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Old 09-18-2012, 17:14   #1
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New Gun Day: EAA Witness P Full Size (Pics Inside)

I purchased an EAA Witness P full size chambered in 9 X 19 mm. It's the Tanfoglio Force, imported from Italy by EAA. It's based off the CZ75.

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This has got to be the smallest factory pistol case. The EAA Witness P includes one magazine, the instruction manual, a safety lock. It also includes two cleaning brushes: polymer bristle & phosphor bronze.

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Back to the pistol...

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Old 09-18-2012, 17:14   #2
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The grip texture is rough where it needs to be. First picture is the front strap. Second is the back strap. There are no interchangeable grip panels.

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Field stripped:

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A view into the frame:

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Slide field stripped. The metal guide rod is a plus.

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Old 09-18-2012, 17:15   #3
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A view into the slide. A close up of the rear slide serration.

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The barrel. The locking lugs are very 1911-esque.

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Old 09-18-2012, 17:15   #4
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The feed ramp on the EAA Witness is very steep.

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With a magazine & dummy round inserted, you can see the path the round takes to the chamber. It will be interesting to find out if the EAA Witness P is hollow point ammo sensitive.

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I can't wait until the weekend to break it in. I plan on firing a hundred factory loads and then transition to my reloads. So far it feels very good in the hand, no sloppy fit or finish. For $299, I'm not complaining.
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Old 09-18-2012, 17:21   #5
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Nice!!

That looks like a Bul Cherokee.
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Old 09-18-2012, 17:21   #6
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Very interesting. Great detailed photos! How does that grip feel?
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Old 09-18-2012, 17:29   #7
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Very nice

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Old 09-18-2012, 17:47   #8
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Very interesting. Great detailed photos! How does that grip feel?
The texture felt aggressive. Not quite as harsh as Glock RTF. Not quite as mild as Glock Gen4.

I have smaller hands, and the grip feels good. The only way I can describe it is S&W M&P full size w/small grip panel without the palm swell.
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Kinda ugly to me. Especially the dual texture side grips. What the hell is going on there? Yech.
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<==== looked at one of these as my 1st DA/SA... Let us know how she shoots!!
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Old 09-18-2012, 18:57   #11
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It's hard to tell, but are the frame rails steel? It's looks like it has a steel insert at the hammer end.
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For 299 it looks great, I hope it runs great for you. Now they need one in 10mm for 379.
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Old 09-18-2012, 20:19   #13
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Congrats! I think the Witness is pretty solid. Have shot a 10mm steel frame model. Shockingly accurate.
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Congrats! I think the Witness is pretty solid. Have shot a 10mm steel frame model. Shockingly accurate.
I have always wanted to try one of their 10MMs.
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It's hard to tell, but are the frame rails steel? It's looks like it has a steel insert at the hammer end.
The frame rails are steel. Hopefully this better pic will be of help:

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Congrats! I think the Witness is pretty solid. Have shot a 10mm steel frame model. Shockingly accurate.
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I have always wanted to try one of their 10MMs.
A 10mm EAA Witness is on my radar for next year. I'm done purchasing firearms this year.
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EAA makes a find pistol! It was my first choice when I was looking for a 10mm however wound up buying the S&W 1006 because it was built for the 10mm!

I may still get one (the all steel frame) because they are solid and priced right.

Let us know how it performs at the range!
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EAA makes a find pistol! It was my first choice when I was looking for a 10mm however wound up buying the S&W 1006 because it was built for the 10mm!
EAA makes a good 10mm, but you got the better of the two for sure.
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Old 09-21-2012, 16:08   #19
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Went to the range today. Between new hypertension medication & work stress, my shooting wasn't stellar. Excuses...excuses... :(

The EAA Witness P / Tanfoglio Force flawlessly cycled 300 rounds today. 100 Winchester White Box. 100 mild reloads w/frangible truncated projectiles. 50 peppy reloads w/frangible truncated projectiles. 50 peppy reloads w/Berry's 115gr copper plated.

The Witness P is definitely more than the sum of it's parts. Accuracy is spot on accurate. The deep curved & serrated trigger weren't a detriment as I thought it would be. The hybrid grip texture is grippy in all the right places.

My only other comparison to a full size is to my S&W M&P 9fs. Felt recoil with factory rounds and the "peppy" rounds out of the EAA Witness P is on par with a S&W M&P 9fs.

Using the mild handloads, the EAA witness' ejection is more positive than the S&W M&P 9fs. Using the mild loads, my M&P makes a neat pile right by my feet. The same rounds out of the Witness P are flung to the right as if they were full power loads.I perceived less muzzle flip firing the Witness P than my M&P 9fs. It made follow up shots easier.

The EAA Witness DA trigger pull isn't bad at all. The SA trigger pull is perfection.

The one observation I have is that I'm used to manipulating a traditional side that mounts over the frame rails. It gives me more slide surface area to grip it overhand and power-stroke the pistol. The Witness P has less surface area on the slide for an overhand grip & power stroke. No big deal.

Target is out to 10yds./30ft.

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I wasn't concerned about accuracy. I was paying more attention the pistol's function, felt recoil impulse, and trigger.

Second target:
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Pistol functioning perfectly. Now paying attention to how the trigger breaks, DA & SA.

Third target:
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Paying more attention to the sights & trigger. Moving around to see where POA correlates to POI.

Fourth target:
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Now I'm trying to put it all together. I'm getting frustrated because the new hypertension medication is affecting my shooting. This is my first time completely off caffeine & with this new medicine.

Fifth target:

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This was the best I could do today. The grouping is good, just off to the right of the bullseye. The Witness P is doing it's job exceptionally well. I'm just not holding up my end of the bargain well.

I can't believe this gun cost $299. It's definitely a bargain.
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Congratulations on your new gun.

I just bought one today online from "Cheaper Than Dirt"

I'll get it next week - I'm looking forward to it.

I've owned EAA's before and they are great guns.

There is a steal of a price on them at CTD today - only a few left.


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Congrats! The only thing I don't like about certain CZs and their clones is the tiny area to grip when racking the slide. I use an overhand method that's fluid after inserting a mag and that thin area dosn't work too well.
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Congratulations on your new gun.

I just bought one today online from "Cheaper Than Dirt"

I'll get it next week - I'm looking forward to it.

I've owned EAA's before and they are great guns.

There is a steal of a price on them at CTD today - only a few left.

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Keep in mind, when you buy something from EAA, they will often times send you a defective product, but will actually let you know the item is defective (and all your problem), by including this silly note in with the item.

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