[Detectorist]

This guy lost 9 years of his life.

http://itsybitsysteps.com/girl-chang...ars-dad-freed/

[Dukeboy01]

Originally Posted by Detectorist

Have you ever encountered a questionable rape accusation?

Pretty much an average of twice a week every week I've worked for the last eight years.

<- works sex crimes in an urban setting

I gotta figure that an awful lot of detail is being left out of the linked story. That being said, sounds like it was ultimately a "He said, she said."

I don't charge those. Especially when the victim is a troubled teen.

[Cav]

All to often.

I hate working sexual assaults/rapes.

I would almost say is 50/50 if it hapened how the victim says. I have no doubt that many go unreported, but many victims lie about what happens and with their lies I end up finding people or facts to confront them. Some go to jail, but as a whole my agency does not like to arrest "victims".

[Cav]

Originally Posted by Dukeboy01

Pretty much an average of twice a week every week I've worked for the last eight years.

<- works sex crimes in an urban setting

I gotta figure that an awful lot of detail is being left out of the linked story. That being said, sounds like it was ultimately a "He said, she said."

I don't charge those. Especially when the victim is a troubled teen.

We video tape the child and forward to our DA's office what info we gather.

If find it funny when I have cases with real evidence and I get told it is all circumstantial evidence and there is no PC to mak an arrest and I say that the evidence gives me the PC to make an arrest and then I can interogate as the evidence all point to a set person. No. cant do it.

But if a victim says they were sexually assaulted by a set person, then thats good enough to arrest with no evidence...

[Dukeboy01]

Originally Posted by Cav

I would almost say is 50/50 if it hapened how the victim says.

I'd say that ratio increases to 90/10 that it didn't happen the way the victim says when you're dealing with adult victims, in my experience. Kids are more honest, particularly the younger they are.

The defense attorneys and the pro- pedophile MSM will claim that younger kids (under 8 years of age) will make up fantastical stories and can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. That's crap. They may believe in ghosts and fairies, but there's no way that they are going to imagine how it feels to be penetrated or how an uncircumcised male member feels in their hand. That's the kind of information a good forensic interviewer knows how to bring out.

Now kids who are the age that the girl in the linked story was (10- 13) you've got to watch, but I'd still say that they're usually more honest than not when they bring this kind of stuff up. They're old enough to be ashamed about what's happened, so, generally speaking, they aren't going to talk about it if they don't have to.

Allegations from teenagers need to be vetted very, very carefully.

[blueiron]

Good grief, yes!

Last instance -

Check on a suspicious vehicle in a church parking lot. Underage couple gets caught while doing the nasty. The young girl who happens to be part of a pious well to do church family, suddenly claims rape. Young man met her over the internet and has zero criminal record, no one has any defensive injuries, and no weapon[s]. He said that she wanted to meet for sex.

Ten hours, some very upset parents on both sides, and a search warrant for the girl's computer later... she is found to have been promising, through a lot of e-mails and IMs, more graphic and twisted sexual favors to that young man than three adult movies combined. The once outraged girl's family has to recant and apologize to everyone within sight and the boy's life was nearly ruined.

I have zero sympathy for sexual predators and rapists, but a woman who is willing to send a man to prison because she is a hypocritical tart deserves to be _____-slapped into the next calendar year.

[ateamer]

I think that only one rape report I ever took was legit. The rest were all consentual and the "victim" was either cheating on her old man or woke up sober and had a change of heart.

Why we don't arrest and prosecute them for making a false report is something I'll never know. Seriously, I will never know. They told me to stop asking and that I am not seeing the big picture. I can't wait, four and a half more years and there will be no consequences for speaking my mind.

[S.O.Interceptor]

ALL THE TIME!!!!!!

When I was in patrol I forwarded everything to CID and never really followed up on many of them. Now that I'm in CID, I keep up with most of the cases. I'd say 9 out of every 10 are completely made up, most of them involve some "buyer's remorse". Fortunately for the suspects, who turn into victims quite often, in this day and age almost everything is electronically recorded. So those text and emails before and after the deed usual absolve the accused.

[Panzergrenadier1979]

Yes.

I despise hearing the graphic details of a young and tearful "victim's" sex life after finding out, thru investigation, that she was the aggressor during the entire encounter.

I just recently work a legit sexual assault case and the friggin' victim suddenly decided not to press charges AFTER calling the police and having multiple interviews. It seems she would rather go to college in the fall and not have to deal with coming to court.

[Big House]

Have you ever had a parent, of the "victim", tell you that they doubt that it happened and to press the "victim" hard?

[Dukeboy01]

Originally Posted by Big House

Have you ever had a parent, of the "victim", tell you that they doubt that it happened and to press the "victim" hard?

