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Old 10-15-2012, 11:05   #1
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Hope these officers make it out of this ok. After viewing the comments I can only think of how weak the critics are. It takes officers like this to put their foot down and say enough is enough.
If anything the cuffs should never of come out until he was compliant or restrained. Too many broken fingers and swinging half hooked cuffs to not get them on the ground.




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Old 10-15-2012, 13:07   #2
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is there a video?

That link did not show one?

Did this happen in America, it would not seem so as written by the biased dewchbag...What a horrible piece of trash called an article.
In the picture the "defenseless man " has a good 5 inches and 20 lbs or more on the officer.
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Old 10-15-2012, 13:18   #3
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The video is at the bottom.
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Old 10-15-2012, 13:22   #4
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no workee for me I'll get it on my phone later.
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Old 10-15-2012, 13:29   #5
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What a lousy article. The suspect fought tooth and nail to the very end. Hardly defenseless.

I feel bad for the male officer, he was on his own the whole time. Nothing she did was effective in the least.
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Old 10-15-2012, 15:09   #6
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Lmao, one of the comments says "we don't live in Berlin anymore"

Wtf?


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Old 10-15-2012, 15:15   #7
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Lmao, one of the comments says "we don't live in Berlin anymore"

Most Germans are by nature, an ordered and polite society. They generally don't go off and publicly act out simian behaviors as a challenge to the police.

The non-spec. baby batter that said this has likely never been outside of the continental United States.
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Old 10-15-2012, 15:20   #8
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'A.T.M." was referred to as "D.O.C." at my place.

Direct, Order, Compel. It also commonly inferred by cops that if you failed D.O.C., one would soon be in the custody of D.O.C. [Dep't. Of Corrections].
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Old 10-15-2012, 16:17   #9
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What a completely unbiased well written piece of journalism.... Or not!

Video won't work from my phone, but the article is completely useless as far as what happened since its so slanted!




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Old 10-15-2012, 16:19   #10
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Perhaps this link will work better:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...-youth-center/
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Old 10-15-2012, 17:18   #11
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He pulls away, throws his arms around, and gets into a fighting stance right before the male LEO throws blows. Looked like a good use of force, to me. It was +1, just as I was trained. Hard empty hands on an actively incompliant subject who was under arrest. After the first few blows, I can't really tell what was happening.
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Old 10-15-2012, 17:36   #12
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I never understand an officer pulling out handcuffs for a non-compliant suspect who is not already being controlled by the officer.

I remember a video out of NYPD with several officers fighting a suspect (he may have been naked IIRC), all with their cuffs in hand. Just meant that they were fighting with one hand, and giving the suspect a weapon to fight back with. 😕Facepalm


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Saw the video the kid had a pretty good guard... only the first couple of shots landed then he went fetal ... What a joke he shoved and resisted the officer
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Old 10-15-2012, 18:28   #14
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The kid showed aggression from the moment he stood up. it it were me He would have been toast early on when he jabbed his hand at the officers face twice.
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Old 10-15-2012, 18:43   #15
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That was a horrible article. You can tell the cop was asking him several times, and had a fairly relaxed posture, right up until he pulled away from the female. Then the "make" came out. I'll work with that guy anytime.
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Old 10-15-2012, 19:05   #16
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Don't you guys know it's now ask, ask, ask again, kinda sorta tell, beg, ask, attempt reverse psychology, beg, cajole, appeal to reason, plead, and finally, bleed out as the suspect gets away?
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Don't you guys know it's now ask, ask, ask again, kinda sorta tell, beg, ask, attempt reverse psychology, beg, cajole, appeal to reason, plead, and finally, bleed out as the suspect gets away?
I prefer the "Old school method" Ask, tell, thump.

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Old 10-16-2012, 00:05   #18
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Hard empty hands on an actively incompliant subject who was under arrest. After the first few blows, I can't really tell what was happening.
I can tell you one thing.... if it took that many punches, he wasnt hitting him hard enough.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:32   #19
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Perp made the first stupid move by resisting. Good use of force by the male cop.
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'A.T.M." was referred to as "D.O.C." at my place.

Direct, Order, Compel. It also commonly inferred by cops that if you failed D.O.C., one would soon be in the custody of D.O.C. [Dep't. Of Corrections].
It seems they don't teach it here any more. There's some 9 step process that includes asking 30 times, begging, and pleading, and then calling someone like me when that doesn't work. Then when I get involved it takes about 7 seconds to get compliance (in most cases), and the inevitable, "You're not as nice as that young officer."

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