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Old 02-16-2015, 10:30   #1
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If You Changed from something else to the Glock

For instance, for a long time I shot the 1911 and then I switched to the Glock. The biggest thing I had to learn was that I could do quite well, if I practiced a bit, with the factory trigger. I also had to learn I could not always use the pad of my finger which is normally expected.
What did you have learn on a switch to the Glock?
Where there any normally accepted principles which you had to modify to continue to shoot well?
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:31   #2
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I've tried many other handgun platforms, buying them and using them for months at a time, but I've always kept coming back to the Glock.

I think many folks go through the same learning process, and come to the conclusion that it's probably not so much about the arrow, but more about the Indian. Or, put another way, you can't fix a software problem with different hardware.

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Old 02-16-2015, 10:41   #3
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No more than you have to learn with any other different pistol. All have their special idiosyncrasy. I tried several different pistols before Glock. Beretta, Smith, Browning, HK, etc. All were different. I now have Glocks and 1911's.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:47   #4
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I was pretty voiceable in the beginning concerning the switch...a nervousness, even, but my concern was learning to put the muzzle of a Glock on target from a draw with no sight reference. It's been roughly two months, now, and is a concern of the past, but I did practice quite a bit. Now, if I draw and point a 1911, I'm going to hit a bag guy in his/her junk.

ETA - I still draw an empty Glock almost every evening for a few minutes, just to be on the safe side, so there is no 1911 grip angle relapse.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:01   #5
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No more than you have to learn with any other different pistol.
I personally agree. Triggers, controls, etc; it will come quickly if you already have a niche for shooting pistols. I hear a lot about how much greater the 1911 trigger is over a Glock, but my opinion is once you get the grit out of a Glock trigger, it feels pretty darn good, especially the G34 and the 41, and I'm talking about out of the box. It is very predictable without being too sensitive.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:45   #6
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I shot Sigs up until about 3 or so years ago. I just could not get used to that DA/SA trigger on Sigs and that long and heavy first shot really bothered me. Then I tried a Glock. I instantly fell in love with the trigger. I love the amount of travel, and the break. It just appeals to me. My shooting instantly improved when switching to the Glock platform. YMMV.
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Old 02-16-2015, 13:28   #7
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I went back and forth between M&P's and Glock's. I still do.
I've owned 2 M&P9's, and 2 G17's. And M&P40 and G22
I currently own M&P9, M&P45, and Gen4 G20.


I have them for a reason tho.
M&P9 - CCW
M&P45- Bedside with TLR1/Zombie Apocalypse
G20- Hiking/Camp

Thinking about trading M&P9 for G23. I reload both 45 and 10mm. But not 9mm.
Since I can reload 40SW with my 10mm reloading stuff, makes more economical sense to shoot G22(or M&P40 - I'll get which ever cheaper. I had both platform long enough, that I can shoot both equally well
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Old 02-16-2015, 14:02   #8
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I didn't change "from" everything else "to" Glock.

I simply added Glock to my list of makes/models I used as an instructor, owned as an individual and was certified to maintain, support & repair as an armorer.

Adding the plastic-framed Glock pistol, with its somewhat unique grip angle & girth, and spongy trigger feel, did once again reaffirm, to me, that someone well versed and practiced with revolvers and 1911's can often pick up and apply their existing skills to many other handguns. Before Glock, I'd also made this observation when having to adapt to TDA pistols (meaning pistols with DA/SA trigger modes).

So, nowadays I have plastic pistols chambered in .380, 9, .40 & .45 ACP, from S&W (M&P's), S&W/Walther (SW99's), Glock and Ruger (LCP). I've been trained as an armorer on all of them except the Ruger. (I was once trained as an armorer for the Sigma, but I've never owned one.)

I like the simplicity of the Glock from an armorer's perspective ...

The grip and ergonomics of the M&P from a shooter's perspective ...

The trigger function and feel of the 99 series (in AS mode) ...

And all of them have demonstrated themselves to be reliable and accurate in my hands.

FWIW, I've also tried various HK, XD, SIG & other Ruger plastic pistols, but I've not attended armorer training for any of them, and I've just never wanted to spend my own money on any of them, but that's all it means.

