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12-02-2012, 19:40
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Originally Posted by Glock30Eric
It starts with food. 95% of what you eat and drink has the impact with your weight. Only 5% of physical activities could help to lose your weight.
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While I completely agree with eating the right foods (I try to eat mostly vegetarian and as much raw as possible), I KNOW firsthand that exercise is also extremely important and can counter bad eating.
When I was in Combat Diver school in Key West at age 29 (MANY years ago) we were eating everything we could lay our hands on: 3 full meals a day, bananas, Gatorade and Power Bars during breaks, then typically a half a large pizza in the evening while studying. I was still losing nearly two pounds a week. Graduated at 178 lbs, the same weight I was at 13.
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12-02-2012, 19:49
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Juris Glocktor
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You weigh more at 13 than I have ever weighed in my life....
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12-02-2012, 20:13
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Originally Posted by lawman800
You weigh more at 13 than I have ever weighed in my life....
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So this is you off duty?
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12-02-2012, 20:32
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#54
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Juris Glocktor
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Originally Posted by blueiron
So this is you off duty? 
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That is my ON duty.
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12-02-2012, 20:49
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Originally Posted by lawman800
You weigh more at 13 than I have ever weighed in my life....
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My average weight while in the military was about 190. When I graduated from the academy (at 44) I was 207.
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12-03-2012, 11:04
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I'm down 45 pounds in roughly 60 days. I eat less than 1,000 calories per day. Paleo all the way. Completely physician supevised. No more than 4-6 ounces of protein three times per day plus a serving of veggies. Very little fruit, sugar, carbs, etc. Basically, I stopped eating stuff that tastes good. I'm down 2-3 pant sizes. I just had to sell some pants and jackets and shirts on eBay. I just looked silly in them.
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12-03-2012, 11:59
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Originally Posted by ottomatic
While I completely agree with eating the right foods (I try to eat mostly vegetarian and as much raw as possible), I KNOW firsthand that exercise is also extremely important and can counter bad eating.
When I was in Combat Diver school in Key West at age 29 (MANY years ago) we were eating everything we could lay our hands on: 3 full meals a day, bananas, Gatorade and Power Bars during breaks, then typically a half a large pizza in the evening while studying. I was still losing nearly two pounds a week. Graduated at 178 lbs, the same weight I was at 13.
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In that situation, it's way different. You need to load up calories to keep you going through the intensive trainings.
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12-03-2012, 12:00
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Originally Posted by volsbear
I'm down 45 pounds in roughly 60 days. I eat less than 1,000 calories per day. Paleo all the way. Completely physician supevised. No more than 4-6 ounces of protein three times per day plus a serving of veggies. Very little fruit, sugar, carbs, etc. Basically, I stopped eating stuff that tastes good. I'm down 2-3 pant sizes. I just had to sell some pants and jackets and shirts on eBay. I just looked silly in them.
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Wowww!!
Do you have a pic of before and after? You could photoshop to cover your face if you like.
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12-03-2012, 12:10
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Originally Posted by Glock30Eric
Wowww!!
Do you have a pic of before and after? You could photoshop to cover your face if you like.
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You know, I didn't take a specific "before" pic. I'm sure I have photos laying around though. Maybe when I get closer to a goal weight.
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12-03-2012, 21:56
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Juris Glocktor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by volsbear
I'm down 45 pounds in roughly 60 days. I eat less than 1,000 calories per day. Paleo all the way. Completely physician supevised. No more than 4-6 ounces of protein three times per day plus a serving of veggies. Very little fruit, sugar, carbs, etc. Basically, I stopped eating stuff that tastes good. I'm down 2-3 pant sizes. I just had to sell some pants and jackets and shirts on eBay. I just looked silly in them.
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You don't like the saggy pants and shirt look that is so en vogue nowadays?
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12-04-2012, 06:40
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Originally Posted by lawman800
You don't like the saggy pants and shirt look that is so en vogue nowadays? 
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It's fer CCW. Big clothes is in. 'Tis the only reason I'm losing weight
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12-04-2012, 08:37
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Juris Glocktor
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I agree. Gotta allow for an inch at least to CCW properly, more if you are IWB a 10mm or equivalent yield in tactical nuclear devices.
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12-04-2012, 09:03
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Cutting regular soda started it all for me a few years ago, as well. I think I lost 8 lbs or so with just that one change. I had a slight slipup when I started school again full-time, but I've maintained -45lbs for about a year now no prob.
I had a similar wtf moment when I weighed 185+ (I'm only 5'7") after a couple years of post-Katrina overtime. Good luck with dropping the padding. Feels good man! I no longer have the mental barrier to putting on weight, and am eating more in order to build a little lean mass.
