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Old 11-27-2012, 16:12   #1
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How many guys train on a 9mm glock and carry something larger/

With the price of ammo was thinking about training on a Glock 19. I carry a 21 and a 23. Will I be at a loss for doing this?
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Old 11-27-2012, 16:40   #2
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I shoot the 17 & 19 a lot more than my carry 21/23/35 but still shoot all of the calibers as much as possible. Not a true break down per se, but I would estimate it 60% 9mm, 40% .40 & 45 per month.
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Old 11-27-2012, 16:41   #3
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I feel the complete opposite. If I were to train with a firearm that was quiter and had less recoil then I will produce slower follow up shots and be surprised by my carry weapon in a bad situation. Now I think any pistol training is better than none, but I also think the more rounds I put through my everyday carry weapon the more confident I am.
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Old 11-27-2012, 16:47   #4
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I shoot my carry weapon,Glock 30SF, more than my other guns including my new Range Gun which is a G34, but here lately I been stocking up on 9mm so I can shoot it more when going to the range... but no matter what I shoot I still shoot my G30 the best...
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Old 11-27-2012, 16:58   #5
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My guess is that some can improve their skills more than adequately by shooting a smaller caliber. Apparently over the years some have even been taught fairly effectively by using a .22 rifle and/or .22 pistol.

That said I would guess that when the goal is to reduce the size of the average group by 1/2 inch at 25 yards or to reduce the time between shots by a fraction of a second practice with the bigger caliber is more important than when the goal is to reduce the size of the groups from nine inches to five inches at twelve yards. But that is just a guess.
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Old 11-27-2012, 17:03   #6
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A few hours ago I fired 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP.
Shot 1 Glock, 1 Sig Sauer and 2 Heckler & Koch pistols.
Try to cycle through all my carry guns regularly.

But I favor the HK45C and always shoot that gun.
And have been shooting more 45 ACP than anything else.

Strangely I actually do the opposite.
Train mostly with a 45.
And carry five days a week a Glock G27 40-9mm.
The 45 is my weekend gun.

Never pretended to be mainstream.

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Old 11-27-2012, 17:25   #7
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I'm going to get a G19 to practice with. Right now I use my wife's 19 for GSSF but I carry a G30. I figure you can practice drawing and firing and work on your form more with 9mm being so cheap. I figure I will shoot the 9 more but make it a point to still fire the 30 to stay used to how that pistol shoots. The nice thing is the controls and triggers are the same.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:03   #8
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Train with whatever you will shoot most, and carry whatever you will carry most. If they are the same pistol, great. If not, no big deal as long as you do some of your training with your carry piece using your carry ammo.

It is easy to get lulled into the fantasy that real world engagements go down like an IDPA match. Things like fractions of a second between follow up shots aren't going to matter as much as where you put them, for example. The fundamentals are the same whether you're shooting a G19 or a G23.

Unless you're switching from a 380 to a 44 magnum, you won't be surprised by any recoil differences between your training pistol and your carry pistol if you're actually using it to defend yourself. Under stress, you probably won't notice anything about recoil, noise, how many shots you took, etc. That part of your brain is out of the "fight or flight" loop.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:22   #9
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:39   #10
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Back in the dark ages we practiced with 38 Special and carried .357 Mag duty loads. We saw the error of our ways and began practicing with equivalent power ammo, although we mostly used ball ammo for practice and qualification, using our duty ammo once a year to rotate our ammo. I think this is still a good practice.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:41   #11
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I only shoot 9mm these days. I can't really afford to feed my .45's, so until I get my reloading setup ready, I'll continue to shoot/carry 9mm, because I'm just getting practice.

I do shoot my Glock 21 better than any other gun, though.
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:12   #12
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I'm going against what I said earlier, I can't feel a difference between shooting a G19 compared to a G23.
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Old 11-27-2012, 20:27   #13
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I carry a 23 but shoot more 9mm, but then again I also shoot USPSA with a 34 so I tend to train with it more. I take a couple of the 40 cal Glocks to the range one out of three trips. 50/50 ball and defensive. Seems to work for me.
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Old 11-27-2012, 21:21   #14
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I carry a G23 and practice with a G19 mostly. My trigger control has improved quite a bit and I can see the difference in accuracy when I shoot the G23. My issued G23 has over 4500 rounds through it in 12 months. My G19 has about twice that!
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Old 11-27-2012, 21:31   #15
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I shoot 9mm to work out the kinks in how I get to my gun while running to cover, fixing feed issues, malfunction drills/etc. None of that stuff needs 45GAP JHPs or .357SIG JHPs.
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Old 11-27-2012, 21:42   #16
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I feel the complete opposite. If I were to train with a firearm that was quiter and had less recoil then I will produce slower follow up shots and be surprised by my carry weapon in a bad situation.

Do you train with your carry ammo? Isn't that expensive?

I carry Winchester Ranger 127 +p+ in my G19. It has noticeably more noise, recoil and muzzle blast than the cheap FMJ I use for training/practice.

The difference between the cheap training ammo I use in my G19 and the carry ammo for it is at least as much as the difference between the cheap training ammo and either my G21 or G23 carry ammo.

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Old 11-27-2012, 21:48   #17
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I have tested a lot of my SD ammo but I mostly shoot medium-full power 180gr FMJ reloads. The velocity and pressure should be the same as my SD ammo. I have reloaded some Speer GD but they aren't for SD.
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Old 11-27-2012, 22:20   #18
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9mm practice

g27 for carry.
G27/26 LWD conversion for practice

Later added a G17 for IDPA.

Originally INTENDED to practice with 9 and carry .40 but...

Each pistol FEELS different.

So I've been doing a bunch of shooting .40 with the 27 and am feeling much more comfortable with it.

I will try to achieve the next level in IDPA with the 17 first, and then go back and follow up with the 27.

Sometimes I just shoot what I feel like at the time!

Did that answer your question?
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:35   #19
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I dont think it can hurt a thing as long as you mix in a little training with your 21-- i have both the 19 and 21. They feel similar enough-we are not talking a radical difference here as if you were switching between 2 totally different platforms.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:21   #20
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Hey I just noticed who started this thread! Welcome back.
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