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Old 11-11-2012, 13:02   #61
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" But, but, but, didn't the Founders use the term "Militia" to describe a group of guys who got together to go deer hunting each fall???"






Funny the Founders protected the peole from opression by the weapons of their day, some people think we should still use those weapons to protect ourselves from oppression by the weapons of today.


The Founders didn't need an internet, TV or radio, what do they have to do with freedom of speech today?

They should be censored because the Founders were talking about the communication tools of their day.
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Old 11-11-2012, 13:03   #62
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This represents why Conservative thought is a dangerous thing in a nation based on freedom.

This sign is akin to the Star of David used in the late 1930s to mark and set apart the Jews in Europe. Because Conservatives are by in large authoritarians, this tendency to separate those who don't agree with their extremism must be called out for what it is; un-American.
Your View is backas*wards. Democrats lean towards bigger government. Conservatives, smaller government. What's more authoritarian? Democrats=gun control, rebublicans=less gun control.......

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Old 11-11-2012, 14:38   #63
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Your View is backas*wards. Democrats lean towards bigger government. Conservatives, smaller government. What's more authoritarian? Democrats=gun control, rebublicans=less gun control.......

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Dude, please! The idea of small government Conservatism is an absolute joke. Conservatives LOVE making decisions for what people do in their private lives like a house on fire. In each and every case, you guys go straight for a government solution to enforce restrictions on freedoms. Small government conservative? Iíve never seen one!

You people love to dictate (a reflexive response for all good authoritarian types) birth control using the governments hand. You people want to determine who can merry whom using the governmentís hand. Letís not forget the conservative support of forcing women to undergo unnecessary exams. Of course, there are issues like attacking the wrong country (Iraq), attempts force all kinds of restrictions on freedoms by way of updates to the constitution (more big government). Luckily, many such attempts failed. Point is that you people attempted many actions to restrict freedom using big government solutions.

Don't give me that tired old talking point about small government Conservatism, because that dog donít hunt!
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Old 11-11-2012, 15:06   #64
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Your View is backas*wards. Democrats lean towards bigger government. Conservatives, smaller government. What's more authoritarian? Democrats=gun control, rebublicans=less gun control.......

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There has not been a shrink of government in my lifetime. I've seen 3 Democrat Presidents, and 3 Republican Presidents. Every one of them has grown the government, and expanded it's scope.
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Old 11-11-2012, 15:15   #65
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Dude, please! The idea of small government Conservatism is an absolute joke. Conservatives LOVE making decisions for what people do in their private lives like a house on fire. In each and every case, you guys go straight for a government solution to enforce restrictions on freedoms. Small government conservative? I’ve never seen one!

You people love to dictate (a reflexive response for all good authoritarian types) birth control using the governments hand. You people want to determine who can merry whom using the government’s hand. Let’s not forget the conservative support of forcing women to undergo unnecessary exams. Of course, there are issues like attacking the wrong country (Iraq), attempts force all kinds of restrictions on freedoms by way of updates to the constitution (more big government). Luckily, many such attempts failed. Point is that you people attempted many actions to restrict freedom using big government solutions.

Don't give me that tired old talking point about small government Conservatism, because that dog don’t hunt!
A Democrat accusing others of restrictions. Wow.

Birth control should be a private matter, not government sponsored.
I would agree that both parties have done poorly in staying the governments reach. This isn't the way most Republicans think though.
If you think conservatives and Democrats agree on governments reach..... I got an oceanfront property in ohio to sell ya.

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Old 11-11-2012, 15:43   #66
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Taxes on guns and ammo is what I believe is most likely. Make argument gun violence putting burden on obumacare. This general argument already made in Cook County, Illinois to put a $25 on all gun purchases.

Buy them cheap and stack them deep.
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Old 11-11-2012, 16:14   #67
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Dude, please! The idea of small government Conservatism is an absolute joke. Conservatives LOVE making decisions for what people do in their private lives like a house on fire. In each and every case, you guys go straight for a government solution to enforce restrictions on freedoms. Small government conservative? Iíve never seen one!

You people love to dictate (a reflexive response for all good authoritarian types) birth control using the governments hand. You people want to determine who can merry whom using the governmentís hand. Letís not forget the conservative support of forcing women to undergo unnecessary exams. Of course, there are issues like attacking the wrong country (Iraq), attempts force all kinds of restrictions on freedoms by way of updates to the constitution (more big government). Luckily, many such attempts failed. Point is that you people attempted many actions to restrict freedom using big government solutions.

Don't give me that tired old talking point about small government Conservatism, because that dog donít hunt!
Agreed, lol. "I want small government, I want the government to stay out of my life. But I want to make damn sure the government controls every single part of my neighbor's lives. But don't you dare try to control my life, because that's wrong."
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Old 11-11-2012, 16:27   #68
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Old 11-11-2012, 18:13   #69
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It's missing something..... A bullet hole!
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Old 11-11-2012, 18:19   #70
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Well, I guess it's time to speak my piece and it won't be pretty.

