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Old 09-18-2012, 13:51   #26
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He flip flops on so many issues, just because he wants to get in office for his own personal gains (just like Obama) you don't know when he's being serious or not.

Of course, since I don't agree with you, and blindly vote just because they have an "R" by their name, I'm a liberal.

Typical immature response by someone who can't come up with anything more intelligent to say. Toodles!
Lib - liberal or libertarian. Both camps love throwing out similar generalized anti-Republican/anti-war/anti-semitic attacks into threads and we frequently have trouble figuring out whether it's from a liberal and a libertarian, so the term lib reduces how much we have to type.

Even this flip flopping statement you just made is another irrelevant, propagandized anti-Republican attack since we're not talking about a scripted speech read off of a teleprompter but statements made when he didn't know he was being recorded. We get that you're upset about Ron Paul getting destroyed in the primaries but this continued, now pointless, Republican bashing is getting old.
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Old 09-18-2012, 13:54   #27
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CNBC poll: Do you agree with Romney's statements? 75% yes right now, despite media outlets going ballistic over this almost non-stop today.
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Old 09-18-2012, 13:56   #28
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Lib - liberal or libertarian. Both camps love throwing out similar generalized anti-Republican/anti-war/anti-semitic attacks into threads and we frequently have trouble figuring out whether it's from a liberal and a libertarian, so the term lib reduces how much we have to type.

Even this flip flopping statement you just made is another irrelevant, propagandized anti-Republican attack since we're not talking about a scripted speech read off of a teleprompter but statements made when he didn't know he was being recorded. We get that you're upset about Ron Paul getting destroyed in the primaries but this continued, now pointless, Republican bashing is getting old.
Funny how the "libertarians" who were trying to court and woo Republicans are now lining up with the LIBERALS to bash Republicans.

Sounds like they are PO'ed because their liberal plot to water down the Republican party failed utterly and they are coming out of the closet as the liberals they really are.

Of course that is just the 90% of them giving the rest a bad name.
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Old 09-18-2012, 14:02   #29
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CNBC poll: Do you agree with Romney's statements? 75% yes right now, despite media outlets going ballistic over this almost non-stop today.
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Old 09-18-2012, 14:03   #30
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Santorum says no intelligent people will join GOP. He's right.
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Old 09-18-2012, 14:07   #31
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Santorum says no intelligent people will join GOP. He's right.
Judging by the supporters in this forum and on the streets, the Democratic base is much worse off.
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Again with Santorum.

Where do you get the idea that everyone on the right loves Rick Santorum or supported him at all?

For one of the supposedly "smart ones" you really don't know jack about us....do you?
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Old 09-18-2012, 14:13   #33
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Republicans, especially in the South, who are not rich, better take a good, long hard look at the man and what he said in the video. It may seem like Romney is trashing Democrats at the $50,000-a-plate dinner, but really he's talking about Republicans.
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Old 09-18-2012, 14:15   #34
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Republicans, especially in the South, who are not rich, better take a good, long hard look at the man and what he said in the video. It may seem like Romney is trashing Democrats at the $50,000-a-plate dinner, but really he's talking about Republicans.
Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of filers who didn't pay federal income taxes are red states that voted for John McCain in 2008: Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Idaho. Only New Mexico and Florida voted for Obama. Conversely, of the 10 states with the lowest percentage of filers who didn't pay federal income taxes, seven voted for Obama. Only Alaska, Wyoming and North Dakota voted for McCain.
Keep in mind a large portion of the 47% that Romney was talking about are middle- and low-income Republicans who voted for McCain. They are not Obama-loving Democrats. That's not spin, that's fact.
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Old 09-18-2012, 14:28   #35
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Romney just came on Cavuto and doubled down on his statements, again. He emphasized that it's a recognition that, while he is campaigning for swing voters, 47% of Americans are going to vote Democrat no matter what, based on philosophy more than the purely economic status the left is trying to frame his comments on. He's not going to get 60 or 70% of the vote, but closer to 50+%.


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I think this focuses a great deal of attention on whether or not we're going to have a government that becomes larger, that tells us what kind of health insurance we have to have, that under the President he's indicated he wants to raise taxes, raising taxes on small businesses, about a million small businesses - that's going to kill jobs. Look, the President is borrowing a trillion dollars more than we're taking in every year. It's a pathway that looks more European than American in my view and it's one which I know some Americans are drawn to. I think they're wrong. I think they don't recognize that it's not good for America at large. 100% of Americans, in my view, will do much better if we have a government that lives by the model established by the founding fathers and that was one based on freedom and opportunity.
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Romney basically said what this election is truly about: the makers versus the takers.