As has already been mentioned, it's just hardware.
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Old 02-16-2015, 15:27   #9
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I hear a lot about how much greater the 1911 trigger is over a Glock
It's my opinion what you hear is very true. While I very much like the Glock trigger I do have a trigger that I feel is second to none - that's the trigger on my SA 1911. Minimal creep, moderately light and it breaks like the proverbial glass rod. Triggers are indeed subjective.
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Old 02-16-2015, 15:58   #10
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It's my opinion what you hear is very true. While I very much like the Glock trigger I do have a trigger that I feel is second to none - that's the trigger on my SA 1911. Minimal creep, moderately light and it breaks like the proverbial glass rod. Triggers are indeed subjective.
No doubt nothing beats a 1911 trigger, especially when it is perfectly tuned. I'm merely saying the Glock trigger isn't the suck monster some people say it is. I'll leave that to the M&P.
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No doubt nothing beats a 1911 trigger, especially when it is perfectly tuned. I'm merely saying the Glock trigger isn't the suck monster some people say it is. I'll leave that to the M&P.
True that!!
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Old 02-16-2015, 21:05   #12
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For instance, for a long time I shot the 1911 and then I switched to the Glock. The biggest thing I had to learn was that I could do quite well, if I practiced a bit, with the factory trigger. I also had to learn I could not always use the pad of my finger which is normally expected.
What did you have learn on a switch to the Glock?
Where there any normally accepted principles which you had to modify to continue to shoot well?
The Sights, any Metal High Visibilty Sight from Trijicon, Ameriglo or Meprolight. the Slide Stop Lever and Magazine Release to name a few. Keep it clean and you've got plenty of Ammo?
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:06   #13
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I came to Glock after suffering with the agency issue Beretta centurion. I saw how the Glocks ran in my Gunsite courses and have been a believer ever since...

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Old 02-17-2015, 03:49   #14
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I feel the Glock trigger is something I had to get used to. It was a bit spongy and then you hit the wall then, BOOM. The reset was another thing I needed to get used to and that was to my advantage. I set up a couple of my Glock triggers to have a short reset for faster follow up shots.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:27   #15
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I personally agree. Triggers, controls, etc; it will come quickly if you already have a niche for shooting pistols. I hear a lot about how much greater the 1911 trigger is over a Glock, but my opinion is once you get the grit out of a Glock trigger, it feels pretty darn good, especially the G34 and the 41, and I'm talking about out of the box. It is very predictable without being too sensitive.

The 1911 is built by many, many manufacturers. There is no standard 1911 trigger.

In general, yes, it's far superior to. Glock's trigger, in my opinion. Not much comparison there...
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:48   #16
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I had to learn Glocks didn't have cylinders or double action triggers like I was use to. Other than that it was just another pistol and the basics never changed.
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:05   #17
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I didn't change "from" everything else "to" Glock.

I simply added Glock to my list of makes/models I use......
This. I switch up my guns quite a bit throughout the shooting season, to include 1911/2011 style, striker fired, and DA/SA models.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:45   #18
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Sure I practice - draw - point and shoot -

Most of the time 3 yards or less from the target.

More with an unloaded gun in my home than at the range.

I will guess - most SD situations that are going to require me to use my gun would be very much up close and personal.

A couple feet - maybe between 0 and 5 feet.


Does anyone think it will matter all that much if I have a Glock or an M&P or a PM9 or a 1911 or SIG or H&K or CZ or HiPoint?

As long as I know how to quickly get the gun out and in service (take safety off 1911) and the gun goes bang bang bang.

Does anyone really believe that the trigger pull or type of sights or pinkie extension or grip angle or brand of SD ammo or even the caliber - as long as it is a 9MM or more -

Will even matter all that much?


Maybe I am kidding myself - but I doubt I will be required to make 25 yard head shots on the run.

I am not saying don't worry about the details - but don't worry about the details -

Just practice with what you plan to carry enough so you do it automatically.

I have pretty much stuck with guns like Glock, M&P and PM9 that have no safety - you pull them out point them at the target and pull the trigger.

I am confident that I can hit a target the size of a man - from 3 feet away - and which of my CC guns I happen to have at the moment will not matter - at all.

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Old 02-17-2015, 08:55   #19
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When I first switched to Glock, I was either carrying a Beretta 92FS or a Sig P226 for a duty gun, but I decided Glock was the better gun. I actually got the P226 in trade from another officer who decided to dump it and go with a Glock. We bought our own guns, so it was 100% performance-based, not price, since switching guns was a big personal expense (new holsters, magazines, magazine pouches, etc.).
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:23   #20
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The Glock needs a little better trigger technique to shoot accurately than a 1911. The magazines need to be checked and cleaned more frequently if you want them to drop free during a reload. Stock sights on Glocks need to be changed. Glocks need to be cleaned less than 1911s.
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