[Gasoil4ever]

Hi Guys,

I have found very little information on the Serbu Super Shorty and already went through everything i found via the "search" function.

i have moved to a country where i can own a shotgun

As the paper work is reallllyyyyyyyy long (already 8 months, but what to do hey ?)

I have time to think about my next toy.

The first use will be personal / home defense.

I really like the Serbu Super Shorty my thoughts :

-3 shots of 12ga + 6 extra on a side carrier are enough.
- it's really compact so better for in house use, driving around
- its cool and not so usual

What do you guys think ? Go for a SSS or a Mossberg 500 Cruiser (or like) ?

Budget is not really a matter (i'll have to pay for DHL + 49% duties...)

[MrMurphy]

14" barrel, five to seven shot capacity and a collapsing or fixed stock would do better.

The Serbu is basically a breaching gun, or a last ditch bodyguard weapon.

[NMGlocker]

Fun range toy and has some use as a hotel room gun and anti-car jacking gun but a "real" shotgun is better for general defense purposes.

Serbu has a 60-90 day build time.
Then you have 2-3 months for the dealer transfer.
Finally there's the 6 month Form 4 transfer to you.
So keep in mind that it can take up to a year from the time you order to the time you take possession.

[Victoriagotagun]

Originally Posted by MrMurphy

14" barrel, five to seven shot capacity and a collapsing or fixed stock would do better.

The Serbu is basically a breaching gun, or a last ditch bodyguard weapon.

I would also go with a 14" barrel 870 or 590A1.

Originally Posted by NMGlocker

Serbu has a 60-90 day build time.
Then you have 2-3 months for the dealer transfer.
Finally there's the 6 month Form 4 transfer to you.
So keep in mind that it can take up to a year from the time you order to the time you take possession.

The OP isn't in the U.S.

[G26S239]

Hi Gasoil good to see you back.

[WoodenPlank]

Agreed that a 12-14" barreled shotgun with a stock would be a much better option. More velocity, more capacity, better control.

[Nalapombu]

It sounds like the OP wants a Super Shorty....he's thought about it and wants to make it his next toy. Congrats on getting to a country that gives you the RIGHT to own what you want.

The Super Shorty would certainly be a great tool for protection in your house or vehicle, if allowed. I have read quite a few threads where those that own them are really happy with them. There are all kinds of videos on YOUTUBE.COM showing them off. Check them out.

Like the others have said, you would probably be better off with a longer barrel like a 12 or 14 inch. More capacity, better control, and so on. I also would have to believe that if you were to get a standard Mossberg Cruiser in 12 gauge or a Remington 87- with 18 inch barrel, it would cost much less money. There wouldn't be any custom work, machining or really expensive shipping and paperwork additions like there would be with a Short Barreled Shotgun, then again I don't know anything about your gun laws.

I would check and see what the cost difference is, then if you decided that you really want the Serbu Super Shorty, I'd start communicating with Mr. Serbu and asking some questions of him about getting one of his beauties.

CONGRATS and I hope you get just exactly what you are wanting. Let us know how it goes and remember that PICTURES are MANDATORY when you get a shotgun like that.

Nalajr

[Gasoil4ever]

Originally Posted by G26S239

Hi Gasoil good to see you back.

Long time no see ! I've had time to change continent since last time

Originally Posted by WoodenPlank

Agreed that a 12-14" barreled shotgun with a stock would be a much better option. More velocity, more capacity, better control.

Ok, and where to i get a 12-14" barrel from ? I checked @mossberg.com and it seems they don't sell any. Should i go custom ?

Originally Posted by Nalapombu

It sounds like the OP wants a Super Shorty....he's thought about it and wants to make it his next toy. Congrats on getting to a country that gives you the RIGHT to own what you want.

Like the others have said, you would probably be better off with a longer barrel like a 12 or 14 inch. More capacity, better control, and so on. I also would have to believe that if you were to get a standard Mossberg Cruiser in 12 gauge or a Remington 87- with 18 inch barrel, it would cost much less money. There wouldn't be any custom work, machining or really expensive shipping and paperwork additions like there would be with a Short Barreled Shotgun, then again I don't know anything about your gun laws.

PICTURES are MANDATORY when you get a shotgun like that.

