Dirty Brass After Tumbling - Page 2

fredj338 · 07-02-2012, 17:40

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Originally Posted by unclebob

The SS media to me is only good if you want clean primer pockets and want the inside of the case looking like the outside. I don’t think the cases would get any shiner than in the way I clean the brass. I like shiny brass. No it will not attack women but at my age and the pills I take it would not do me any good anyway even if it did.

Understand, I just don't like the extra work involved before & after ss cleaning to mess with it. Besides, Jack will tell you, the way to attract the ladies is learn to dance, clean brass has no affect. Now diamonds, another story all together.

unclebob · 07-02-2012, 18:06

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Originally Posted by fredj338

Besides, Jack will tell you, the way to attract the ladies is learn to dance, clean brass has no affect. Now diamonds, another story all together.

Don’t dance and I don’t play in my own back yard. So I guess that leaves me with shiny brass.

GioaJack · 07-02-2012, 18:38

The woman who is impressed with shiny brass is the same woman who's going to take all your guns in the divorce.

Although dancing does indeed attract the ladies, (I've certainly met a lot more ladies in a few years of dancing than I have in 50 years of shooting), one must be cognizant of the fact that real men never line dance...EVER!!!

Jack

unclebob · 07-02-2012, 18:43

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Originally Posted by GioaJack

The woman who is impressed with shiny brass is the same woman who's going to take all your guns in the divorce.

Wouldn’t know about that, have only been married once.

MudFlap379 · 07-02-2012, 19:54

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Originally Posted by GioaJack

real men never line dance...EVER!!!

Jack

Couldn't have said it better!

Fairshake · 07-06-2012, 11:08

I'm a SASS cowboy shooter who shoots nothing but black powder cases. Those cases have quite a bit of black on them. Be careful if you are using any cases like this because if left outdoors they will weaken and make crack or bust when reused. They will have a slight patina with a greenish color.
I've reloaded since 1969 and until I purchased my Thumblers Tumbler Model B high speed for the second time about 6 years ago and started using the ceramic media with water and Dawn/OXY I was not getting clean bright cases.
Using these items I had my brass looking as if it had just been purchased even after 10 or more loadings.
I also use the new SS media along with the Lemi-Shine and soap and it cleans the insides even brighter. In fact if you use too much of the Lemi Shine it will remove the nickel from any of these type cases you may have.
It's best to use clean cases for several reasons such as safety, as you can't always see a cracked fatigued case through the dirt and stains.
If you already have a rotary type tumbler then buy the SS pins from a company by the name of STM. They even sell the Lemi Shine for just $5.
The SSpins are magnetic and the easy way to pick them from the cases is with a big magnet.

attrapereves · 07-06-2012, 12:10

I tumble my handgun brass for about 2 hours in crushed walnut media. I also put a bit of Nu-Finish car polish and a dryer sheet (helps eliminate dust) in with it. They come out really shiny!

Fairshake · 07-07-2012, 05:24

They may be shiny as you say but that will only be on the outer surface. I used walnut hulls and corn cob media and even a special media in a cement mixer modified to clean brass by the thousands and I never saw brass that is as nice after being cleaned in a rotary type of tumbler with either ceramic or stainless steel pins. This is done as I posted with Dawn/OXY, water, Lemi-Shine. Either media will work but the small SSpins do clean the PP better because of the size. They also don't become clogged inside the case as the ceramic has a tendency to do. Fairshake

racer11 · 07-08-2012, 22:50

Speaking of the SSpins for cleaning brass,,,can I use a tumbler that I use dry media in,? Or must I use one of the tumblers that is of the wet type tumbler.

Fairshake · 07-09-2012, 12:30

The use of the pins requires that they be used with water and Dawn or other soap and Lemi-Shine. This would not work in a vibratory type of tumbler.
They are meant to be used in the rotary type of tumblers such as the Thumblers Model B or others that have water proof drums. Take care Fairshake

Houdini · 07-10-2012, 15:13

do you use polish in it?

tkglazie · 07-10-2012, 15:50

50-50 walnut/corncob with a little nufinish and some dryer fabric scraps works great for me in the FA tumbler. 45-60 minutes is just about right.

