Name that car, part II - Page 2

Lee-online · 10-04-2012, 21:17

There have been hundreds and hundreds of British car company's. Most of the common makes people would know, but there are some really obscure ones out there.

***Bill Powell*** · 10-04-2012, 21:28

I'm so old I remember when sand was still a rock.

GlockinNJ · 10-05-2012, 07:29

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looks too inelegant to be Ferrari.

OK, I was wrong. But, it's ugly for a Ferrari. And that color - yech.

JMS · 10-05-2012, 08:16

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the badge on the nose was enough to identify it. no one else builds a rectangular, yellow badge with business card proportions.

True, the wheels also gave it away. It looked more like a 360 mashup than anything else. Woof.

If you look carefully you can also the the Pininfarina badge on the side.

DanaT · 10-05-2012, 09:27

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the badge on the nose was enough to identify it. no one else builds a rectangular, yellow badge with business card proportions.

So Bill, you may be the one person who knows obscure enough car history (this is a compliment) to shed some light on a debate.

It is claimed that Ferarri stole the "prancing horse" for Stuttgart (Porsche). It is claimed that the during the war, there was a german plane shot down and the pilot somehow had a flag/emblem from Stuttgart

Stuttgart had used the Prancing horse long before Ferrari was even thought about.

It is rumored that Ferrari used the horse intended to be an insult towards the german auto manufacturers in Stuttgart and that they had downed a plane.

Not sure how true any of this is..but is amazing that Ferrari uses a symbol so close to Stuttgart's symbol. Even more amazing is Stuttgart roughly translates to "stallion stables" and scuderia is roughly translate to "stables"

Sort of interesting??

JMS · 10-05-2012, 09:41

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So Bill, you may be the one person who knows obscure enough car history (this is a compliment) to shed some light on a debate.

It is claimed that Ferarri stole the "prancing horse" for Stuttgart (Porsche). It is claimed that the during the war, there was a german plane shot down and the pilot somehow had a flag/emblem from Stuttgart

Stuttgart had used the Prancing horse long before Ferrari was even thought about.

It is rumored that Ferrari used the horse intended to be an insult towards the german auto manufacturers in Stuttgart and that they had downed a plane.

Not sure how true any of this is..but is amazing that Ferrari uses a symbol so close to Stuttgart's symbol. Even more amazing is Stuttgart roughly translates to "stallion stables" and scuderia is roughly translate to "stables"

Sort of interesting??

This was the story I always heard http://www.fastcodesign.com/1665054/...rse-logo-video

***Bill Powell*** · 10-05-2012, 11:02

I've fortunate through working with cars to meet some very interesting people. I've heard both versions of the story and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Phil Hill told me this version, the fighter pilot version. For many years Scuderia Ferrari's job was to make Alfa Romeos go fast. Almost adozen years after he was given permission he put it on his cars for the 24 hr Spa (I believe.) That was twenty years before Porsche existed as a car company

Porsche was supposed to have taken the horse from the Stuttgart cety emblem. I don't think anyone stole anything from anyone.

DanaT · 10-05-2012, 11:13

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Porsche was supposed to have taken the horse from the Stuttgart cety emblem. I don't think anyone stole anything from anyone.

It is very clear they did that.

Look at the Flag from the state of Wuerrtemberg

The Porsche logo is simply the coat of arms used on that flag with the coat of arms from stuttgart in the middle of it.

***Bill Powell*** · 10-05-2012, 11:45

If anyone did it was Porsche. Ferrari was using the horse twenty years before Porsche existed.

Why couldn't couldn't it be coincidence?

If there was any thievery done it was done it was done by the fighter pilot's family. I've never heard of any kind of fued over it.

DanaT · 10-05-2012, 11:53

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If anyone did it was Porsche. Ferrari was using the horse twenty years before Porsche existed.

Why couldn't couldn't it be coincidence?

If there was any thievery done it was done it was done by the fighter pilot's family. I've never heard of any kind of fued over it.

Porsches is very clear. The coat of arms from stuttgart on top of that from wuerttemberg.

I heard at Porsche they claim Ferrari stole the prancing horse from stuttgart ( not Porsche). So there is some level of fued.

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***Bill Powell*** · 10-05-2012, 12:16

If that's true Porsche had no more right to the horse than Ferrari. Porsche was born in the Czech Republic.

DanaT · 10-05-2012, 12:22

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If that's true Porsche had no more right to the horse than Ferrari. Porsche was born in the Czech Republic.

Neither one has more or less right...it's just interesting that Ferrari needs to use the coat of arms from Stuttgart.

You don't want to start about czech /Poland/germany. It's like sued-Tirol / Italy question today. Many think that much of northern europe is prussian....last time that ended badly

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***Bill Powell*** · 10-05-2012, 13:02

I don't really care. I was just making conversation. It's kind of like arguing over the origin of the swastika. There's a hundred different answers and they're all right.

tarpleyg · 10-05-2012, 13:17

This one is probably an easy one but I don't know what it is. I snapped a pic of it a couple of months ago in Greenwich. Almost looks some kind of kit car. Ugly little thing.

***Rabbi*** · 10-05-2012, 13:37

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This one is probably an easy one but I don't know what it is. I snapped a pic of it a couple of months ago in Greenwich. Almost looks some kind of kit car. Ugly little thing.

Smart car roadster.

MadMonkey · 10-05-2012, 13:40

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Smart car roadster.

I was just about to post that I didn't know what it was, but I liked it a lot, especially the TVR-esque headlights.

Now I have to go kill myself.

Hauptmann6 · 10-05-2012, 13:43

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How about this car. It was built in a town I grew up in.

Jag XJ220

X-ray 4N6 · 10-05-2012, 14:27

OK I'll play. If you get these Rabbi then you da man:

GlockinNJ · 10-05-2012, 15:04

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OK I'll play. If you get these Rabbi then you da man:

Bugatti?

tarpleyg · 10-05-2012, 15:43

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Bugatti?

I think so too.

***Bill Powell*** · 10-05-2012, 16:00

bugatti atlantique, swedish military car based on a sedan body called a suggan, and that last one could be a humber snipe.

Cinic · 10-05-2012, 16:05

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Little remembered fact, in 93, they actually put on a racing series with that car (in the US) called "Fast Masters"

That was....uuummm....really something. An insane something.

I had a very minor part in that debacle. (as minor as it comes) as in, "clean this/fetch that...."

I remember watching that on ESPN (or similar) and cringing when they would bang them into each other.