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Old 09-16-2012, 22:40   #26
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If you want an answer to your original question about being able to have
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something smaller but long enough I can still do the flashlight over the arm hold with a gun
I'm not really sure what that means.

I'm just not getting the visualization, so please help me out OK?

If you want an impact weapon flashlight that is Made in the USA with a "no questions" lifetime warranty that it'll be fixed or replaced no matter how much abuse you heap upon it.... Pelican 8060.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:46   #27
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If you want an answer to your original question about being able to have I'm not really sure what that means.

I'm just not getting the visualization, so please help me out OK?

If you want an impact weapon flashlight that is Made in the USA with a "no questions" lifetime warranty that it'll be fixed or replaced no matter how much abuse you heap upon it.... Pelican 8060.
I think he means the Harris technique?

Yeah, it gets clunky with a full sized metal C cell Maglite but who carries those anymore?

Any of the modern duty lights will do for your purposes without getting in the way of the technique.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:07   #28
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'Twas me. BC40 is kicking butt for well over a year now, still melts eyeballs like new. Just got into a scrape with it tonight, in fact. Still fine. I've convinced 4 guys at work to buy them without even saying anything (they just see it in action). Couple people on this board have bought them as well. It's as close to perfect as a duty light as I've found. If it could dock to charge, it would BE perfect.
Heck yeah- this light rocks! I've dropped mine a few times, it still keeps on kicking. Brightest light of the size and cost that I've found out there; it's fantastic on traffic stops at night; lights up the whole interior of the suspect's car, even through tinted windows!
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surefire fury, small, solid and BRIGHT 500 lumens...it's a little spot light...this is my go to light.
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Forgot which thread it was that someone brought up the Romisen lights from Shining Beam for $16.95 that puts out up to 150 lumens on a single AA battery. Anyway, I bought +2 at that price and came out to $37 with shipping. Got the light in 3 days from NY, which ain't bad at all.

This is the new Q5 version that is supposed to be brighter than the last R2 version and comes with a green push button, not the orange like previous iterations.

The box is a plain white cardboard folded rectangular box with no markings on it, very generic, like any other no name brand item you pick up for parts for something like a standing torch light bulb or something.

Simple pouch made of bubble wrap, and out comes the light with a wrist strap. The initial impression was that the light feels very solid and substantial for its size, which is just a tad shorter than a Fenix PD30, but wider as the head on this light is a conical shape, instead of just a straight tube like the Fenix.

Unscrewing the cap to put the battery in unveils that the square cut threads claimed by the company to increase positive feel really works. You would have to try very very hard to cross thread this flashlight cap and the action is very smooth yet secure when you screw the cap on and off. As you don't replace batteries everyday, not sure how this will matter to most, but it's there and it actually works as claimed.

The on/off is oversized and has a good feel. Not crazy about the color, but I'm sure my hands will turn the green plastic into a nice grimy black in no time. The body is also cut into sharp geometric shapes to prevent rolling if you put in down. The edges could be softer, IMHO, but inside my jeans, I don't really feel it anyway.

The bezel doesn't turn except for parts replacement/maintenance since it's only a single mode light but at that price, what do you expect?

The light is pretty bright though. It definitely surpassed my expectations for a single AA light that is pocket sized and cheap. It is definitely brighter than my Surefire 6PD LED which cost at least 5x more and that light takes 2 CR123's which are harder to find and more expensive. Run time is about 1.5 hours claimed on a single AA which is pretty average and fair, if it really lasts that long.

My friend has a truck with medium/dark tinted windows and I shined the light inside and can light up the interior pretty well at night. The throw is also wide enough for general indoor use. Haven't tried it in a dark field or something, I'll do that tonight in the backyard.

I'll update as I carry it more, but this is from the initial impressions and from the first night of pocket carry when I went out to dinner with friends.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:10   #31
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Forgot which thread it was that someone brought up the Romisen lights from Shining Beam for $16.95 that puts out up to 150 lumens on a single AA battery. Anyway, I bought +2 at that price and came out to $37 with shipping. Got the light in 3 days from NY, which ain't bad at all.

This is the new Q5 version that is supposed to be brighter than the last R2 version and comes with a green push button, not the orange like previous iterations.

The box is a plain white cardboard folded rectangular box with no markings on it, very generic, like any other no name brand item you pick up for parts for something like a standing torch light bulb or something.

Simple pouch made of bubble wrap, and out comes the light with a wrist strap. The initial impression was that the light feels very solid and substantial for its size, which is just a tad shorter than a Fenix PD30, but wider as the head on this light is a conical shape, instead of just a straight tube like the Fenix.

Unscrewing the cap to put the battery in unveils that the square cut threads claimed by the company to increase positive feel really works. You would have to try very very hard to cross thread this flashlight cap and the action is very smooth yet secure when you screw the cap on and off. As you don't replace batteries everyday, not sure how this will matter to most, but it's there and it actually works as claimed.

The on/off is oversized and has a good feel. Not crazy about the color, but I'm sure my hands will turn the green plastic into a nice grimy black in no time. The body is also cut into sharp geometric shapes to prevent rolling if you put in down. The edges could be softer, IMHO, but inside my jeans, I don't really feel it anyway.

The bezel doesn't turn except for parts replacement/maintenance since it's only a single mode light but at that price, what do you expect?

