2012, 11:03

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Originally Posted by unit1069

I've read quite a few posts from baby Glock owners that the babies have milder recoil than the compacts in all calibers, most likely due to the different recoil spring assemblies.

Since you own both sizes what is your opinion?

That's right. The 4thGen Glocks have compound recoil spring assemblies.

Poohgyrr · 11-02-2012, 11:10

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Originally Posted by PghJim

Buy a 357sig barrel for the G23. The recoil, I believe is not only less with the 357 sig, but the recoil characteristic of the sig helps you get back on target quicker. The 40, always wants to twist in my hand and feels harsher.

I was happy with my 40's for a long time. But swapping barrels in my G35 has the 357Sig with less muzzle flip, easier straight back recoil, easier overall to shoot, and better accuracy.

Waiting for barrels for the G31 and I'll see how it compares.

FWIW....

SCmasterblaster · 11-02-2012, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Poohgyrr

I was happy with my 40's for a long time. But swapping barrels in my G35 has the 357Sig with less muzzle flip, more and easier straight back recoil, easier overall to shoot, and better accuracy.

Waiting for barrels for the G31 and I'll see how it compares.

FWIW....

I am getting a G22 soon, and I may get a .357 Sig barrel for it.

clarkstoncz · 11-04-2012, 09:09

The G33 has more recoil due to the sharper muzzle blast, at least for me.

They both have far less recoil than any .40s I've owned.