[rgregoryb]

Originally Posted by Phaze5ive

Try editing it; The English version of Wikipedia is pretty solid.

You can deny it all you want, but the Nazis were right wing. You focus too much on the "socialist" part and completely missed the "Nationalist" part. Nationalism is ultra right-wing.

thanks for your permission to deny it, cause I will.

[snowbird]

Originally Posted by Phaze5ive

Nationalism is ultra right-wing.

Is that historic British people's nationalism, the nationalism of the Muslim ummah, or the nationalism of the communist internationale?

It seems ironic that liberal fascists call themselves "anti-fascists" these days. From what I hear, Antifas are hard-left groups who use violence against "racists" and "fascists", i.e. anybody who opposes Leftist orthodoxy, such as the EDL (English Defense League -patriots who oppose the Islamization of England that is occurring under leftist 'elites' policies of multiculturalism and mass Muslim immigration). The Antifas may have the support of local authorities and police.

It is said that the leftist 'elites' who favor Muslim immigration, have a snobby British-caste-system dislike for the working-class patriotic EDL types. Is that right, Phaze5ive? I've also heard that the National Children's Bureau has issued guidelines to nursery teachers to be alert for "racism" amongst the toddlers -if a little tyke is fed spicy foreign food and says "yuk", he's a 'racist', from the leftist perspective. Have you heard of this?

I sincerely wish England good luck in the future years (and France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany, Italy, Spain, and for that matter, Canada, the U.S.A., Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, the Philippines, and probably others). All of these have Muslim problems that seem likely to worsen. Stopping Muslim immigration would ameliorate this, IMHO, but the leftist powers that be not only aren't interested in my opinion; they think I'm a "racist", etc.

[Cavalry Doc]

Originally Posted by Phaze5ive

Try editing it; The English version of Wikipedia is pretty solid.

You can deny it all you want, but the Nazis were right wing. You focus too much on the "socialist" part and completely missed the "Nationalist" part. Nationalism is ultra right-wing.

The Nazi's were actually left wing. They wanted the state to provide for all, and controlled private industry. The Commies (soviet style) wanted the state to provide for all and owned the industry.

Nationalism is a separate issue all together, and more of a control mechanism. If you are really proud to be from Tonga, and you are taught and convinced that your people are the best there is, and the highest form of human, it's only natural that you would take the rest of the world over.

The thing that made the Nazi's and Commies so bad was their propensity toward totalitarianism and the loss of personal liberties of their citizens. Both pretend to be for the workers, and ended in an oligarchy. There have even been a few democracies that have been totalitarian.

[GAFinch]

Originally Posted by Phaze5ive

Try editing it; The English version of Wikipedia is pretty solid.

Nationalism is ultra right-wing.

So Soviet Russia wasn't nationalist? Red China wasn't nationalist? North Korea isn't nationalist? Cuba isn't nationalist? Saddam's Iraq wasn't nationalist? France isn't nationalist? Right, of course, Hitler betrayed Stalin's Russia and there's no way a real Marxist could not love and worship the leftist utopia with all his heart.

[Snowman92D]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

You are no better than a terrorist.

No muslims = No terrorism

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

No muslims = No terrorism

Sure thing... tell that to the westboro baptist church, Branch Davidians, KKK, Army of God, Scott Roeder, Eric Rudolph, and so on and so on.

I know you want to say they aren't real Christians. But they are. Willing to sacrifice their very lives for what they believe. They would contend that YOU aren't the true Christians because you are willing to put some skin in the game.

[Snowman92D]

Okay...you lost me. What terrorist acts have the westboro baptists and Branch Davidians carried out? You mean to say they're blowing up buses of school kids and flying Boeing aircraft into builidings, too...?

Last I knew the KKK and Eric Rudolph had been hunted down and shot or jailed by....(drum roll, please)...by their own "kind". You're saying there are statutorily-created anti-terrorist law enforcement personnel in muslim countries who are hunting down and shooting/imprisoning their own "kind"?

[High-Gear]

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

No muslims = No terrorism

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...triot-timeline

[GAFinch]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

Christians and Jews have done their fair share of murder throughout the centuries. Each religion is just as guilty as the other.

That coexist moral relativism crap is bringing about the downfall of Western Europe as we speak.

[Snowman92D]

Originally Posted by High-Gear

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...triot-timeline

Well...hate to tell you, relying on the SPLC for honest info about terrorism, is like relying on Snopes for unbiased info about Democrat politicians. Color me skeptical.

