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09-15-2012, 19:13
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Not Enough Gun
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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
Did you know that doctor's used to prescribe smoking for lun ailements? They were supposed to the unquestioned authorities of their day. We now know how absurd that was. Yet, you assume everything is correct now?
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No, we don't assume everything is correct. That's why we ask for evidence and continue to investigate and progress, because we know that we don't know everything.
On the other hand, as GM so ably demonstrates, there is a contingent that insults progress and wishes only to focus on their interpretation of scripture to the exclusion of all else.
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09-15-2012, 19:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
Did you know that doctor's used to prescribe smoking for lun ailements? They were supposed to the unquestioned authorities of their day. We now know how absurd that was. Yet, you assume everything is correct now?
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Any evidence that the recommendation was based on results from following the scientific method?
Galen also advocated vag*n*l fumigation to treat hysteria, but that doesn't mean it was based on science.
-ArtificialGrape
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09-15-2012, 21:59
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#103
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Why don't we have a physics, science or math subforum? It would be much more beneficial than the religion subforum.
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09-15-2012, 22:06
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#104
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Originally Posted by Harper
Why don't we have a physics, science or math subforum? It would be much more beneficial than the religion subforum.
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Because those pesky theists would keep showing up and ruining our threads with bible quotes.
(yes theists, this was firmly tongue in cheek)
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09-15-2012, 22:28
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#105
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Seriously, we need one. How do we make that happen?
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09-15-2012, 22:49
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heres some video on this subject.btw, when u guys figure out the answer to this...id like to know what came first? the chicken or the egg?
http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_bang_theory/
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09-15-2012, 23:15
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#107
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Fogey
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See it was like this.
God had just finished making the next universe over.
So he brings a hot coal over from that one and with all the volatile gases in our Universe. 'BANG!!!!!!!!'
Of course it was a big one. God has many Universes. Some are really BIG!!!

Any one want to prove me wrong??? Step right up. I mean if you intellects can't even figure out how to make a new forum here. ??????? It's late, I'm not drunk but I'll be praying for ya!!!
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Trying to make sense of it all.
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09-16-2012, 00:29
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#108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
Did you know that doctor's used to prescribe smoking for lun ailements? They were supposed to the unquestioned authorities of their day. We now know how absurd that was. Yet, you assume everything is correct now?
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Absolutely not. Where in what I wrote did you get the impression that I think the state of our scientific discovery is perfect in every detail. We're still learning everyday. That doesn't change that so many religious hypocrites out there spit on the notion of scientific discovery while not only enjoying, but depending on it for their very lives. This is hypocrisy any way you wanna slice it. It's truly biting the hand that feeds you... or I guess I should say medically treats you. On the flip side of that coin no mythology has ever given me anything other than a burden and chains. Think about that next time you take even an Advil. The same biology and chemistry that you spit on... made modern day medicine possible.
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09-16-2012, 00:32
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#109
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Originally Posted by Green_Manelishi
I don't "bash science" you silly git. I bash "scientific" theories which can neither be proven or falsified except with an equally unprovable and unfalsifiable "scientific" or mathematical formula.
Your "science" is a religion, nothing more or less. You too have your heretics (questioning your dogma) which will be excommunicated if they dare question the holy writ according to Darwin, Dawkins and Hitchens.
Branes, multiverses, strings, quantum singularities. A never ending parade of imaginations and theories. Meanwhile the Word of the Lord continues on forever, unchanging and reliable.
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Originally Posted by Animal Mother
Slavery is still A-OK then? What about executing women for not being a virgin on their wedding night or not sufficiently protesting their rape? Those are part of the unchanging and reliable word of the Lord aren't they?
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Indeed... how about it being perfectly fine to rape a single virgin so long as you pay her dad 50 pieces of silver and promise to take the damaged goods off his hands? This still cool as well?
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09-16-2012, 00:36
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#110
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Originally Posted by 9jeeps
See it was like this.
God had just finished making the next universe over.
So he brings a hot coal over from that one and with all the volatile gases in our Universe. 'BANG!!!!!!!!'
Of course it was a big one. God has many Universes. Some are really BIG!!!