The light is pretty bright though. It definitely surpassed my expectations for a single AA light that is pocket sized and cheap. It is definitely brighter than my Surefire 6PD LED which cost at least 5x more and that light takes 2 CR123's which are harder to find and more expensive. Run time is about 1.5 hours claimed on a single AA which is pretty average and fair, if it really lasts that long.

My friend has a truck with medium/dark tinted windows and I shined the light inside and can light up the interior pretty well at night. The throw is also wide enough for general indoor use. Haven't tried it in a dark field or something, I'll do that tonight in the backyard.

I'll update as I carry it more, but this is from the initial impressions and from the first night of pocket carry when I went out to dinner with friends.
i got a p6 drop in from deal extreme for $14 that's a q5, popped it in my g2, and it's brighter than my surefire defender too. Using lifepo2 rechargeables in them, working very well. Carrying spare batts since rechargeables don't last as long, haven't beefed them yet. Did a class on building searches, lasted all night. that's not as long as whole shift though....

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Looking at Jetbeam's product line, they have some nice offerings. I just bought a PA-01 single-AA powered pocket flashlight rated at 140 lumens. It's about the same size as the tiny Fenix E11. Trying really hard to resist buying a BC40 as well.
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Looking at Jetbeam's product line, they have some nice offerings. I just bought a PA-01 single-AA powered pocket flashlight rated at 140 lumens. It's about the same size as the tiny Fenix E11. Trying really hard to resist buying a BC40 as well.
Do it! JetBeam's B series lights are awesome. I don't think a better value than the BC40 exists in that type of light. I own a BC10 as well and it's just as solid.
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Do it! JetBeam's B series lights are awesome. I don't think a better value than the BC40 exists in that type of light. I own a BC10 as well and it's just as solid.
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Old 09-29-2012, 00:02   #35
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Surefire R-1 Lawman http://www.surefire.com/illumination...bk-lawman.html

The absolute best light I've ever used. $455 MSRP, but I got mine from LA Police Gear for just under $300 (on one of their many weekend sales).
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Look at the Jetbeam PA10. With a 14500 battery, the same size as a AA, it will put out as many as 650 lumens. In a pocket flashlight.
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Look at the Jetbeam PA10. With a 14500 battery, the same size as a AA, it will put out as many as 650 lumens. In a pocket flashlight.
I hate you... more money to be spent.
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Conceals well under Spandex too.
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Conceals well under Spandex too.
How many do you think I can hide?
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How many do you think I can hide?
Due to the geometry involved and intel gained as a CO, I'm not EVEN gonna go there.
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Has to match the number of Slims though... because you can't hit what you can't see.
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Surefire R-1 Lawman http://www.surefire.com/illumination...bk-lawman.html

The absolute best light I've ever used. $455 MSRP, but I got mine from LA Police Gear for just under $300 (on one of their many weekend sales).


OMG! They finally came out with a 10mm flashlight equivalent!

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Surefire R-1 Lawman http://www.surefire.com/illumination...bk-lawman.html

The absolute best light I've ever used. $455 MSRP, but I got mine from LA Police Gear for just under $300 (on one of their many weekend sales).
Very cool light. Got to handle one last time I was at DSG. Little big for me, hoping they come out with a strion sized rechargeable.


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OMG! They finally came out with a 10mm flashlight equivalent!

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How are you going to write the report up to explain how come the suspect's face is melted like the end of "The Raiders of the Lost Ark"?
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Those who own a BC40, do you use CR123s, or rechargeable 18650s?
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The small Pelican has done well for us as issue for a few years now.

But:
My primary light on graveyard was a Blackbear Borealis - a thousand + lumens and as bright as the high beams on your car. It throws a clearer, cleaner light than our Pelicans (which are better than our old issue SL20's). And on building searches, the Borealis is much better and lights up the entire interior of large rooms - by simply aiming the light at the center of the room. Works great at distracting and obtaining cooperation from those who think they are not going to do what you need them to do. Also lights up those large warehouses better than any other flashlight I've seen. Different reflectors give you different throw & spread - I use the medium.

The "Rolls Royce" battery setup lasts me a week between charges; the batteries last over a year and CostCo/ Sam's Club/ battery stores carry the good replacements. Customer service is quick (questions, bulbs, whatever...). I sent mine back for a refurbish after the first four years, and a backup battery pack for those calls that seem to last longer than forever. I'm basically off graves now, and use this flashlight for everything at home, camping, etc...

For a C cell size, my wife uses the Bear Cub. It does great for our home and yard and about ties the small Pelican.

FWIW; a great handheld light.

http://www.blackbearflashlights.com/
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Those who own a BC40, do you use CR123s, or rechargeable 18650s?
I run a pair of AW 18650s and they work well. The battery life is as described. I leave the light on the 130 lumen setting as a default and turn it on high for things like car stops or foot pursuits. I'm on nights and I've been getting about two weeks of use out of it before needing to recharge. One thing though is that when it dies, it's dead. Mine does not dim at all, it simply stops working. I've always got a small spare plus the mounted maglight in the car, so it's not a big deal (not to mention backup CR123s in my bag). Plus, I know how long I can go at this point and haven't had it die on me in months.

I've used CR123s and while they work fine, they'd be an expensive primary battery as the battery life of the BC40 is shorter by like a third with them.
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How are you going to write the report up to explain how come the suspect's face is melted like the end of "The Raiders of the Lost Ark"?
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As long as you can master the sly smile of quiet confidence....

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