There will not be any change in the second amendment if Obama is re elected. That being said, if I remember correctly, the second amendment came about while muskets were fashionable. It's time to reassess the law. Our average citizens don't need assault rifles with 100 round drum magazines and you don't need an AK47 to go hunting. These weapons are dangerous in the hands of other than Military or Police. Also, for those people who think a revolutions is coming, I want what your'e drinking.
Dumbass. The 2nd amendment wasn't about hunting and still isn't. It is about having the weapons common to the infantry so that we can resist tyranny in government. That is it's ONLY purpose. Nothing to do with hunting, nothing to do with self-defense from common criminals. The men who wrote the constitution had just fought a revolution against an oppressive government because they had weapons at least as good as the common military arms (including cannon). You want them dumbass? Come and take them.

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Old 11-11-2012, 18:23   #71
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Dude, please! The idea of small government Conservatism is an absolute joke. Conservatives LOVE making decisions for what people do in their private lives like a house on fire. In each and every case, you guys go straight for a government solution to enforce restrictions on freedoms. Small government conservative? Iíve never seen one!

You people love to dictate (a reflexive response for all good authoritarian types) birth control using the governments hand. You people want to determine who can merry whom using the governmentís hand. Letís not forget the conservative support of forcing women to undergo unnecessary exams. Of course, there are issues like attacking the wrong country (Iraq), attempts force all kinds of restrictions on freedoms by way of updates to the constitution (more big government). Luckily, many such attempts failed. Point is that you people attempted many actions to restrict freedom using big government solutions.

Don't give me that tired old talking point about small government Conservatism, because that dog donít hunt!
Not even close. Let me answer in equal terms. "You people love to define that murder of children is birth control. You want to dictate that the rest of us have to accept unnatural same-sex relations as "marriage" against the dictates of our religions and our moral values (we've offered to accept civil unions to grant legal rights and been rejected). "

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Old 11-11-2012, 18:35   #72
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i thought we couldnt joke about that kind of stuff on here.....btw what is GT TOS?
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Who's joking.... I'm as serious as a heart-a-tack. What are the TOS? You'll have to look them up It's more than I care to try to type on this darn phone.
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Who's joking.... I'm as serious as a heart-a-tack. What are the TOS? You'll have to look them up It's more than I care to try to type on this darn phone.
i made a joke about lee harvey oswald could fix whats wrong with our country...follwed by the standard LOL....and the thread got locked because of "TOS" and a little scolding from a mod.

i figured talking about shooting a UN troop in the head met that standard as well, but i thought it too was a joke when said.....but i guess not....
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This represents why Conservative thought is a dangerous thing in a nation based on freedom.

This sign is akin to the Star of David used in the late 1930s to mark and set apart the Jews in Europe. Because Conservatives are by in large authoritarians, this tendency to separate those who don't agree with their extremism must be called out for what it is; un-American.
No extrapolation here, is there?

Good Lord. Did somebody slap a decal of this on your coat and force you to wear it?


The most intolerant people I've ever met are Liberals.
I remember them hanging George Bush and Sarah Palin in effigy. Shouting down political opposition. Now that was un-American and threatening.

So, rather than banter back and forth about it, let's just say extremism is alive and well on both sides, and you and I and perhaps 90% of everyone else is not part of it.
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No extrapolation here, is there?

Good Lord. Did somebody slap a decal of this on your coat and force you to wear it?


The most intolerant people I've ever met are Liberals.
I remember them hanging George Bush and Sarah Palin in effigy. Shouting down political opposition. Now that was un-American and threatening.

So, rather than banter back and forth about it, let's just say extremism is alive and well on both sides, and you and I and perhaps 90% of everyone else is not part of it.
so true, so true....
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i made a joke about lee harvey oswald could fix whats wrong with our country...follwed by the standard LOL....and the thread got locked because of "TOS" and a little scolding from a mod.

i figured talking about shooting a UN troop in the head met that standard as well, but i thought it too was a joke when said.....but i guess not....
The missing-a-hole-in-the-empty-helmet reference is not the same thing as "talking about shooting a UN troop in the head". It was an empty helmet. If you read Shotgun News you'd get the reference to using surplus helmets for target practice.

Lee Harvey Oswald did not shoot an empty blue helmet, he shot a General officer, a Governor, and the President.
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i made a joke about lee harvey oswald could fix whats wrong with our country...follwed by the standard LOL....and the thread got locked because of "TOS" and a little scolding from a mod.

i figured talking about shooting a UN troop in the head met that standard as well, but i thought it too was a joke when said.....but i guess not....
First, the thread wasn't in this forum and you weren't scolded by me. Second, I'm a "little" more lenient when it comes to "some" things than other moderators. Third, I can become a real tyrant and enforce the rules to the letter if necessary. For the most part the "pro gun guys" stay within what "I" consider legal and civil boundaries. When they don't I deal with it. I can't stand socialists and tend the be much less tolerant of them because over the years I've fond they are total MORONS and not deserving of my tolerance.

I hope that answered your question. "Anyone" that doesn't agree with it keep it to yourself because I don't really care to argue the the matter. This isn't a Democracy it's a privet owned board and therefore the The King (the owner) has granted me rule over this little piece and until he say otherwise I get to call the shots.

Not back on topic please.
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i made a joke about lee harvey oswald could fix whats wrong with our country...follwed by the standard LOL....and the thread got locked because of "TOS" and a little scolding from a mod.

i figured talking about shooting a UN troop in the head met that standard as well, but i thought it too was a joke when said.....but i guess not....
Last time I looked, Obama was fairly elected by a majority of our fellow countrymen and women.
Regardless of whether we all voted for him or not, some of us don't find your "joke" very funny.
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