Any one want to prove me wrong??? Step right up. I mean if you intellects can't even figure out how to make a new forum here. ??????? It's late, I'm not drunk but I'll be praying for ya!!! 
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I still like the interpretation that God will eat the souls of the saved in Heaven. All heaven is is a giant eternal buffet for old god... and we are the food.
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09-16-2012, 03:33
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#111
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Not Enough Gun
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Green_Manelishi
I don't "bash science" you silly git. I bash "scientific" theories which can neither be proven or falsified except with an equally unprovable and unfalsifiable "scientific" or mathematical formula.
Your "science" is a religion, nothing more or less.
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This seemed appropriate as a response.
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09-16-2012, 08:16
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#112
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
Any evidence that the recommendation was based on results from following the scientific method?
Galen also advocated vag*n*l fumigation to treat hysteria, but that doesn't mean it was based on science.
-ArtificialGrape
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Neither was the global warming caused by humans concept prevaricated by experts in the science field until it was determined and revealed that the evidence was falsified. All in the name of a socio-political economic agenda.
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09-16-2012, 08:22
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#113
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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09-16-2012, 10:54
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#114
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CLM Number 293
Disirregardless
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harper
Why don't we have a physics, science or math subforum? It would be much more beneficial than the religion subforum.
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Sadly, the biggest reason I hang out in RI is because this is the closest we get to a STEM forum.
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09-16-2012, 10:56
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Disirregardless
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9jeeps
See it was like this.
God had just finished making the next universe over.
So he brings a hot coal over from that one and with all the volatile gases in our Universe. 'BANG!!!!!!!!'
Of course it was a big one. God has many Universes. Some are really BIG!!!

Any one want to prove me wrong??? Step right up. I mean if you intellects can't even figure out how to make a new forum here. ??????? It's late, I'm not drunk but I'll be praying for ya!!! 
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I don't have to prove you wrong. Do you have any math to support your model? If not, I can reject your assertion as easily as you made it.
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"Maybe they should drink like Woofie and come up with pure brilliance." - OXCOPS
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09-16-2012, 11:41
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#116
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Not Enough Gun
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
Neither was the global warming caused by humans concept prevaricated by experts in the science field until it was determined and revealed that the evidence was falsified. All in the name of a socio-political economic agenda.
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When was it revealed that the evidence was falsified? I must have missed that. Please supply a reference or two. You can't be referring to the stolen University of East Anglia emails, since it was determined that there was no false information found in them.
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09-16-2012, 12:01
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Animal Mother
When was it revealed that the evidence was falsified? I must have missed that. Please supply a reference or two. You can't be referring to the stolen University of East Anglia emails, since it was determined that there was no false information found in them.
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09-16-2012, 12:46
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#118
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Not Enough Gun
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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
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I know you prefer posting videos to actually thinking about things, but you've made an error here since I've already wasted my time watching this thing and know that it was wrong when it came out 4 or 5 years ago and is only more wrong in light of the data that's been collected since then. I asked for evidence, not propaganda, misrepresentations, and false information.
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09-16-2012, 13:39
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#119
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CLM Number 265
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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
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So now you're siding with scientists that are claiming the earth is millions of years old. At least you have moved past that untenable young earth position.
-ArtificialGrape
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09-16-2012, 14:29
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
So now you're siding with scientists that are claiming the earth is millions of years old. At least you have moved past that untenable young earth position.
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No. I am siding with the fact that global warming based on man made CO2 is a myth propogated for political and financial gain. Essentially, abusing science once again to put forward an agenda rather than actually pursuing knowledge. The philosophy of science has been pimped out over the years more than a two dollar whore.
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09-16-2012, 14:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
No. I am siding with the fact that global warming based on man made CO2 is a myth propogated for political and financial gain. Essentially, abusing science once again to put forward an agenda rather than actually pursuing knowledge. The philosophy of science has been pimped out over the years more than a two dollar whore.
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So, when they say MMGW is a myth they're credible, but when in the same sentence they refer to hundreds of thousands or even millions of years of earth's history, then you can just ignore that part because they're pushing an agenda. Now that is handy.
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09-16-2012, 16:49
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Originally Posted by ArtificialGrape
So, when they say MMGW is a myth they're credible, but when in the same sentence they refer to hundreds of thousands or even millions of years of earth's history, then you can just ignore that part because they're pushing an agenda. Now that is handy.
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Even a blind kitten can sometimes find the nipple. Half right was better than all wrong.
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09-16-2012, 17:12
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#123
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Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
Even a blind kitten can sometimes find the nipple. Half right was better than all wrong.
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You have to understand why it's impossible to take you seriously in any discussion involving science given that you must reject core tenets of physics/cosmology, biology, botany, geology, anthropology and chemistry in order to cling to your young earth mythology while you are surrounded by the comforts and conveniences that science provides.
You must understand that with each passing day Young Earthers look more and more like the Flat Earth Society.
-ArtificialGrape
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09-16-2012, 18:54
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#124
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Not Enough Gun
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingarthurhk
No. I am siding with the fact that global warming based on man made CO2 is a myth propogated for political and financial gain.
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I'm sure we all await your data in support of this claim.
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09-16-2012, 19:02
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Isaiah 53:4-9
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Originally Posted by Animal Mother
I'm sure we all await your data in support of this claim.
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You must live under a rock. You haven't see the the insider trading on "green" energy and the Al Gore crusade, and how much money we have thrown away on a farce. There is a lot of money and political energy wrapped up in the lie of CO2 human caused global warming.
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