Yep. And sometimes I enlist the parent to help me do it by playing a "badder" bad cop than I could get away with.

[Dukeboy01]

Originally Posted by ateamer

Why we don't arrest and prosecute them for making a false report is something I'll never know. Seriously, I will never know. They told me to stop asking and that I am not seeing the big picture. I can't wait, four and a half more years and there will be no consequences for speaking my mind.

We charge false report if we can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt or close to it. In other words we try to go a couple of steps beyond probable cause before we drop the hammer on an alleged victim. Usually I bring them back in and give them one last chance to tell the truth or be charged. Most of them drop the crap at that point.

As a result we don't do it very often. I charged it three times last year and I've only charged it once so far this year.

[Dragoon44]

Many times, fortunately their story unraveled under further questioning and no one was even arrested much less went to prison.

[Sam Spade]

Frankly, it's easier to count the valid cases than the bogus ones.

[Trigger Finger]

It seemed like 8 out of 10 rape reports in the south end of Los Angeles turned out to be business disputes!!

[PattonT]

I can't think of but one that was a true a legit case out of about 10. So 1 out of 10, seriously!

[nikerret]

The one that stands out the most is the first one I investigated. Fourteen year old girl (who doesn't look 14, looks 20) says boy from school raped her. She names a different boy as her boyfriend and he's on the way to kick this other guy's ass. Talk to the guys, both call her their girlfriend. She just got caught slutting around.

Turns out, she sent a nineteen year old to prison for "raping" her the year before. I can't help but think that lying whorebag didn't set him up, too.

Her parents were skeptical about both allegations, but the age difference, alone, was enough to screw the first guy. I doubt he had a clue she was underage. Heck, I'd seen her out IN THE BARS after I came on shift at midnight (before I met her through investigation). Anyone would think she belonged there.

I hope nothing good ever happens to her.

For those who have really been through that, I hope them the best heeling possible and the ones who did it can burn in hell, with the false accusers.

[JohnnyReb]

The vast majority are false. Its really sad that its like that too.

A few years ago, we had an inmate cry that his cellmate raped him. There was some bleeding to his rear, so he was taken to the hospital where they concluded that his injuries were inconsistant with a rape.

As it turns out, he staged the whole deal with a flex pen, and penetrated himself with it until he began bleeding.

[ateamer]

Originally Posted by Trigger Finger

It seemed like 8 out of 10 rape reports in the south end of Los Angeles turned out to be business disputes!!

Back when I was new (late 80s), a local hooker made a rape report. She was sent in for the sexual assalt exam and halfway through, the doc came out and said don't bother going any further with this one. She was claiming she'd only been with one guy in the last week, but they collected four ounces of evidence from her.

[JimBianchi]

Yes I have.

It can ruin lives.

Enough said.

[Dragoon44]

I learned my lesson about false accusations while still a rookie. Got a call of a 14 YO girl claiming she had been raped. See seemed sincere and crying and shook up. the alleged rapist was a local punk thug well known to us.

Another officer handled the call so the rest of us fanned out to find the punk. I hit a local arcade where he was known to hang out. One kid looked at my face and just before I got out of hearing range I heard him tell another kid, "Thank God he isn't looking for me".

We snagged the kid about an hour later but by the time we brought him in the real story had come out. The girl was having consensual sex with the kid in a field next to her house when momma came looking and calling for her.

She panicked and started screaming and claimed she had been raped.

[blueiron]

Originally Posted by ateamer

Back when I was new (late 80s), a local hooker made a rape report. She was sent in for the sexual assalt exam and halfway through, the doc came out and said don't bother going any further with this one. She was claiming she'd only been with one guy in the last week, but they collected four ounces of evidence from her.

That guy was Secretariat.

[cowboywannabe]

50/50 in my area....

[CAcop]

I have a college in my town where people do lots of drugs and alcohol. Whenever I works graves on Sat and Sun morning I see plenty of walks of shame just after sunrise. I often wonder how many will report it in the following days.

There have been a few legit ones. One was straight up usage of date rape drugs but since we didn't get it in the urine the DA no filed. Then a few years later the guy got caught doing it to a few more women and they finally did something to the guy.

Another was a porn star that got raped. She also happened to be a sex registrant for doing some teenage boy. The DA was not going to file until the DA handling the case watched her when she picked the suspect out of a line up. Apparently she came unglued. We video tape photo line ups for that reason.

[ateamer]

Originally Posted by CAcop

The DA was not going to file until the DA handling the case watched her when she picked the suspect out of a line up. Apparently she came unglued. We video tape photo line ups for that reason.

That is a fantastic idea.