[KingWalleye]

Over this past violent summer in Chicago there have been at least three attacks where the shooters rode up on bicycles and opened fire.
Is this a new trend?

[MPD280]

Tough economy. Drive by's are just not economically feasible for some organizations.

[Vigilant]

Or, could younger thuglets be starting to follow the same practice?

[Sharky7]

Bikes have always been big in Chicago. Often used by "runners" who are usually 12-15 year kids who get the dope from the stash houses and run it out to the dealers when they order it up. Easier to run from the police as well on a bike. You would be surprised how much of the violence is by teens.

[Ajon412]

Originally Posted by MPD280

Tough economy. Drive by's are just not economically feasible for some organizations.

I was thinking the same thing, with the price of gas and all......Besides, it's easier to steal a bike than a car...

[rednoved]

Blame GTA: San Andreas.



Besides, bikes make it hard to give a detailed description to the police, if those snitches talk. A vehicle has plates. Most people can give basic details. Color. Car, truck, or SUV. 2 doors or 4 doors. Many people can identify make and or model. Some can figure a basic production year range.

[PettyOfficer]

Originally Posted by rednoved

Blame GTA: San Andreas.

Thank you.


Blame a video game for their use of already exhibited gang behavior long before they even started coding that version.

I also think you over-think their use of bikes: super slow get away, not exactly thought out. Your argument falls flat when you realize most drivebys are in stolen vehicles anyways.

[steveksux]

Read about a drive by on a bike in Detroit, on the east side.

Shot up someone's house, they called the police. The next day the police were there taking a report, and the same guy drove by on his bike to try it again.

Running from the cops on a bicycle was not too successful. If I remember right, I believe he tried to shoot it out with the cops from the bike as well. That was also not too successful.

Randy

[metal]

Originally Posted by steveksux

Read about a drive by on a bike in Detroit, on the east side.

Shot up someone's house, they called the police. The next day the police were there taking a report, and the same guy drove by on his bike to try it again.

Running from the cops on a bicycle was not too successful. If I remember right, I believe he tried to shoot it out with the cops from the bike as well. That was also not too successful.

Randy

lol What street? If it was 80's I'd guess Grey or Mapleridge or something like that but now... guess it could have been anywhere

[collim1]

1. Bikes are quiet. Same reason bike patrols work great in the projects, the BG's dont see you and hear you coming.

2. Cars are easier to identify and hard to hide.

[DaBigBR]

Do you have any idea what gas prices are in Chicago? It's economics, man!

[m2hmghb]

Originally Posted by collim1

1. Bikes are quiet. Same reason bike patrols work great in the projects, the BG's dont see you and hear you coming.

2. Cars are easier to identify and hard to hide.

3. bikes can bypass heavy traffic that would stop a cruiser.

[Patchman]

Kinda make sense. Ride-Bys usually involve gangs and people who peddle drugs, so they probably feel more comfortable peddling a bike...

[collim1]

Originally Posted by m2hmghb

3. bikes can bypass heavy traffic that would stop a cruiser.

Good point.

[Bren]

Originally Posted by KingWalleye

Over this past violent summer in Chicago there have been at least three attacks where the shooters rode up on bicycles and opened fire.
Is this a new trend?

Have you seen the price of gas lately?

[Poohgyrr]

Originally Posted by Sharky7

You would be surprised how much of the violence is by teens.

Absolutely true and not many people realize this.

[rednoved]

Originally Posted by PettyOfficer

Thank you.


Blame a video game for their use of already exhibited gang behavior long before they even started coding that version.

I also think you over-think their use of bikes: super slow get away, not exactly thought out. Your argument falls flat when you realize most drivebys are in stolen vehicles anyways.

I'm not over thinking their use. That is one example. People have listed a lot more than that in this thread. I do realize drivebys are often done in stolen vehicles. Most is not all though. Do you have any real numbers or percentages to back up your statement that most drive bys are commited in a stolen vehicle? I'm not at all saying it is not true. But, do you have comparable figures for drivebys committed in personal vehicles? Bikes? Stolen bikes? The numbers would be difficult to quantify unless every case was solved with conculsive information. Many drive bys go unsolved, maybe because they are using bikes? You can't really say for sure. Not all criminals are as stupid as we make them seem. Riding a bike a block or two might seem a lot less risky to them than driving a vehicle that may have been reported stolen.




And THANK YOU.

[golls17]

Was it on here I heard about the guy caught with a stolen bike? He told the cop it was a "community bike". You ride it to where you need to go, then leave it for the next person...

[PettyOfficer]

Originally Posted by rednoved

I'm not over thinking their use. That is one example. People have listed a lot more than that in this thread. I do realize drivebys are often done in stolen vehicles. Most is not all though. Do you have any real numbers or percentages to back up your statement that most drive bys are commited in a stolen vehicle? I'm not at all saying it is not true. But, do you have comparable figures for drivebys committed in personal vehicles? Bikes? Stolen bikes? The numbers would be difficult to quantify unless every case was solved with conculsive information. Many drive bys go unsolved, maybe because they are using bikes? You can't really say for sure. Not all criminals are as stupid as we make them seem. Riding a bike a block or two might seem a lot less risky to them than driving a vehicle that may have been reported stolen.




And THANK YOU.

Okay, I don't have stats but your assumptions are way out of line, you're blaming video games like anti's blame guns for crime.

You try to turn the sign back in me? You obviously deserve it.

Here's your new sign:

[golls17]

Originally Posted by PettyOfficer

Okay, I don't have stats but your assumptions are way out of line, you're blaming video games like anti's blame guns for crime.

Two words: Michael Carneal.

Michael Carneal had never shot a firearm in his life, other than a few practice rounds the day before he took a .22 handgun into a school and shot a bunch of kids.

He fired 8 shots. He got 8 hits. 8 different kids. 5 head shots, the other 3 upper torso.

He learned from video games. He had arcade-quality video games in his home, and he played them for hours on end. In no other setting will you find a "one shot one kill" mentality, but in video games, you get bonus points for head shots.

(by now, most of you probably know exactly where I'm getting this info from, but for those who don't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hyd...ailpage#t=229s hard to argue with Lt. Col. Dave Grossman)

Just an example...

I by no means think video games are 100% of the problem, but they sure can be a contributing factor.

[steveksux]

Originally Posted by metal

lol What street? If it was 80's I'd guess Grey or Mapleridge or something like that but now... guess it could have been anywhere

Don't remember the exact street, but was not too far from Mack/Bewick area (sort of notorious area).

I think it was farther away from downtown than Bewick, maybe past French Rd towards Connor and closer to Jefferson than Mack, maybe below Charlevoix or Vernor.

Somewhere in that general area...

Randy

[GumbyDammit]

They don't want a cite for no insurance or suspended DL!

[rednoved]

Originally Posted by PettyOfficer

you're blaming video games like anti's blame guns for crime.

Sarcastically?






Are you really that slow?

[lawman800]

Originally Posted by golls17

Was it on here I heard about the guy caught with a stolen bike? He told the cop it was a "community bike". You ride it to where you need to go, then leave it for the next person...

That was me... the story was that the bike he was caught riding on, and almost crashed headfirst into us, with the scratched out altered serial numbers, was "DA HOOD BIKE" and you take it to go where you need to and leave it there and the next guy will use it and dump it and so on and so on. Nobody owned it so he is not responsible for the scratched out serial numbers.

[lawman800]

Originally Posted by GumbyDammit

They don't want a cite for no insurance or suspended DL!

You can still get him for tinted windows, no seatbelts, and expired reg, right?