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Old 09-01-2012, 07:07   #1
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Glock 30 460 Rowland Conversion Review

Hi Everyone

It has been a year or so since i did a review on one of my firearms and posted it live..I thought i would share with everyone here on my new glock 30 460 Rowland conversion that i did..i made a video on youtube and it tells you the difference between various calibers that i own.Tell me what you think..


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Old 09-04-2012, 23:03   #2
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Thanks, pal, am thinking about the same. Any shooting video or impressions?
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Old 09-05-2012, 17:57   #3
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Hits like a sledgehammer...I dont recommend rapid firing the weapon..it will hurt after a while..i dont even recommend double tapping with it unless you have to..The positives about this is that it is a high velocity round that is extremely accurate within 25yards.but since i have the polymer pistol conversion you will feel the recoil harder vs a 1911..I have a 454 casull in a snub nose 2 1/2" barrel ..that **** kicks extremely hard..the 460 rowland recoil is about 3/4 the same minus the muzzle jump..when you double tap with it the shots stay consistant but you will feel it in your hands..I love the fact that you can also shoot 45 super and 45 acp out of the same gun without a barrel swap..Excellent value and quality for the price..i highly recommend this convesrion if you dont mind creating alot of noise in your local gun range
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Old 09-05-2012, 20:44   #4
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nice video's, nice guns. do you belong to the "my guns must kick like a mule club" ?
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:30   #5
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ha ha.i am looking for a gun club like that
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:47   #6
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Is there any reason not to get a Rowland conversion, aside from price? It still functions with 45 acp? How is the barrel/chamber different?
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Old 09-06-2012, 16:14   #7
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The diameter of the barrel is the same as 45acp but the chambering is different because the 460 rowland brass is longer that 45acp..they did that purposely because they did not want you to fire the 460 rowland out of the standard 1911 or glock barrels due to the fact the gun might explode due to higher pressures..the 460 rowland is loaded at 40,000psi..the standard 45acp is loaded at 21,000psi..If you try to load the 460 rowland in your standard 45 acp gun, it will not chamber
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Old 09-06-2012, 17:02   #8
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So, do you have to permanently locktite the compensator to the barrel? The only reason I ask, is in the event you want to pop out the conversion barrel to put the glock .45ACP barrel back into you're weapon. The .460 Rowland barrel can fire .45ACP, but it was always a caviat that it would affect accuracy.
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Old 09-06-2012, 17:19   #9
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The diameter of the barrel is the same as 45acp but the chambering is different because the 460 rowland brass is longer that 45acp.
If I load 45 acp into a Rowland gun, will it function? I assume yes?

And how's the accuracy on that? Ok to practice with 45 acp through the Rowland barrel? Or better to swap back to the stock barrel for that?
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Old 09-06-2012, 19:05   #10
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No you do not have to locktite the compensator to your barrell..though it is recommended but mine does not need it because it does not move whille firing..You can swap out barrels and springs at your convenience...The accuracy of the gun is more accurate than the stock glock barrel due to the twist in the aftermarket barrell..the consistency of the shot placement was grouped together very well with shooting round after round even though the recoil factor was high .The 460 Rowland was designed and made to shoot the 45acp, 45super and the mighty 460 Rowland ..you have 3 calibers that can be fired in one gun..It is like the Smith and Wesson 460 XVR..You can shoot 45 colt 454 Cassull and 460XVR
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Old 09-06-2012, 20:28   #11
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No you do not have to locktite the compensator to your barrell..though it is recommended but mine does not need it because it does not move whille firing..You can swap out barrels and springs at your convenience...The accuracy of the gun is more accurate than the stock glock barrel due to the twist in the aftermarket barrell..the consistency of the shot placement was grouped together very well with shooting round after round even though the recoil factor was high .The 460 Rowland was designed and made to shoot the 45acp, 45super and the mighty 460 Rowland ..you have 3 calibers that can be fired in one gun..It is like the Smith and Wesson 460 XVR..You can shoot 45 colt 454 Cassull and 460XVR
I have a .454 Casull, though I really never felt the need to fire .45 long colt through it. Have you fired .45 super through your .460 Rowland barrel? Also, what type of .460 Rowland ammo have you fed through your pistol? Manufcaturer, grain, bullet type, etc. Since you said you haven't had any issues with jams, etc, you are tempting me to get a conversion for my G21.
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Old 09-06-2012, 21:04   #12
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Who makes and where did you get it cause man I want one
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Old 09-06-2012, 23:31   #13
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The conversions can be bought at 460rowland.com.. give them a call and see if they still have a backorder.. i had to wait two months for mine.. I have not shot 45 super out of it as of yet..but according to there customer service..the 460 conversion is designed to handle and shoot the 45 super..I dont think that i will be ordering any 45 super ammo for it because the 460 rowland out performs it in ballistics.It is just good to know that the owner has another option to use the 45 super...one of the great features of this gun is that,if i want to carry the weapon as conceal carry..i could just remove the compensator and load regular 45acp ammo..As for ammo i buy custom 460rowland ammo made by Jds Custom Bullets, my favorite load is the Nosler 185gr at 1550fps over 1000lbs of energy..He is very precise with his loadings and they are brand new manufactured ammo..You can also buy 460 rowland from these other well known companies listed below..

