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09-25-2012, 19:46
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Anyone seen this??
Heh...
this oughta be a hoot. For those of you who have a knee jerk reaction to anything outside the typical evangelical paradigm, before you fly off the handle and start throwing rocks, read about how this video came to be. Look at his commentary. And look for the overall message before you condemn it.
To the rest of you, enjoy. This was very very well done.
http://www.heliofant.com/
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09-26-2012, 18:24
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It was a little hard to watch. My computer was having trouble keeping up for some reason. Seemed to to be about the oppresiveness of religion. I liked the ending where all the religious symbolism seemed to drop away and reveal a spiritual man. We have a lot to muddle through, and to keep our spirituality despite all the mud, I find to be a worthy goal.
Thanks for sharing the vid.
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09-26-2012, 18:36
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Originally Posted by NMG26
It was a little hard to watch. My computer was having trouble keeping up for some reason. Seemed to to be about the oppresiveness of religion. I liked the ending where all the religious symbolism seemed to drop away and reveal a spiritual man. We have a lot to muddle through, and to keep our spirituality despite all the mud, I find to be a worthy goal.
Thanks for sharing the vid.
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Yeah it's best to start it, pause it, and let it load fully before trying to watch it. Vimeomis weird that way.
You ought to read the guys commentary on it, really interesting how it came about.
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09-26-2012, 18:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NMG26
It was a little hard to watch. My computer was having trouble keeping up for some reason. Seemed to to be about the oppresiveness of religion. I liked the ending where all the religious symbolism seemed to drop away and reveal a spiritual man. We have a lot to muddle through, and to keep our spirituality despite all the mud, I find to be a worthy goal.
Thanks for sharing the vid.
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I think you're on the right track. The spiritual man has to work through a lot of deception and trickery as well.
This page helps http://www.heliofant.com/commentary.html
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09-26-2012, 19:05
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It goes so much farther than individual spirituality though...
The symbolism, the allusion to the commonality of all people falling under the same spell, the control of institutions, and the lies that all of it brings about.
The guy said it just sort of came to him in movie form, and a lot of the symbols and stuff he saw in his mind he didn't undrstand, but was true to what he saw.
I think it is an amazing piece of work with a phenomenal message.
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09-26-2012, 20:38
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Originally Posted by MaxxAction
It goes so much farther than individual spirituality though...
The symbolism, the allusion to the commonality of all people falling under the same spell, the control of institutions, and the lies that all of it brings about.
The guy said it just sort of came to him in movie form, and a lot of the symbols and stuff he saw in his mind he didn't undrstand, but was true to what he saw.
I think it is an amazing piece of work with a phenomenal message.
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I agree. It's one of those things you have to think about and absorb over time.
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09-28-2012, 05:09
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Originally Posted by MaxxAction
It goes so much farther than individual spirituality though...
The symbolism, the allusion to the commonality of all people falling under the same spell, the control of institutions, and the lies that all of it brings about.
The guy said it just sort of came to him in movie form, and a lot of the symbols and stuff he saw in his mind he didn't undrstand, but was true to what he saw.
I think it is an amazing piece of work with a phenomenal message.
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So, were talking about evolution again?
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09-28-2012, 05:20
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So, were talking about evolution again?
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We're not talking about it, because "we" implies you're involved and whenever the conversation turns to difficult questions about evolution, or even simple questions for that matter, you quickly abandon the discussion.
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09-28-2012, 12:58
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So, were talking about evolution again?
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Can't be serious?? Right? You watched it and that is what you got from it??
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09-28-2012, 15:20
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So, were talking about evolution again?
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What did you think about the kid with the TV hardwired to his brain being fed hateful angry information? Did you notice the spritual man disconnecteed the wires? Was it a spritual man or the man in the boat was the man in the boat a symbol for the truth or a seeker of truth? I still don't know.
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09-28-2012, 15:37
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Impressive piece of work.
I'll watch again, mayhaps I missed Darwin amongst the images
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09-28-2012, 16:02
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Organized Religion is deception and trickery.
Nothing But.
If you are a believer within any Organized Religion there is no deception or trickery to "work through".
You have already accepted the entire load of deception and trickery hook, line, and sinker and the shamans are in control of your time, treasure, and in some cases, your very blood and life.
Which of course, is the true puropose of any Organized Relgion.
To enable shamans to control your time, treasure, blood, and/or life, for their own personal benefit, in exchange for the promise of a better afterlife that they can never prove that they can in fact deliver.
Why else did 19 Religious wack-o's slam airliners into buildings on 9/11/01?
Wake up and smell the scam.
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09-28-2012, 16:23
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Originally Posted by Norske
Organized Religion is deception and trickery.
Nothing But.
If you are a believer within any Organized Religion there is no deception or trickery to "work through".
You have already accepted the entire load of deception and trickery hook, line, and sinker and the shamans are in control of your time, treasure, and in some cases, your very blood and life.
Which of course, is the true puropose of any Organized Relgion.
To enable shamans to control your time, treasure, blood, and/or life, for their own personal benefit, in exchange for the promise of a better afterlife that they can never prove that they can in fact deliver.
Why else did 19 Religious wack-o's slam airliners into buildings on 9/11/01?
Wake up and smell the scam.
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The video made that point about reilgion, politics and other things quite clear.
So was the man in the boat truth or a seeker of truth?
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09-28-2012, 19:33
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Originally Posted by muscogee
The video made that point about reilgion, politics and other things quite clear.
So was the man in the boat truth or a seeker of truth?
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It is Christ...
Some things that I observed in the video..
Look at the blackboard behind bush, and Obama? Jerk offs.Also, the house is on fire, there's sharks in the water, and no one is paying attention. Above the blackboard, there is a chart that looks like a typical depiction of evolution, but the last two steps,are a homo Spain with a weapon, the last step is spiritually enlightened man.
There is a map on the wall of the untied states with push pins on NYC, new orleans, the Murrah building (okc) and deep water horizon. Beside and just above that is an owl, a figure that plays heavy in illuminati symbolism, and below is a brain that has been split by the lightning symbol from the third reich.
The little girl who sits surrounded by faceless peers who have already succumbed to the spell. Behind her is a pissed off rabbit from alice in wonderland, and on her right is a stag who is fighting through the same yellow sludge seen everywhere else. Medeival symbol for christ. The girl holds an apple, that she then rejects, and the apple is stained with the yellow subastance taking undr the migrant worker, all over the shirt of the depressed young egghead figure. Then when it pans out from the school, it says "Psalm 23" on the wall in graffitti, as the American flag splits in two, and the image of the twin towers falling.
OBL wears the badge of his creators, the CIA.
The figure, gjinn or Genie in the TV speaking into the kids mind as he grows has only one eye that is really visible, which signifies illuminati, and he has the all seeing eye pyramid upside down on his chin, and the tube is his medium of communication.
There's more if anyone car to look.
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