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Old 09-02-2012, 17:38   #121
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Plated bullets used to be a much cheaper alternative to jacketed bullets. They don't seem to be cheaper these days, so I wouldn't bother with them if I bought bullets, which I rarely do.
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Old 09-03-2012, 21:22   #122
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You loaded and fired max loads right off the bat in a new gun? You didn't work up prior? (every batch can be different) Did you size your new brass?
I would think that all the rounds should have been weighed for a new gun. Glad you didn't get hurt.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:08   #123
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Those are expanded not bulged. They will probably drop right in the factory barrel and you can probably spin them in the barrel. Try it.

If they don't spin they have a little guppie. You can't see it well in the picture. You may see it different because you have held them and see it better and know what to look for in the picture. But to me those look OK except the primers look flat but it's not easy to see.

That is just how Glock 10mm brass looks. A little barrel shaped.

BTW, I would guess you had a overcharge. Maybe not a double charge but a overcharge.

Are you using a Progressive Press?
Steve,
I owe u an apology. I responded to your idea of spinning a fired case in my bbl by stating I'd never have even been able to fit one in the chamber in the first place. I was thinking case gage, not bbl. sorry :-(
So, I tried your suggestion. I CAN plop the fired cases in the chamber. They turn freely. It brings me back to my original thought that the cases looked normal. I believe an overcharge got by me, as a few have suggested.

Thanks a ton for all your input, everyone. I've learned a few things and I hope this thread is a cautionary tale for those looking to reach max loads and beyond.

- Dave
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:22   #124
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Steve,
I owe u an apology. I responded to your idea of spinning a fired case in my bbl by stating I'd never have even been able to fit one in the chamber in the first place. I was thinking case gage, not bbl. sorry :-(
So, I tried your suggestion. I CAN plop the fired cases in the chamber. They turn freely. It brings me back to my original thought that the cases looked normal. I believe an overcharge got by me, as a few have suggested.

Thanks a ton for all your input, everyone. I've learned a few things and I hope this thread is a cautionary tale for those looking to reach max loads and beyond.

- Dave
Dave,

Initially, I had reservations about suggesting the potential of your powder drop randomly throwing an even higher charge than you had setup. I did not want to assume that you had not measured each and every case since you were in the initial stages of testing your recipe. I think it is probably common for reloaders to figure that, since it threw 20 accurate charges, why would it throw one higher or lower.

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Old 09-05-2012, 11:25   #125
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Steve,
I owe u an apology. I responded to your idea of spinning a fired case in my bbl by stating I'd never have even been able to fit one in the chamber in the first place. I was thinking case gage, not bbl. sorry :-(
So, I tried your suggestion. I CAN plop the fired cases in the chamber. They turn freely. It brings me back to my original thought that the cases looked normal. I believe an overcharge got by me, as a few have suggested.

Thanks a ton for all your input, everyone. I've learned a few things and I hope this thread is a cautionary tale for those looking to reach max loads and beyond.

- Dave
Thanks, and I am glad you learned some stuff.

Could you PM Zombie Steve, Jack, Whisky and a couple others. Just so they know I was right. I would hate for them to miss it.
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Old 09-05-2012, 13:10   #126
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I think it is probably common for reloaders to figure that, since it threw 20 accurate charges, why would it throw one higher or lower.
Which is a very good reason to stay 0.3 gr to 0.5 gr away from max. Leave a little room for powder measure variation.

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Old 09-05-2012, 14:17   #127
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Which is a very good reason to stay 0.3 gr to 0.5 gr away from max. Leave a little room for powder measure variation.

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Gee... recommended Min to rcommended Max... the spread on 320/124gr loads is sometimes .3gr to .5gr

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Gee... recommended Min to rcommended Max... the spread on 320/124gr loads is sometimes .3gr to .5gr
Sometimes that is exactly the case. But I still try to stay away from max. I don't use the V320 powder but even the other powders don't have much range. This is particularly true for pistol reloading.

But it seems to me if the load is at max and the powder measure hiccups, there is a possibility of a serious overcharge.

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Old 09-05-2012, 14:52   #129
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Gee... recommended Min to rcommended Max... the spread on 320/124gr loads is sometimes .3gr to .5gr
I stay away from powders like that.

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...But it seems to me if the load is at max and the powder measure hiccups, there is a possibility of a serious overcharge.
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I stay away from powders like that.
Oh nuts... when I asked what Kool-Aid to drink everyone said blue 'cause Dillons are purrrfect and powder-throws are consistent and accurate.

...but a lot of people stay away from 320 - based more on price, than limited charge spread.
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Old 09-05-2012, 16:29   #131
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Oh nuts... when I asked what Kool-Aid to drink everyone said blue 'cause Dillons are purrrfect and powder-throws are consistent and accurate.

...but a lot of people stay away from 320 - based more on price, than limited charge spread.
I think it may also be based on availability from the LGSs. They simply don't stock high $ powder. To even try VV powder you are practically forced to add it to a bulk order from somewhere like Powder Valley. And then there is that HazMat fee! You really can't buy just a pound to try it out.

So, I just ordered a pound of N540 for .308. Sierra calls it their accuracy load for the .308 175 gr BTHP. I'm in!

But I also bought 8# of IMR 4064, a pound of Varget, primers and some bullets. I need to spread that HazMat fee around.

I have been loading .45 ACP with 4.8 gr of 700-X since '82. I don't see any reason to change so I may never get to try VV powder in a pistol. But the most it could add to the cost of a reloaded round is about a penny. Two cents on the outside. When the bullet costs thirteen cents, who cares about another penny?

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Thanks, and I am glad you learned some stuff.

Could you PM Zombie Steve, Jack, Whisky and a couple others. Just so they know I was right. I would hate for them to miss it.
I'd venture to say they know your always right, anyway! ;-) but I'll dot the T, anyway just for you. :-))




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