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Old 09-13-2012, 10:22   #1
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Looking for a new 22lr what to buy?

I have decided to put up my mint model 57 winchester 22. It was my grandfathers, then my dads, now mine and after serving me for 20 years I am looking for something to replace it. Just want to keep it mint and make it more of a keepsake. I have seen a lot of good info on the 10/22 but am curious about the ar style 22lr's. I mainly use it for plinking and squirrel/rabbit. Would the ar styles be ok to hunt with or worth it to hunt with? I know my AR is awesome and super accurate but no friends have the 22lr versions so I have no way of trying one out. I would say my 22 use is 80% screwing around and 20% hunting.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:09   #2
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Several guys shoot steel challenge matches where I shoot with the s&w
Versions and do quite well.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:28   #3
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Try an after market 22 caliber bolt for your AR-
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:52   #4
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I would take a serious look at the Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22 in Realtree camo.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/71974

Mine is a good deal "greener" looking than the one on that website.

After years of buying guns and being somewhat disappointed with the quality of the last few I purchased, my M&P 15-22 has restored my faith in modern manufacturers.

My son and I took ours straight from the gunshop to the range. No pre-oiling, no cleaning....fresh out of the box.....and fired about 1000 rounds. No cleaning or oiling during that session.

We fired it from all sorts of positions with two different types of Federal ammo. Rapid fire, controlled fire, slow fire, etc.

We had one FTF that I chalk up to the ammo as the primer edge had a good dent in it. The thing ran like a champ.

The camo version comes with a 10 round mag that should be suitable for hunting pretty much anywhere. If you don't have capacity restrictions for hunting where you live, you can also get 25 round factory mags for less than 20 bucks a piece. The relatively low price of the extra factory mags was a factor in my decision.

All we did to ours was put a foregrip on the rails. It has a quad rail and flat top rail which would allow you to mount pretty much anything you want to it. It operates just like an AR 15 right down to the last shot bolt hold open.

Great gun. Might be just what you need.
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Old 09-13-2012, 13:04   #5
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I love my mp15-22. Extra mags are cheap, runs great with rem525 packs I use in all my other 22's.
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Old 09-13-2012, 16:08   #6
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Ruger makes a version of the 10/22 called the SR22, if what you are really looking for is a tactical style rifle.

There also are .22lr versions of the AR-15, such as Umarex.

If you want a more traditional rifle, I have the 10/22, and the Marlin 60. Both are excellent semi-auto rifles that won't break your bank.

I also have a Henry .22 lever gun. It is very accurate, has a real walnut stock, and fires 22 short, long and lr. It is actually becoming my favorite .22 rifle.
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Old 09-13-2012, 17:17   #7
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Look at the Marlin 795. Extremely accurate and only $140 or so. Not as much aftermarket support as a 10/22, but a darn great rifle, especially with some Tech-Sights.
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Old 09-13-2012, 17:55   #8
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I have a Stag Model 3 with the CMMG .22LR bolt conversion. It is reliable with MiniMags and the best groups I can get prone, with a non-magnified AimPoint Comp M2, is 4''.

It is not accurate at all as far as .22LR standards but it rocks with steel out to 50 yards. I don't even shoot it in .223 anymore.



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Old 09-13-2012, 18:01   #9
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if you are familiar/comfortable with an AR platform, the S&W MP is the way to go. Also consider Colt Umarex. I was not familiar with ANY tactical style rifle so I looked at all of them and picked the one that felt best to me, the Sig Sauer 522. More metal than all the other .22lr tactical type rifles, super simple to break down and clean up, so far runs like a sewing machine for me with about 1500 rounds thru.
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Old 09-13-2012, 18:30   #10
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If you want the best accuracy & one of the better dedicated AR15 22lr's on the market, take a look at the S&W M&P 15-22 Performance Center. It has a tighter chamber than the standard 15-22, giving the PC version more inherent accuracy. The trade off is that CCI-Stingers are a no-go.

Now if you decide not to go with an AR15 .22lr, check out the Ruger 22 Charger. It's the pistol form of the 10/22. Since it's based on the 10/22 platform, there is an amazing amount of after-market support. You can tune the trigger with aftermarket parts...install a scope of your choice...
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Old 09-13-2012, 18:34   #11
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Also consider Colt Umarex.
I politely disagree. Stay away from the Umarex Colt M4 & Umarex HK416. I'm a former Umarex Colt owner. It was the biggest pile of stink ever.

OP, if you want details and pictures of why, let me know. I think there is an old thread here on GT that has it. If not, I'll PM you a link to a post on a different forum where I have a write up.
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Old 09-13-2012, 19:04   #12
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Ruger SR22. Any Ruger 10/22 is a worthy choice.
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Old 09-13-2012, 22:31   #13
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My AR is the 2012 model s&w moe edition. It has been absolutely flawless and eaten every grain ammo i have thrown at it. I would probably lean towards the s&w 15/22 for a AR style. The 10/22 seems to be a good choice for a 22 long rifle it sounds like. I guess what would be the accuracy difference between a AR style vs rifle my 60+ y/o model 57 is spot on at 75 yards. The newer AR styles that accurate?
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:14   #14
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My AR is the 2012 model s&w moe edition. It has been absolutely flawless and eaten every grain ammo i have thrown at it. I would probably lean towards the s&w 15/22 for a AR style. The 10/22 seems to be a good choice for a 22 long rifle it sounds like. I guess what would be the accuracy difference between a AR style vs rifle my 60+ y/o model 57 is spot on at 75 yards. The newer AR styles that accurate?
I find that the S&W M&P 15-22 is very accurate with Federal Champion and Automatch. I haven't bench rested it but in my session the other day, I had no problems punching out the center of a target at 50 yards. That was with the peep sights. With optics, I would imagine the groups are quite tight with the right ammo.