http://www.underwoodammo.com/460rowland.aspx

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...duct_list&c=69

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/460-Rowland/products/306/

http://shop.460rowland.com/index.php...tegory&path=74

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Self-Defen...20/100/Product

http://georgia-arms.com/460rowland.aspx
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:24   #14
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Good stuff. Thanks!
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Old 09-07-2012, 19:31   #15
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It looks pretty cool... I was not familiar with the specifics of this round before this thread but did some reading.

Seems clever but at the same time it almost appears to really be just a very hot loaded 45 (high pressure).. Almost like. 45++++p.

I realize I'm over simplifying but it seems to be the case.... The conversion seems to be cheap enough and certainly is easy (barrel and spring swap). Just not sure I see the real utilitarian purpose...

I will,admit though unless someone can enlighten me, I find it hard to believe it was renamed for the inventor as the cartridge seems to be roughly the same, 45 acp seated lower to increase pressure and then loaded hot as blazes
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Old 09-07-2012, 19:39   #16
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Who cares what it's called?

It's basically .45 Super Duper. Looks like a nice round for handgun hunting. I can't see using it for personal defense, though.
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Old 09-07-2012, 20:03   #17
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All this is is a compensated barrel with a stiffer recoil spring. How many rounds before your gun is battered to hell? I always see the post-build reviews of these kits, but never a "two years later with 1500 rounds through it" review. I'm curious about the extra stress on the gun.
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:02   #18
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So far so good.No wiggle or loose ends.I guess only time will tell how well the glock frame can hold up against the mighty 460 rowland..but i know for a fact they are strong as hell to handle full powered 10mm loads...I dont know how many 460 Rowlands i will eventually put through mine since it is not a pleasant round to shoot for fun..after 15-25rounds you will want to take a break..According to customer service at 460rowland.com they have already tested the glock frame tolerance at around 1000 rounds of 460 rowland and it still holds very strong..As for being practical as every day carry ..I switch over to 45acp federal hydra shocks..The main purpose of the 460rowland was to be a backup side arm for when you are out in dangerous game world..and also i just love the fact i can shoot 3 calibers in one gun without a barrel swap..
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Old 09-07-2012, 21:40   #19
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..According to customer service at 460rowland.com they have already tested the glock frame tolerance at around 1000 rounds of 460 rowland and it still holds very strong.
I'm surprised... 1000 rounds doesn't sound like that much but like you said, it's not a round designed for high round count I guess.
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So far so good.No wiggle or loose ends.I guess only time will tell how well the glock frame can hold up against the mighty 460 rowland..but i know for a fact they are strong as hell to handle full powered 10mm loads...I dont know how many 460 Rowlands i will eventually put through mine since it is not a pleasant round to shoot for fun..after 15-25rounds you will want to take a break..According to customer service at 460rowland.com they have already tested the glock frame tolerance at around 1000 rounds of 460 rowland and it still holds very strong..As for being practical as every day carry ..I switch over to 45acp federal hydra shocks..The main purpose of the 460rowland was to be a backup side arm for when you are out in dangerous game world..and also i just love the fact i can shoot 3 calibers in one gun without a barrel swap..
I guess, for all intents and purposes, 500-1000 rounds is the most that most people will ever fire through their converted guns. Like you said, 1) It's not really meant for defense, only a fun gun or a woods gun. 2) Recoil is not pleasant, so shooting a lot is not fun. 3) Ammo is expensive.

I wish the kits were a little more affordable, say around $225-$250. If that were so, I'd be tempted to try it out on my G21 gen 4. But after tax and shipping, it's at least a $350 affair. A little steep as far as I'm concerned.
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