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Old 09-13-2012, 08:46   #1
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glock 17 SD ammo

am very undecided about what ammo to use in my glock 17 .My two options are speer gold dot 124 gr and 124+p
do you think will be a big different of performance ,or is about the same ???

thanks randy
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:57   #2
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Personally I only run +p or +p+ ammo for social use in my 9's, Speers GD is a good choice as is Underwoods offerings of +p and +p+ loads. I personally run their +p+ 1300 fps load now. Win Ranger T 127's and HST 124 +p's are also solid load. Fed 9BPLE 115+p+ is also very affordable and potent, despite the OH NOES, IT FRAGMENTS crowd.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:00   #3
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Check out Winchester Ranger RA9TA

127 grain +P+
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:46   #4
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Glockfan2327,

If these are your 2 choices my vote would be for the 124g round.

The Speer Gold Dot 124g by itself are quite a formidable round without being in the +P range. I would think these would be a bit easier to control and the reacquisition of your target might be a bit faster as well with the GD 124g. Two elements you need in a self defense round choice.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:27   #5
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FYI, I have chronographed the Winchester 9mm 115gr JHP +p+ in my G17 and I got a whopping 1400 FPS (500 ft-lbs muzzle energy). I carry it with near-total confidence.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:38   #6
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FYI, I have chronographed the Winchester 9mm 115gr JHP +p+ in my G17 and I got a whopping 1400 FPS (500 ft-lbs muzzle energy). I carry it with near-total confidence.
Which Winchester bullet? If it's the "white box" stuff you get at Walmart I'm not sure I'd have so much confidence.
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Old 09-13-2012, 13:08   #7
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I would take 124+p, just like Mas responded to you. I just bought 500 rounds of it to use in my 9mm though I do use Speer Gold Dot 147 gr as well in my hd G17 only as it's soft to shoot (relatively speaking) and easier for wife/daughter to use.
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Old 09-13-2012, 14:42   #8
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+1 for the Speer 124 +p. Both of my carry 9's a G26 and a Kahr PM9 are loaded with them. I've shot them in my G17 with great results and wouldn't hesitate to carry it with them (I just don't carry it).
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Old 09-13-2012, 14:51   #9
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Maybe I post this too much?

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm


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Old 09-13-2012, 16:19   #10
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Which Winchester bullet? If it's the "white box" stuff you get at Walmart I'm not sure I'd have so much confidence.
Not the white box - Winchester Ranger.
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Old 09-13-2012, 18:42   #11
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As Mas said......

124+P. It has a great street record. The new Underwood stuff and the Speer 124 non-+P do not. That simple. All that I can figure is that you do not want to have fast wear on your new G17. I feel the same way with my new Gen 4 G26. I carry the GDHP 124+P, but after 150 trouble free rounds, I stick to American Eagle 124 grain target ammo. The only time that I plan on firing the carry load in the future is when I freshen my supply with new ammo. I don't plan on doing that but once about every two to three years. The target ammo that I shoot feels pretty close to my carry load recoil wise, even though it is non-+P. Hope this helps.
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Not the white box - Winchester Ranger.
Ok then. Good stuff.
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Old 09-13-2012, 18:56   #13
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I agree with Mas Ayoob, the 124+P is a very proven round. It's still a pretty mild shooter, especially in a full size gun.

Either is going to work though.

http://le.atk.com/pdf/GoldDotPoster.pdf

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Old 09-13-2012, 19:38   #14
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Personally I only run +p or +p+ ammo for social use in my 9's, Speers GD is a good choice as is Underwoods offerings of +p and +p+ loads. I personally run their +p+ 1300 fps load now. Win Ranger T 127's and HST 124 +p's are also solid load. Fed 9BPLE 115+p+ is also very affordable and potent, despite the OH NOES, IT FRAGMENTS crowd.
I agree with this.

I was really impressed with the 9BPLE test performed by TNOutdoors9. Wow However, it was just a test, not real life. But, real life also seems to think 9BPLE works well.

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Old 09-13-2012, 21:12   #15
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In your G-17 I'd go with the default round Speer Gold Dot 124-grain +P, with second choice tied for 124-grain Remington Golden Saber +P Bonded/115-grain Federal 9BPLE +P+.

Any one of them will perform as advertised within parameters already established. Don't overthink the issue.

Addendum: And I've got more than a half-dozen other 9mm rounds I'd feel perfectly comfortable carrying.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:11   #16
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thanks guys , I going to buy both and see how I do at the range ,Mas told me to use the +p version so that say it all ..
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Old 09-14-2012, 18:18   #17
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I run 124 +p gd in my 17. When I attach my suppresor I change to 147 gd.
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