So...when did the Westboro Baptist loonies, or the Branch Davidians fly Boeing aircraft into buildings, or carry out gun-and-grenades attacks at a local school, hospital or hotel?

[kirgi08]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

Sure thing... tell that to the westboro baptist church, Branch Davidians, KKK, Army of God, Scott Roeder, Eric Rudolph, and so on and so on.

I know you want to say they aren't real Christians. But they are. Willing to sacrifice their very lives for what they believe. They would contend that YOU aren't the true Christians because you are willing to put some skin in the game.

The Branch Davidians were victims of terrorism by this nations government,same as Ruby Ridge.

Originally Posted by High-Gear

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...triot-timeline

Your gonna use the Southern Poverty Law Center as as source.

Originally Posted by GAFinch

That coexist moral relativism crap is bringing about the downfall of Western Europe as we speak.

Ayep.

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

Well...hate to tell you, relying on the SPLC for honest info about terrorism, is like relying on Snopes for unbiased info about Democrat politicians. Color me skeptical.

Ayep.

So...when did the Westboro Baptist loonies, or the Branch Davidians fly Boeing aircraft into buildings, or carry out gun-and-grenades attacks at a local school, hospital or hotel?

They ain't,he's espousing SPLC rhetoric.'08.

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

Okay...you lost me. What terrorist acts have the westboro baptists and Branch Davidians carried out?

Guess it depends on what it takes to be terrorist in your definition. I consider anyone that terrorizes. Wether we can agree that the WBBC are terrorists or not... they still terrorize people. As for the BD they brainwashed and rape children. I feel they were a terrorist group that got stopped before they were able to blow something up.

You mean to say they're blowing up buses of school kids and flying Boeing aircraft into builidings, too...?

If that is your minimum standard for a terrorist then most terrorists aren't terrorists in your book. Osama Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist by this measure. He never personally crashed a plain into anything. Nor did he personally blow up any school buses.

Last I knew the KKK and Eric Rudolph had been hunted down and shot or jailed by....(drum roll, please)...by their own "kind".

I assume by "Own Kind" you mean other Americans? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Your original statement had nothing to do with who is policing these people. You said "No muslims = No terrorism". Not only is it a bigoted statement, It's 100% incorrect.

You're saying there are statutorily-created anti-terrorist law enforcement personnel in muslim countries who are hunting down and shooting/imprisoning their own "kind"?

Again, the fact that we have Law Enforcement agencies that deal with this has nothing to do with your incorrect statement. It also has nothing to do with religion. You're statement is simply false.

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by GAFinch

That coexist moral relativism crap is bringing about the downfall of Western Europe as we speak.

You misunderstand me. I'm not in favor of coexisting between religions. My view is that the world will advance and mankind will grow once there is no religion at all.

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by kirgi08

The Branch Davidians were victims of terrorism by this nations government,same as Ruby Ridge.

Eh... one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Guess you know how the muslims feel after all.

While I agree the Ruby Ridge fiasco was a complete mess. Randy Weaver is a nut case. He was no hero. Wonder if there was anything he could have done different to keep his wife and son from being killed?

[kirgi08]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

Eh... one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Guess you know how the muslims feel after all.

Depends on the context,the Muslims just attacked on US soil,consulates ect are US soil.CoOrdinated dontcha Know.

While I agree the Ruby Ridge fiasco was a complete mess. Randy Weaver is a nut case. He was no hero. Wonder if there was anything he could have done different to keep his wife and son from being killed?

Mr.Weaver was not "a nut case",he was a man trying ta provide for his family.He was set up and marked for his views.By Clintons watchdog,Ms Janet Reno.Does Elian ring a bell with you?.Doubt it. Elian was a kid that Janet Reno sent a scared 5yo back ta Kuba.

You seem ta be a lookee-loo when it comes ta reality.'08.

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by kirgi08

Depends on the context,the Muslims just attacked on US soil,consulates ect are US soil.CoOrdinated dontcha Know.

From their point of view they are doing God's will. No different than any Christian. Just trying to make God happy.

Mr.Weaver was not "a nut case",he was a man trying ta provide for his family.He was set up and marked for his views.By Clintons watchdog,Ms Janet Reno.Does Elian ring a bell with you?.Doubt it. Elian was a kid that Janet Reno sent a scared 5yo back ta Kuba.