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Romney just came on Cavuto and doubled down on his statements, again. He emphasized that it's a recognition that, while he is campaigning for swing voters, 47% of Americans are going to vote Democrat no matter what, based on philosophy more than the purely economic status the left is trying to frame his comments on. He's not going to get 60 or 70% of the vote, but closer to 50+%.


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And that's what is "shocking," "controversial," and "outrageous" to the media trying to spin this into something it isn't....Romney's display of unapologetic leadership.
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Old 09-18-2012, 15:02   #38
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The media........... conservative's are always at a disadvantage with that liberal-biased estate.

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And you had the nerve to question my poll analysis?

Romney's statements generally ring true, if liberally construed in a light most favorable to Romney, but they're far from accurate. Saying that every D voter is a gov't leech isn't the way to win Indy votes and it sure won't bring any crossover voters that Romney desperately needs, seeing how he's already written off chunks of millions of voters.
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And you had the nerve to question my poll analysis? .
Show me where I endorsed them as definitive.

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Show me where I endorsed them as definitive.

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My mistake. I thought when you posted something you had a point to make. I should have known better.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:41   #42
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My mistake. I thought when you posted something you had a point to make. I should have known better.
Well, then, my apologies for not continually stating the obvious for your (apparently necessary) benefit.


ETA: Oh, and hey...bonus points for quoting yourself in your sig.
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Republicans, especially in the South, who are not rich, better take a good, long hard look at the man and what he said in the video. It may seem like Romney is trashing Democrats at the $50,000-a-plate dinner, but really he's talking about Republicans.
We have almost 4 years of Obama being in charge. That is what people need to take a look at.

In a sane world the following Obama video would have been the big news story....
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We have almost 4 years of Obama being in charge. That is what people need to take a look at.

In a sane world the following Obama video would have been the big news story....
Obama open mic slip: 'After my election I have more flexibility' - YouTube
But obama's deception and dishonesty displayed in this video is not news for the MSM because it is behavior that is totally accepted by them and the democratic party.... cheat, lie and manipulate the stupid voting public. Promise to throw them a free bag of M&Ms and they will follow you anywhere.

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Another botch by Team Mittens, had he been saying this publicly he could have at least had some say the narrative. Instead he's busy chasing after a hostile press.
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But obama's deception and dishonesty displayed in this video is not news for the MSM because it is behavior that is totally accepted by them and the democratic party.... cheat, lie and manipulate the stupid voting public. Promise to throw them a free bag of M&Ms and they will follow you anywhere.

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I know, but it is a shame. Obama is admitting that what he wants to do is so outrageous that it would likely cost him the election.

Mitt is saying he can't spend time and resources trying to convince Obama's faithful to vote for him.
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Another botch by Team Mittens, had he been saying this publicly he could have at least had some say the narrative. Instead he's busy chasing after a hostile press.
I've seen a few people call this a botch. Why? He is absolutely right. There will be a large group of voters who will vote for Obama simply to keep the money flowing. There will be a large group of voters who will simply vote for Obama because of his skin color. There will be a large number of MSM people who are openly hostile to Republicans, and will only vote Democratic.

Why should Romney waist his limited time and limited money on trying to convince voters and the MSM who will never vote for him?

What he said was red meat for conservatives. They will eat it up because its what they believe. What is surprising is he didn't walk back the statement.
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I've seen a few people call this a botch. Why? He is absolutely right. There will be a large group of voters who will vote for Obama simply to keep the money flowing. There will be a large group of voters who will simply vote for Obama because of his skin color. There will be a large number of MSM people who are openly hostile to Republicans, and will only vote Democratic.

Why should Romney waist his limited time and limited money on trying to convince voters and the MSM who will never vote for him?

What he said was red meat for conservatives. They will eat it up because its what they believe. What is surprising is he didn't walk back the statement.
Obama has already acknowledged that there is a large voting block that fears that their checks and subsidies upon which they have become dependent will be taken away by Romney and the GOP. He plays into that fear at every opportunity in order to keep those votes trending toward him. But for some reason, it's wrong when Romney points that out but okay when Obama does.
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Obama has already acknowledged that there is a large voting block that fears that their checks and subsidies upon which they have become dependent will be taken away by Romney and the GOP. He plays into that fear at every opportunity in order to keep those votes trending toward him. But for some reason, it's wrong when Romney points that out but okay when Obama does.

The problem is that the VAST majority of the MSM believes the way Obama does. And since they have stopped showing even a pretense of objectivity in their reporting, they will simply push their preferred narrative.


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We have almost 4 years of Obama being in charge. That is what people need to take a look at.

In a sane world the following Obama video would have been the big news story....
Obama open mic slip: 'After my election I have more flexibility' - YouTube
In polling done in swing states, this incident is actually an important concern for swing voters. This must have made the rounds in a few different outlets.
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