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Old 10-10-2012, 14:18   #176
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How so?

Just because a person is a cop doesn't make them a walking law book. I've met my fair share of LEOs that have a very thin knowledge of laws basically enough to get the job done. I had LEOs in North Carolina when I was stationed there straight tell me that it's illegal to OC anywhere in the state

As for the Texas ID law I quoted actual Texas law straight from the Penal Code and no where did it say I had to provide an ID card It simply stated I had to provide the info of Name, DOB, and Address to an officer didn't say I had to provide a card to do so.
I never commented on Texas ID law . Nor did I ever state cops are "walking law books." However, open carry is a simple concept and I don't know any cops that don't understand the laws that pertain to it in their jurisdictions. Hell, even in the few legitimate "poh leese behaving badly" youtube videos, the issue is almost never that the officer doesn't know whether or not OC is illegal but rather doesn't articulate reasonable suspicion for the stop very well. Furthermore, even in those videos in which the cop screws something up, the activist is almost always wrong about some part of the law. I stand by my statement that the average cop almost guaranteed knows better than the "activist" whether OC is legal or illegal.
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Old 10-10-2012, 14:46   #177
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I brought it up because I was trying to figure out the 2 times you are referencing in this thread where I had no idea what I was talking about. That's the only other thing I Could think of in this thread.
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Old 10-10-2012, 15:29   #178
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OC Idiot/Street Lawyer: "Under ORS 166.xxx it's illegal for me to possess it and handle it..."

Officer: "No it's not."


Gentlemen, school is in session.


I'll admit, I looked further at his videos (no idea why, maybe because I'm curious as to what my fellow Oregonians are up to), but his interaction with Bend PD was even better.

You thought the OP's video was professional, Bend PD's performances was spectacular, and the officer even suggested that he consider "the other ramifications of [his] actions." Really well done.
There is a GT member who also posts to an Oregon OC site where some of the dooshiest OCers post -- meaning the snotty ones who seek out confrontations with cops so they and put them up on youtube.

The GT poster gets very heated with these kids because they are giving the OC people in particular and gun people in general a bad name.

They are too stupid to understand that they are hurting others.
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Old 10-10-2012, 15:33   #179
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There is a GT member who also posts to an Oregon OC site where some of the dooshiest OCers post -- meaning the snotty ones who seek out confrontations with cops so they and put them up on youtube.

The GT poster gets very heated with these kids because they are giving the OC people in particular and gun people in general a bad name.

They are too stupid to understand that they are hurting others.
Invite them to Ohio for me! Downtown Columbus would be a nice place to start.
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Old 10-10-2012, 15:33   #180
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With the number of staged OC confrontations in the last year, it makes me wonder how long until they round a corner and surprise the wrong citizen(s), or they get rolled by some thugs, and get killed.

Remember the two idiots running around on the street corner with a replica RPG. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1dd_1...642&comments=1

Really, what's the difference between the two.
I'd say only the degree of jackassery.
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Old 10-10-2012, 15:34   #181
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They would be playing the world series of stupid games.
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Old 10-10-2012, 15:40   #182
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Invite them to Ohio for me! Downtown Columbus would be a nice place to start.
Now that would make for some good youtube viewing!


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Old 10-10-2012, 15:43   #183
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They would be playing the world series of stupid games.
Thee Great State of Ohio does not play mamby pamby games!!!
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They would be playing the world series of stupid games.
No no no no. You mean the Stoopidbowl! How much are good tickets?
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Thee Great State of Ohio does not play mamby pamby games!!!
Is OC carry legal there?
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No no no no. You mean the Stoopidbowl! How much are good tickets?
With youtube, all seats are both good and free... after the appeals process is over.

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Is OC carry legal there?
Absolutely, I OC every deer season!

The moment an Officer responds to a complaint, they are conducting an investigation to determine if the complaint is valid, and thus may identify the offender. Ohio Copper also posted the ORC for disorderly conduct in a previous post, so whether there was someone annoyed, harassed, or alarmed by their actions, an Officer could be investigating reasonable articulable suspicion.

Playing the games they do will earn an arrest for obstructing official business. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2921.31
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Old 10-10-2012, 15:45   #187
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Is OC carry legal there?
It is not unlawful.


