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Old 08-08-2012, 16:55   #21
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I've put a couple hundred rounds through the Gen4 G21 rental at my local range - I'm sure this thing has had thousands of rounds through it with minimal mx and cleaning.

All reloads. The only BTF came from brass bouncing off the lane dividers. I set the plastic tote they give you to carry your rental to my right against the lane divider (roughly to the gun's 4/5 o'clock) and probably 75-85% of my brass winds up in that tote. Seems to be pretty consistent.

Happy enough with it that I'll be buying one.

Good luck with yours.

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Old 08-08-2012, 16:58   #22
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Hi, still new to this forum.

I got a new Glock 21 Gen 4 a couple of days ago and wanted to ask if you could help me.

It's a great gun and I love shooting it but it spits brass all over me. Hot brass raining over you gets tiring after a while.

Is this just because the gun is still new, shot 300 rounds today, or is there something wrong with it?
The date on the spent casing is Apr 2012.

Thanks for your input.
Do you clean your gun, specifically the breech face and extractor? Do you lube properly? What is your grip and stance? Can you post a video? What ammo are you using?

Really, folks - why everytime someone posts a ejection thread do we just assume it's not a simple problem? You have to rule out the basics first.

It's like calling your mechanic and saying, "Hey, my car isn't running right - what's wrong with it?"

Mechanic: "I don't know. Can you bring it in so I can verify it and diagnose the problem?"

You: "No, I will not bring it in. Just take my word for it and assume it is no fault of my own. Please use your psychic powers to diagnose my problem."

And I find it curious that most of these ejection threads are from new or newish users. How many can be attributed to agents from competing gun companies? And if you think this doesn't occur, you are extremely naive.

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Old 08-08-2012, 18:10   #23
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I heard a rumor that if you sing to a glock every night, in a soft motherly tone. It will eject the brass into a 4 inch squared pattern 3 feet to the right of the gun on dead center.................
Really? Mine typically passes out drunk before I can sing to it
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Old 08-08-2012, 18:18   #24
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Save yourself time and trouble and send it back to Glock. Get them to pay shipping, they'll do it.
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Old 08-08-2012, 19:05   #25
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Really? Mine typically passes out drunk before I can sing to it
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Old 08-08-2012, 19:12   #26
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Gen4 G21 just under 500 rounds


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Old 08-08-2012, 19:19   #27
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I have followed the Gen 4 G21 since it first came out, on several web sites, and this is the first negative comment I have seen. Mine has been flawless over several hundred rounds. Sorry to hear about yours. Unless we start seeing more experiences like this, I would guess yours (unfortunately) is a fluke. I would send it to Glock if it continues. Good luck.
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Old 08-08-2012, 20:04   #28
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Wait until you get to about 500 rounds then report back.
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Old 08-08-2012, 23:19   #29
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Do you clean your gun, specifically the breech face and extractor? Do you lube properly? What is your grip and stance? Can you post a video? What ammo are you using?

What's there to clean I was shooting the first 300 shots?
Yes I lubed it before I got started.
I use Weapon Sheild.
My grip is thumbs-forward, and it's definitely very tight.
Stance is Weaver.
No video.
I described the ammo in my second post, No. 4.

I'm not shooting this gun in anyway differently than I do my Gen 2's and 3's.

I have been shooting Glocks more or less since ca 1988 there should be no special babying required that I've never needed to do with the other generations anyway, especially when buying a weapon from a company that touts (and markets) reliability under any circumstances.

This gun is brand spanking new for crying out loud.

Your car sample makes no sense and is less than helpful to this conversation.
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Old 08-08-2012, 23:21   #30
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Wait until you get to about 500 rounds then report back.

OK, I will do that.
I should have it at about 1500-2000 rounds by this time next week.