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12-04-2012, 09:10
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Originally Posted by volsbear
You know, I didn't take a specific "before" pic. I'm sure I have photos laying around though. Maybe when I get closer to a goal weight.
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OP, I definitely recommend taking pictures for yourself. I wish I'd started taking my narcissistic/humiliating shirtless mirror pics from the beginning, but I only started at +20 lbs or so from my current weight. It's still amazing since it can be hard to see a change in yourself by just looking every day. You can make an animated gif and watch yourself melt away!
Eta: I do definitely have pictures from around the time I was the heaviest, but it's just not the same.
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12-04-2012, 09:10
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Originally Posted by lawman800
I agree. Gotta allow for an inch at least to CCW properly, more if you are IWB a 10mm or equivalent yield in tactical nuclear devices.
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I'll know I've reached my goal weight when I can carry a Draco or AR pistol IWB.
Note to self: buy a Draco or AR pistol for IWB carry.
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I even began to question the value of life. Then I remembered there's beef jerky. And, once again, a man was saved by the promise of dry meat.
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12-04-2012, 09:11
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Originally Posted by NOLA_glock
OP, I definitely recommend taking pictures for yourself. I wish I'd started taking my narcissistic/humiliating shirtless mirror pics from the beginning, but I only started at +20 lbs or so from my current weight. It's still amazing since it can be hard to see a change in yourself by just looking every day. You can make an animated gif and watch yourself melt away!
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I didn't take a specific before picture of myself but my wife is a hobby photographer. They exist....
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12-04-2012, 09:31
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It's sugar, much more so than fat, that is the enemy of overweight people.
As long as I'm not touching any sugar AT ALL, I can drink whole milk, use olive oil for salad dressing - eat all sorts of natural fats, and I can still loose weight doing it. If I'm eating sugar, it wouldn't matter if the only other thing I ate was rice cakes - I'd still gain weight even if my calorie intake was pretty low.
Read the nutrition information on a can of Coke. No fat at all, right? Yet everyone knows that Cokes make you fat or they wouldn't make diet Coke. Think about that before going on a plan of shunning fat while continuing to eat more sugar. It only takes a little to totally screw up a weight loss plan. Just eating fat free salad dressing (which has sugar added to make up for the loss of taste) is enough to screw up a fat loss plan.
Bottom line : If it's got a picture of a skinny girl on the box with a tape measure around her waist, it's a scam and you should not buy it. It may not have any fat in it, but it's probably full of sugar and MSG (now falsely yet legally labeled as "natural flavor" by the FDA) and so much salt that there's no way anyone can loose weight while eating the crap.
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12-04-2012, 09:53
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Originally Posted by Brian Lee
It's sugar, much more so than fat, that is the enemy of overweight people.
As long as I'm not touching any sugar AT ALL, I can drink whole milk, use olive oil for salad dressing - eat all sorts of natural fats, and I can still loose weight doing it. If I'm eating sugar, it wouldn't matter if the only other thing I ate was rice cakes - I'd still gain weight even if my calorie intake was pretty low.
Read the nutrition information on a can of Coke. No fat at all, right? Yet everyone knows that Cokes make you fat or they wouldn't make diet Coke. Think about that before going on a plan of shunning fat while continuing to eat more sugar. It only takes a little to totally screw up a weight loss plan. Just eating fat free salad dressing (which has sugar added to make up for the loss of taste) is enough to screw up a fat loss plan.
Bottom line : If it's got a picture of a skinny girl on the box with a tape measure around her waist, it's a scam and you should not buy it. It may not have any fat in it, but it's probably full of sugar and MSG (now falsely yet legally labeled as "natural flavor" by the FDA) and so much salt that there's no way anyone can loose weight while eating the crap.
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That's a trend that just won't die quickly enough. It doesn't help that it just sounds intuitively true on that face of it that eating a lot of fat will make you fat.
I'm in the beginning of a ketogenic diet that I plan on sticking with for just a couple of weeks in order to cut a little (very little, actually. I'm just being vain.) belly fat. My calories are about 70% from fats.
Andouille, cream cheese, 10% fat Greek yogurt, coconut oil, avocados and a hefty portion of meat. If I lose a sixteenth of a pound of fat after I beef up my lipid metabolism Ill be fine because this 2 week diet is just delicious. It doesn't hurt that I've never had much of a sweet tooth.
A helpful thing to remember is that one of insulin's functions is to signal fat synthesis and storage. That doesn't mean you can't get your chubbs on if you overeat any kind of food, but it is significantly easier to do it with lots of simple carbohydrates.