Fairshake · 07-10-2012, 17:11

Houndi, Everytime I post this information I always get someone who comes back with the standard answer that was posted by plenty of other posters.
When I speak about cleaning brass that I shoot, it's brass that has been fired with 100% real black powder. It's also a good process if you have some very bad stained brass from being outdoors for long periods and is tarnished black. My posting was in answer to cleaning brass with media such as the stainless steel pins that a lot of loaders use.
For that use, a vibratory type tumbler with any media you want to use and with what ever polish you want to add will not clean the cases fired with Black powder.
You may use what you wish if you are cleaning cases that has been used with that new powder that is only about 110 years old. I have some cartridges that are older than that.
I will also repeat this one more time. You will not receive the results that are possible if you try to use the ceramic media or the stainless steel pins in a vibratory type tumbler. You must use a rotary. Now watch and see how many will post but I use.................. Fairshake

unclebob · 07-10-2012, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Fairshake

Houndi, Everytime I post this information I always get someone who comes back with the standard answer that was posted by plenty of other posters.
When I speak about cleaning brass that I shoot, it's brass that has been fired with 100% real black powder. It's also a good process if you have some very bad stained brass from being outdoors for long periods and is tarnished black. My posting was in answer to cleaning brass with media such as the stainless steel pins that a lot of loaders use.
For that use, a vibratory type tumbler with any media you want to use and with what ever polish you want to add will not clean the cases fired with Black powder.
You may use what you wish if you are cleaning cases that has been used with that new powder that is only about 110 years old. I have some cartridges that are older than that.
I will also repeat this one more time. You will not receive the results that are possible if you try to use the ceramic media or the stainless steel pins in a vibratory type tumbler. You must use a rotary. Now watch and see how many will post but I use.................. Fairshake

What do really expect people to read all of the posts?

Black powder isn’t that the funny stuff that is just like smokeless powder but just puts out a bunch of smoke. It cleans up just like all of the rest of the guns and cases. You need to try XY mixed with W. It makes my 9mm brass so shiny that you could shave looking at the case.

Rich22 · 07-11-2012, 09:02

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Originally Posted by gwalchmai

Try soaking the brass in one cup of white vinegar dissolved in one gallon of warm water for half an hour, then rinse in cold clean water. Let it dry and then tumble again.

I've done this for range pickups that had been in mud for a long time and the results were amazing.

Tried this. Surprisingly only worked for about 20% of them. I am thinking the other ones are just extremely old and ready for that great brass bucket in the sky.

F106 Fan · 07-11-2012, 09:23

If the discolored brass is clean (inside and out) but not shiny, load 'em and lose 'em.

Richard

gwalchmai · 07-11-2012, 10:16

I agree. If the vinegar doesn't work they'll still shoot. Heck, some of the philistines never even polish their brass...

scccdoc · 07-11-2012, 10:31

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Originally Posted by gwalchmai

Try soaking the brass in one cup of white vinegar dissolved in one gallon of warm water for half an hour, then rinse in cold clean water. Let it dry and then tumble again.

I've done this for range pickups that had been in mud for a long time and the results were amazing.

Please enter this into "Trcks and tips for reloading" (I misspelled, lol). Also, what is "ss" media? Thanks , DOC

unclebob · 07-11-2012, 11:48

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Originally Posted by scccdoc

Please enter this into "Trcks and tips for reloading" (I misspelled, lol). Also, what is "ss" media? Thanks , DOC

Stainless Steel.

unclebob · 07-11-2012, 11:51

Stainless Tumbling Media - YouTube

byf43 · 07-11-2012, 12:10

Crappy cellphone pic of 7.62x51mm brass, after it's been tumbled (crushed walnut shells) and lubing and sizing, then ran for 30 minutes in "Thumbler' Tumbler" red rouge polishing media.

Not only is it shiny. . . . it's FEDERAL brass!!