You seem ta be a lookee-loo when it comes ta reality.'08.

Sure he was nut case. And he hung out with trash. I wonder if he'd just made himself easier to get in touch with or if he'd just turned himself in would his wife and kid still be a alive? He made matters far worse than they had to be. It's quite possible he would have been rail roaded and put in prison. But his kid and wife wouldn't be rotting in the ground. He did them no justice. He sure as hell didn't provide for them. Unless getting them killed is what you call providing.

[snowbird]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

No different than any Christian.

Yesterday in Nigeria, Muslims used guns and knives to murder 26 students at the hostel of Mubi Polytechnic college. A lecturer said there may be 40 dead. He said the Muslim murderers wore military uniforms and told students to identify themselves by name. Some were spared after mentioning their names.

So Christians found, staff, and fund universities, while Muslims just shoot them up. And you're with the Muslims.

Today's total of deadly Muslim attacks, just since 9/11, has now reached 19,692. Your "chick" must be so proud of you for supporting this great movement. Especially if she's (I'm assuming she's a she. Can't always assume that with today's Left) aware of what your Muslims are doing in Mali now.

In Mali, Muslims are telling women to toe their sharia line (mandatory big black veils, no tight clothing, and curfew at 2300hrs) or else they'll be whipped, have their ears cut off, and be sent to a new, all-female prison.

Dear Glock36shooter's chick,
Where in Christianity do you see this kind of barbarity?
Answer: nowhere

[High-Gear]

Originally Posted by kirgi08

Does Elian ring a bell with you?.Doubt it. Elian was a kid that Janet Reno sent a scared 5yo back ta Kuba.

So you support illegal immigration? Thanks, will you sign the petition to get the DREAM Act passed?

[High-Gear]

Originally Posted by Snowman92D

Well...hate to tell you, relying on the SPLC for honest info about terrorism, is like relying on Snopes for unbiased info about Democrat politicians. Color me skeptical.

?

Can you share some facts to support this position, or are you just hateful because their facts don't jive with your Fox News world view?

[kirgi08]

Originally Posted by High-Gear

So you support illegal immigration? Thanks, will you sign the petition to get the DREAM Act passed?

Ta avoid political persecution,yes I do.'08.

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by snowbird

Your "chick" must be so proud of you for supporting this great movement. Especially if she's (I'm assuming she's a she. Can't always assume that with today's Left) aware of what your Muslims are doing in Mali now.

My chick is a super militant atheist. She agrees with me that Christians are no different than Muslims. Just a bunch of crazy people talking to invisible friends in the sky. The part I find funny is that most of you think you're christians by choice.

If you were born in the areas that bred these muslim terrorists... you'd more often than not be just like them. You wouldn't be Christian... You'd be muslim. Maybe a terrorist... maybe not. But you'd definitely be muslim. Mostly has to do with whatever culture you're born into.

Notice I said most. Cause I know one of you will whine "You can't make a blanket statement like that!"

Dear Glock36shooter's chick,
Where in Christianity do you see this kind of barbarity?
Answer: nowhere

If I support muslims by thinking all religion is garbage... then so does she. But we all know that isn't the case. It's just your warped extremest insane logic.

It isn't an Us or Them prospect. All religion is poison. Yours included.

[snowbird]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

It isn't an Us or Them prospect.

19,694 today.

[Altaris]

Originally Posted by GAFinch

That coexist moral relativism crap is bringing about the downfall of Western Europe as we speak.

I agree, and I know he posted about it too. It is the wussy liberal 'can't we just all get along' crap that is allowing the Muslims to work their way in to everything, and allowing the Christians to ram their views down everyone's throat. We need to not be liberal weaklings when it comes to religion. It is all garbage, all false, and all of it needs to go away. We should not be tolerant of any of it.

[Snowman92D]

Originally Posted by Glock36shooter

Guess it depends on what it takes to be terrorist in your definition. I consider anyone that terrorizes. Wether we can agree that the WBBC are terrorists or not... they still terrorize people. As for the BD they brainwashed and rape children. I feel they were a terrorist group that got stopped before they were able to blow something up.

So...let me get this straight. a "terrorist" is anyone who has frightened you in the past...or may potentially frighten you at some point in the future? You need to come out from under your bed and get a whiff of fresh air more often.


At least you admit the hyperbole and childlike emotion of your previous post.

[Glock36shooter]

Originally Posted by snowbird

19,694 today.

Where most of them Christian?