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12-04-2012, 10:56
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Originally Posted by NOLA_glock
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That's a trend that just won't die quickly enough. It doesn't help that it just sounds intuitively true on that face of it that eating a lot of fat will make you fat.
I'm in the beginning of a ketogenic diet that I plan on sticking with for just a couple of weeks in order to cut a little (very little, actually. I'm just being vain.) belly fat. My calories are about 70% from fats.
Andouille, cream cheese, 10% fat Greek yogurt, coconut oil, avocados and a hefty portion of meat. If I lose a sixteenth of a pound of fat after I beef up my lipid metabolism Ill be fine because this 2 week diet is just delicious. It doesn't hurt that I've never had much of a sweet tooth.
A helpful thing to remember is that one of insulin's functions is to signal fat synthesis and storage. That doesn't mean you can't get your chubbs on if you overeat any kind of food, but it is significantly easier to do it with lots of simple carbohydrates.
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Yup, you guys might want to check MCT Oil out. I use MCT oil and ghee butter into my coffee drink.
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12-04-2012, 11:38
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The point raised about sugars vs fats is dead on.
Much (if not most) of the "LOW FAT" stuff is marketing hype and can be totally misleading.
An example I saw in a snack machine: They had the left partition labelled "HEALTHY", because they claimed these items were under 25% fat.
In the main portion of the machine they had four filled snack cakes as one item.
Then in the left (Healthy????????) section they had three of the same snack cakes, but had added sugar frosting on them. Now since they added a bunch of empty (and fat-free) calories, it changed the total-calory to fat-calory ratio to get these under the magic 25% mark. Yet they really were even unhealthier than the others.
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12-04-2012, 14:17
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Originally Posted by volsbear
I'm down 45 pounds in roughly 60 days. I eat less than 1,000 calories per day. Paleo all the way. Completely physician supevised. No more than 4-6 ounces of protein three times per day plus a serving of veggies. Very little fruit, sugar, carbs, etc. Basically, I stopped eating stuff that tastes good. I'm down 2-3 pant sizes. I just had to sell some pants and jackets and shirts on eBay. I just looked silly in them.
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Pretty much the same here but I use a soy based meal replacement after a 2 hour swim for breakfast, then about 3 oz of lean meat for lunch and dinner is something like a skinless chicken breast, salmon, pork loin, steak and about 2 cups of vegetable or a frozen Lean Cuisine type dinner for an even lower calorie count.
I have eliminated wheat/gluten and potatoes from my diet, I have type 2 diabetes and since I have started this diet I have been having problems with low blood sugar and am having to constantly monitor my blood sugar and keep reducing my meds, I am pretty close to stopping meds altogether.
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12-04-2012, 15:15
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Losing weight so quickly is not good for your body. Unless you can keep up those extreme diets for the rest of your life (which you can't), most of the weight will return the moment that you return to eating normally. That's why fad diet products like Slim Fast are worthless revolving doors... except for the manufacture who continues to make profits as consumers' weight balloons back and forth. Average healthy weight loss for adults is 1-2 lbs per week, and most adult men need about 2000 calories/day to maintain a healthy weight and promote muscle growth. Going about it the right way will greatly increase your chances of long-term success.
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12-04-2012, 15:55
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what helped me. eat 6 times per day. (SMALL MEALS at biggest...you'll see what i mean) keeps the metabolism going, and, as crazy as it sounds, start doing little everyday changes. park further away. take the steps instead of the elevator or escalator.
sounds dumb? dropped 92 pounds that way. soon as i reverted back to my old ways? boom. gained 30 of it back.
when i did this, i swear i was never hungry or tired. wasn't a life altering live at the gym, can't exist type of thing.
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12-04-2012, 17:05
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This book is worth checking out:
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12-04-2012, 17:36
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Originally Posted by scottydl
Losing weight so quickly is not good for your body. Unless you can keep up those extreme diets for the rest of your life (which you can't), most of the weight will return the moment that you return to eating normally. That's why fad diet products like Slim Fast are worthless revolving doors... except for the manufacture who continues to make profits as consumers' weight balloons back and forth. Average healthy weight loss for adults is 1-2 lbs per week, and most adult men need about 2000 calories/day to maintain a healthy weight and promote muscle growth. Going about it the right way will greatly increase your chances of long-term success.
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I'm trying to get a contract for a year in Afghanistan and have to meet new BMI standards, at your rate the war will be over before then.
My doc is following what I'm doing, she also did a free testosterone test and said I was low (as are most men my age) and that has an effect on metabolism and weight gain. So she is giving me the maximum recommended dosage shots every 2 weeks to rev up the metabolic rate and speed weight loss; wife likes the other effects too
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