Act like a jack hole and carry around a rifle in a parking lot and the out come will be less than desired. Reference my earlier post.


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Old 10-10-2012, 16:00   #188
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It is not unlawful.


Act like a jack hole and carry around a rifle in a parking lot and the out come will be less than desired. Reference my earlier post.
What about doing the same, and NOT acting like a tool? (HA! Like one of these OC youtube attention whores is going to do that!)

Seriously. Is it the snotty attitudes that make the difference to you with regard to an open carrier?
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What about doing the same, and NOT acting like a tool? (HA! Like one of these OC youtube attention whores is going to do that!)

Seriously. Is it the snotty attitudes that make the difference to you with regard to an open carrier?
Absolutely not. I don't care one iota about open carry.

What lawful and responsible reason does one have to walk around a shopping center parking lot or street corner with a rifle slung at the low ready?


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Old 10-10-2012, 16:18   #190
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Absolutely not. I don't care one iota about open carry.

What lawful and responsible reason does one have to walk around a shopping center parking lot or street corner with a rifle slung at the low ready?
That is a good question. A cop should investigate it.

See you on some moron's youtube video!


I suppose if someone were carrying $4000 worth of gold to a buyer, having a Mini-14 at the ready would make sense. What say you?
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That is a good question. A cop should investigate it.

See you on some moron's youtube video!


I suppose if someone were carrying $4000 worth of gold to a buyer, having a Mini-14 at the ready would make sense. What say you?
So would a concealed 1911 with a few extra magazines.

Why draw attention to yourself?
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Old 10-10-2012, 16:31   #192
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Absolutely not. I don't care one iota about open carry.

What lawful and responsible reason does one have to walk around a shopping center parking lot or street corner with a rifle slung at the low ready?


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Because they feel like it (assuming it's not some "political display"). The mere existence of a rifle in public view does not mean something bad is going to happen.
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Old 10-10-2012, 16:38   #193
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The mere existence of a rifle in public view does not mean something bad is going to happen.
True that but you can be confident that in many areas of the USA the po-lis will be called because of the fear something bad MIGHT be about to happen.

Where I live I frequently see a man, middle age, walking along with a 6-gun strapped to his right hip. No worries. He is on a side road. I have no idea what happens if he begins to walk down the main road and into the tourist area, but I would not be surprised if the po-lis have been called.
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I suppose if someone were carrying $4000 worth of gold to a buyer, having a Mini-14 at the ready would make sense. What say you?
I couldn't care less about either, and second what Ohio Copper said. Not sure where he works, but my county is about 50/50 rural and urban, so I see routinely see hunters, and farmers OC. Every once in a while we get a call about a civil war reinactor walking down the road with his Springfield, a Deputy responds and says hi, because we all know him now, and leave.

Would I stop and talk to him without being dispatched to talk to him, no. If it was someone I didn't know, and was in one of the more populated areas, I may very well stop because it would not be normal for the area.
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Because they feel like it (assuming it's not some "political display"). The mere existence of a rifle in public view does not mean something bad is going to happen.
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Because they feel like it (assuming it's not some "political display"). The mere existence of a rifle in public view does not mean something bad is going to happen.
The mere prescence of a naked man and woman in bed doesn't mean something is going to happen either. But, it is likely. The officers do have the right to stop and engage in a consenual encounter. He did. He could have even conducted a Terry stop on that. He chose another route. Or, he could have ingored the situation, and then feel terrible later if they were out to thrill kill and record their exploits.
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The mere prescence of a naked man and woman in bed doesn't mean something is going to happen either. But, it is likely. The officers do have the right to stop and engage in a consenual encounter. He did. He could have even conducted a Terry stop on that. He chose another route. Or, he could have ingored the situation, and then feel terrible later if they were out to thrill kill and record their exploits.
And then he'd be calling for the officers head.

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Because they feel like it (assuming it's not some "political display"). The mere existence of a rifle in public view does not mean something bad is going to happen.
What lawful and reasonable and rational reason does one have to do that for?


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I brought it up because I was trying to figure out the 2 times you are referencing in this thread where I had no idea what I was talking about. That's the only other thing I Could think of in this thread.
Improper use of the word "accosted" because it suited your bias.
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