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Old 10-03-2012, 21:12   #376
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Watching Hannity at the moment -- Pollster Frank Luntz is talking to a group of suburban Denver-ites. Of those that were undecided before the debate, about half of them have now decided to vote for Romney.


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Old 10-03-2012, 21:18   #377
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Ooookay...But the questions Luntz asked were:

1) How many of you were undecided on who to vote for before the debate?

and

2) Of those who were undecided, how many are now going to vote for Romney after this debate?

It's kind of hard to cook the results from those two questions.


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Old 10-03-2012, 21:20   #378
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Both CNN and FoxNews have a common observation - Obama looked annoyed tonight. He looked annoyed at having to be on the stage tonight.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:20   #379
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Ooookay...But the questions Luntz asked were:

1) How many of you were undecided on who to vote for before the debate?

and

2) Of those who were undecided, how many are now going to vote for Romney after this debate?

It's kind of hard to cook the results from those two questions.


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He also got to pick the audience. And it is on fox news, if he was getting paid by MSNBC, I'll bet the results would be different.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:21   #380
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Can't wait to see the "polls" after this slaughtering.


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Old 10-03-2012, 21:23   #381
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He also got to pick the audience. And it is on fox news, if he was getting paid by MSNBC, I'll bet the results would be different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...My wife is a die-hard conservative and has been trying to get on one of Luntz's focus groups for a year.

I certainly see a lot of conflicting opinions on his focus groups, and am routinely upset by how often the people don't agree with me.

I'll accept the integrity of his presentation until it's proven otherwise.


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He also got to pick the audience. And it is on fox news, if he was getting paid by MSNBC, I'll bet the results would be different.
CNN flash poll - 67% Romney 25% Obama
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CNN flash poll - 67% Romney 25% Obama

I've been telling you, Obama is going down in flames come November.
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Old 10-03-2012, 21:26   #384
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CNN flash poll - 67% Romney 25% Obama
Usually these debates have swings. I remember last time around everyone was sure than McCain had won a debate and then in the next debate Obama won.

Obama didn't look forceful tonight. He might should work on that for his sake!
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CNN flash poll - 67% Romney 25% Obama
Yeah, but CNN is a right wing shill...

Wait -- what?


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Old 10-03-2012, 21:26   #386
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Just my hunch after several elections of experience, but I think the big effect will be in the "I was going to vote Obama, but now I'll just tell people that and stay home instead" group
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Usually these debates have swings. I remember last time around everyone was sure than McCain had won a debate and then in the next debate Obama won.

Obama didn't look forceful tonight. He might should work on that for his sake!
You really are an Obama supporter in disguise, aren't you?
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You really are an Obama supporter in disguise, aren't you?
No...he's a passionate (probably young...relative to me) independent. I respect that, but he's kidding himself if he thinks this election will be the time for an independent candidate. And he's kidding himself if he thinks that casting his vote for anyone other than Romney will not be a help for Obama.
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David Nimrod...pissed, rude, and now saying 'these polls don't mean anything'. Funny, he was previously citing polls, now they are meaningless.
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You really are an Obama supporter in disguise, aren't you?
Nope.. Have no desire to vote for someone who wants to limit other people's constitutional rights to where other people's "feelings" begin.
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Axelrod is on with Candy and is so pissed he refuses to answer her questions and just insists on giving his planned spin.... Candy keeps coming back to the debate tonight and axelrod keeps talking about how much time Romney has spent practicing for the debate.

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Holy crap. I just finished. Obama was absolutely schooled. If the other two can look like this, Romney can win.
Two things: the economy is Zero's weak spot and he came into this believing his own advisor's hype about his polling lead. He'll probably be more aggressive next time, though he'll have to cut back his partying with celebrities enough to overcome his almost complete lack of experience in receiving criticism/tough questions.
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Axelrod is on with Candy and is so pissed he refuses to answer her questions and just insists on giving his planned spin.... Candy keeps coming back to the debate tonight and axelrod keeps talking about how much time Romney has spent practicing for the debate.

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Kerry won his first debate vs Bush 04...will be real important for Romney to keep up the momentum...
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Nope.. Have no desire to vote for someone who wants to limit other people's constitutional rights to where other people's "feelings" begin.
Better edited version than the previous version.
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Kerry won his first debate vs Bush 04...will be real important for Romney to keep up the momentum...
Very important point. The Obama machine of MSM and supporters will increase the attacks like you've never seen before. Romney cannot drop the ball. He has got to keep the drive alive.
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One other comment...Reagan was behind and turned it around with the first debate and going forward.
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Very important point. The Obama machine of MSM and supporters will increase the attacks like you've never seen before. Romney cannot drop the ball. He has got to keep the drive alive.
Will be important to go back and look at exactly what Romney said about his policies...
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Okay -- a couple of you induced me to switch to MSNBC to catch their spin.

It says MSNBC on the banner at the top of the screen, but I swear I'm getting The Comedy Channel...


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Very important point. The Obama machine of MSM and supporters will increase the attacks like you've never seen before. Romney cannot drop the ball. He has got to keep the drive alive.

Absolutely!


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