I own a 10/22 as well and, while mine is tricked out, when it was factory, it was accurate as well.

I also have a Charger that was bought just a few years ago. My 10/22 was purchased several years ago. I could see a distinct decline in fit and finish between the two.

I'd opt for the Smith. It's that good of a rifle. If you are concerned with accuracy, go with the PC version and just stay away from Stinger ammo. The chambers are cut different......I would imagine similar to a Bentz chamber like my 10/22 aftermarket bull barrel has.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:56   #15
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I was doing some shooting with some buddies, and one of them pulled out a new Smith&W. M&P15 .22 MOE, we shot all day with this rifle for pennies! We all know what higher caliber ammo costs these days. I fell in love with this awesome AR style gun and so did 3 of my other buddies, so like 2 days later we all put one in layaway! My wallet loves it too (and my wife) picked up packs of 50 rounds of Federal .22 LR for $1.88 at Walmart! Bought like 20 packs! My friends and I are gonna start a "Top shot" style .22 challenge every few weeks just because these are such fun and cheap to shoot! If you do buy this rifle, spend the extra cash on the MOE version,(about an extra $100) AWESOME Magpul extras- flip sights, grip, better buttstock ect... to add these later individually will cost way more, and they just make the gun more BADASS-lol! Also don't forget you can order it in the Dark Earth(Tan)color scheme too! Out of all my guns its now a favorite! And by the way this did get "Rifle of the year" last year. It just performs flawlessly. Have fun bro! D.
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Old 09-15-2012, 20:59   #16
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An Ar-15 22 LR upper is a fine idea. So is the S&W 22 AR.

I opted for a Sig 522, mainly because I wanted a heavier feel. However, the end result is the same. It's a great round for practicing fundamentals.
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Old 09-16-2012, 17:31   #17
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Have several different 22's but the Henry Lever action i bought a couple of months ago has become my favorite. Very accurate. My old favorite, the 10/22 is lonely in the safe now.
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Old 09-16-2012, 19:17   #18
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Hard to beat the Ruger 10/22 with all its options and after-market add ons.
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Just bought a 100 year old Remington M12A pump at the gun show yesterday for $200. Shot 100 rounds of 5 different manufactured .22LR with no problems at all. Great wood, smooth action. Very excited.
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Old 10-05-2012, 19:21   #21
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i recently bought a Ruger 10/22 and its been an awsome plicker. have it sighted in at 100 yards. will all the aftermaket suppot im looking into a bull barrel and thumbhole stock.
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I bought a 15-22 on Wednesday. Went to the range today and fired about 500 rounds of CCI minimag. Not one fail to fire or any other issue. Did have to zero the sights but that is no biggie. Out to 50 yards very accurate with the iron sights. It does feel very plastic and the butt's longest extension would probably not be enough for a tall person, I am 5'9" and would not have minded a little longer length. But it is fun to shoot. The magazine design makes reloading the 25 rounds very easy. I bought so I could shoot more without breaking the bank and it fulfills that admirably. I was thinking about the Ruger 522 but the reviews I read indicated it was well built but much pickier on ammo than the S&W. Just Google Ruger 522 Review and S&W 15-22 review.

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Old 10-14-2012, 17:16   #23
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Recently picked up the H&K 416D 22LR. Ran 100 rounds smoothly through it today and was very accurate with stock sight at 50 yards. It was a great deal of fun to shoot and I see shooting this a lot due to the "fun factor" and low cost of ammo. I wanted a rifle that I can share with friends when visiting that would be easy to handle and exciting to shoot.

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The .22 caliber HK 416 is loaded with authentic features. From its appearance, feel, and operation, right down to the sling swivel incorporated into the stock, the 416 D145RS is a replica in every sense.

Like all the .22LR H&Ks offered by Umarex, the 416 is a dedicated .22 rimfire rifle. It is engineered and built in Germany by Carl Walther with a match grade precision barrel, upper and lower metal receivers, a retractable stock, and a machined rail interface system. The 416’s pistol grip and buttstock are authentic in that they include storage compartments for small tools or batteries.

The magazines for the .22 caliber 416 are made of high-strength polymer and are designed to make loading simple and efficient. They’re available in either a 20- or 10-round version. The estimated retail price for the 416 rifle is $559.
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The .22 caliber HK 416 D145RS operates on a blowback system. The dust cover functions and the bolt holds open when the magazine empties. Its sights are on-rail and the rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. Its safety selector rotates 90 degrees from ‘On Safe’ to ‘Fire’. Take down for basic cleaning is simple—there are no loose parts. Just remove the rear receiver pin and pivot the upper receiver to open.
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I have decided to put up my mint model 57 winchester 22. It was my grandfathers, then my dads, now mine and after serving me for 20 years I am looking for something to replace it. Just want to keep it mint and make it more of a keepsake. I have seen a lot of good info on the 10/22 but am curious about the ar style 22lr's. I mainly use it for plinking and squirrel/rabbit. Would the ar styles be ok to hunt with or worth it to hunt with? I know my AR is awesome and super accurate but no friends have the 22lr versions so I have no way of trying one out. I would say my 22 use is 80% screwing around and 20% hunting.
Get a dedicated .22lr upper for your AR.

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Have several different 22's but the Henry Lever action i bought a couple of months ago has become my favorite. Very accurate. My old favorite, the 10/22 is lonely in the safe now.
Wow, same thing happened to me. Cant exactly say why, but my 10/22 is now pretty lonely, too. I can't recommend the Henry highly enough. It is my favorite.
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