Thanks
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Old 08-08-2012, 23:25   #31
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Gen4 G21 just under 500 rounds
EGHV0009 - YouTube
EGHV0011 - YouTube


Yes, this is about the same thing that's happening to me. No matter what brand name rounds I'm firing.
And if you have to shoot fast.........well......God help you from the skin burns.
Especially if you have to move fast to the right as you shoot. You are really moving into the hot brass showers.
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Old 08-09-2012, 00:06   #32
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What's there to clean I was shooting the first 300 shots?
Yes I lubed it before I got started.
I use Weapon Sheild.
My grip is thumbs-forward, and it's definitely very tight.
Stance is Weaver.
No video.
I described the ammo in my second post, No. 4.

I'm not shooting this gun in anyway differently than I do my Gen 2's and 3's.

I have been shooting Glocks more or less since ca 1988 there should be no special babying required that I've never needed to do with the other generations anyway, especially when buying a weapon from a company that touts (and markets) reliability under any circumstances.

This gun is brand spanking new for crying out loud.

Your car sample makes no sense and is less than helpful to this conversation.
Thanks for your opinion.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:13   #33
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Yes, this is about the same thing that's happening to me. No matter what brand name rounds I'm firing.
And if you have to shoot fast.........well......God help you from the skin burns.
Especially if you have to move fast to the right as you shoot. You are really moving into the hot brass showers.
Just be thankful it's a model 21 doing this to you and not a model 18.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:15   #34
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Gen4 G21 just under 500 rounds

EGHV0009 - YouTube

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Ohz Noes, someone actually took a video showing the FUBAR ejection pattern... I'm sure the Kool Aid drinkers will continue to deny and blame the shooter and ammo (everything but the gun).
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I have a 21 Gen4 and get erratic ejection when shooting weak range ammo - particularly S&B, American Eagle, and Lawman 230 grain FMJ. My 850fps hand loads and defense ammo ejects perfectly. I am not too worried about it.
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I remember when you were unlucky to get a bad Glock. Now you are lucky if you get a good one.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:48   #37
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Gen4 G21 just under 500 rounds

EGHV0009 - YouTube

EGHV0011 - YouTube
Are you shooting steel case ammo?
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:48   #38
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I have a 21 Gen4 and get erratic ejection when shooting weak range ammo - particularly S&B, American Eagle, and Lawman 230 grain FMJ. My 850fps hand loads and defense ammo ejects perfectly. I am not too worried about it.
I don't know about S&B, but American Eagle and Lawman are not exactly "weak" range ammo. American Eagle feels pretty stout to me out of my M&P 9 and G22 and Speer Lawman is loaded to feel similar to Speer Gold Dots. Now, Federal Champion and WWB, those are weak range ammo.
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I don't know about S&B, but American Eagle and Lawman are not exactly "weak" range ammo. American Eagle feels pretty stout to me out of my M&P 9 and G22 and Speer Lawman is loaded to feel similar to Speer Gold Dots. Now, Federal Champion and WWB, those are weak range ammo.
Not sure what to tell you - those are the brands of range ammo I have tried and they have weak ejection. I haven't seen any cases go to the left, like in the video above, but they will only clear my right arm by 6" or so at the most. When I shoot my defense rounds, Winchester Ranger 230gr, they fly a good ten feet to the right (like they should). My hand loads are 7 grains of Power Pistol with Berry's 230 grain RN FMJ and they certainly don't dribble out like the store bought loads.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:38   #40
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I have a 21 Gen4 and get erratic ejection when shooting weak range ammo - particularly S&B, American Eagle, and Lawman 230 grain FMJ. My 850fps hand loads and defense ammo ejects perfectly. I am not too worried about it.

I don't see how this is particularly weak ammo.

However none of this should matter.

Like I said my Gen 3 21 ejects any ammo just fine.
Whether it's my handloads or factory loads.
It could care less.

My 1911 which I took with me to the range on the first day I shot the 21 ejected all ammo just perfectly. Much more to the front, never had to worry about it. And I was shooting the exact same amo.
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