Nalajr

It's not really that you have the right to own what you want... and i have barely no "rights" i am a foreigner. But in the case you can justify it is needed for your safety you "might" be given the right to purchase and carry a gun.

I don't want a SSS i would "like" one. But assuming i have little to no experience with pump shotguns which are prohibited in France i thought i'd first ask people who know more.

The paper work is not that longer... i need to get a US federal export license anyways and as long as i can justify i can legally import it they will let me export it. And there are no such things as laws on the length of a barrel here

A federal export license is 390$... + 49% import duties + DHL + permit cost... cost is not really an issue in the end... It's an opportunity : 1) for my safety 2) because i wouldn't be able to do so in my home country.

The only issue i have is that when (if?) i get my importation licence i only have 2 months to get the gun imported otherwise it is not valid anymore...

And when all this is finished... in the end it needs to serve the purpose i did all this for : home safety ...

[MrMurphy]

In the US the minimum standard length for shotgun barrels is 18" without federal involvement.

Thus anything shorter is generally marketed to Law Enforcement, who still have to do the paperwork, but it tends to be a bit easier. Both Mossberg and Remington make 14" and shorter models, just search for their law enforcement pages.

[WoodenPlank]

Originally Posted by Gasoil4ever

Ok, and where to i get a 12-14" barrel from ? I checked @mossberg.com and it seems they don't sell any. Should i go custom ?

Anything made in the US is going to be difficult to export on a single weapon basis. If it is an NFA item (Shotguns under 18" barrel), it is going to be VERY difficult to export, due to US arms trade laws. This is also going to make it very expensive. Most shotgun companies do not list their NFA shotguns on their main pages, as they are pretty heavily restricted.

Honestly, you would be best served looking at what you can acquire in your country of residence, and going from there. For example, getting a Remington 870 that comes with a factory 4 or 5 shot (can't remember what's more common) magazine, then changing that out for a shorted barrel that's ordered individually online - assuming doing this would be legal in your country.

[Gasoil4ever]

Originally Posted by WoodenPlank

Anything made in the US is going to be difficult to export on a single weapon basis. If it is an NFA item (Shotguns under 18" barrel), it is going to be VERY difficult to export, due to US arms trade laws. This is also going to make it very expensive. Most shotgun companies do not list their NFA shotguns on their main pages, as they are pretty heavily restricted.

Honestly, you would be best served looking at what you can acquire in your country of residence, and going from there. For example, getting a Remington 870 that comes with a factory 4 or 5 shot (can't remember what's more common) magazine, then changing that out for a shorted barrel that's ordered individually online - assuming doing this would be legal in your country.

Thanks for your feedback.

It is not that difficult to export from the US at all. As long as you have the paper work done correctly. The 2 or 3 gunshops in the US who are specialised in export help you very well through the process.

Exporting large quantities for a company / state might be difficult, exporting one shotgun + one hand gun for an individual with all the local legal autorisation is really not complicated. This is from my point of view... being french i am used to insane paperwork to have access to a firearm, so i do find the US way quite straight forward.

Of course it would be more simple if i could buy locally... if i don't it's only because you can buy nothing... or the little you can have is at insane pricing (and no pump actions, no handguns, etc). FYI there is only ONE gunshop in the all country that mainly only sell ammos for hunters and a few side by side 12ga...

Anyways i might stick to a 18,5 barrel Mossberg this will sure make it easier.

What as changed now is that it's almost impossible to buy online for export. I used to buy all my Glocks accessories and parts from US Shops, now they don't sell anymore abroad... Unless you do all the paper work... which i will do for a Shotgun or a Glock... not for a spare magazine or Ghost Rocket connector...

Thanks for the advice anyways.

[WoodenPlank]

Originally Posted by Gasoil4ever

Thanks for your feedback.

It is not that difficult to export from the US at all. As long as you have the paper work done correctly. The 2 or 3 gunshops in the US who are specialised in export help you very well through the process.

NFA items comes with their own additional headaches, however. There's US State Department paperwork that has to be filed, ATF paperwork, etc. Im not all that familiar with the process of exporting non-NFA firearms, but I know getting an NFA item out of the country can be an ordeal.

All of that paperwork for parts is due to ITARs. Even weapon components are now subject to it, hence the pain.

[attrapereves]

How are the gun laws in Cameroun? I'm thinking about moving there in a few years to teach English temporarily.