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Old 06-28-2012, 09:04   #1
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124 +P Gold dot velocity/G26

Anyone chrono'd this? I just picked up a Gen 4 yesterday. Should be able to carry it easier than my G23. Thanks.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:13   #2
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Stephan Camp, before his untimely death, tested that round in the G26 and came up with 1226fps. Hunt his site which is still active. He seemed a really good guy who contributed much on many issues. I think his favorite was the Browning HP and snub nosed .38. His site is worth the trip. Best.

I was wrong. The round was the Winchester 127gr +P+ and the velocity was 1246 per Camp's "Glock 26 velocities". Best.

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Old 06-28-2012, 12:19   #3
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1226 fps seems a little high for a G26. I chronographed some NATO 9mm ammunition (roughly equivalent to a 124 +P round) side by side in different barrel lengths from everything from a 10.5" 9mm AR to a 3.5" barrel G26. In the G26 I averaged 1136 fps from a 10 shot string. I could have swore I did a chrono comparison for 124+P GDHP. If I find it, I will post it.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:55   #4
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1226 fps seems a little high for a G26. I chronographed some NATO 9mm ammunition (roughly equivalent to a 124 +P round) side by side in different barrel lengths from everything from a 10.5" 9mm AR to a 3.5" barrel G26. In the G26 I averaged 1136 fps from a 10 shot string. I could have swore I did a chrono comparison for 124+P GDHP. If I find it, I will post it.
I doubt that too. Speer rates it @ 1220fps in a 4" min. bbl, I can get that in my G17 but closer to 1150fps in my G26.
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Old 06-28-2012, 14:11   #5
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Ok, so I'm not going crazy, yet... I found one of my old notebooks where I did chronograph some GDHP 124 +P short barrel ammunition from a G26.

Results from a 9 shot string (one round didn't register):

Avg. Velocity: 1199 fps
E.S: 37 fps
S.D: 11.10
Avg. Energy: 356 ft. lbs.

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Old 06-28-2012, 14:22   #6
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G21MAN,

Just for perspecitve a box of;
Hornady "custom" ammunition
124g XTP HP
Velocity - Box listed @ 1,110 fps
OAL - 1.060"

Sunny & 73 degrees almost no wind;

my average out of my G19 was - 1,134.2 fps
my average out of my G26 was - 1,058.2 fps

Now I know your talking "+P" but 1,220 fps out of a G26...? wow if that doesn't sting your hand nothing will.
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Old 06-28-2012, 18:19   #7
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Now I know your talking "+P" but 1,220 fps out of a G26...? wow if that doesn't sting your hand nothing will.
Whatever velocity it's achieving it's quite mild actually.
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Old 06-28-2012, 18:21   #8
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Ok, so I'm not going crazy, yet... I found one of my old notebooks where I did chronograph some GDHP 124 +P short barrel ammunition from a G26.

Results from a 9 shot string (one round didn't register):

Avg. Velocity: 1199 fps
E.S: 37 fps
S.D: 11.10
Avg. Energy: 356 ft. lbs.

Cheers!
That muzzle energy seems low. I calculate it should be around 396? At 1220 fps it's supposed to be just over 400 and there is no way a 21 fps loss is going to cut 50 ft lbs.

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Old 06-28-2012, 19:01   #9
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Anyone chrono'd this? I just picked up a Gen 4 yesterday. Should be able to carry it easier than my G23. Thanks.
Speer 124gr.+P GDHP
Hi=1216 fps. Lo=1170 fps. Avg=1192 fps. Es=46 fps. Sd=15 fps.
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Old 06-28-2012, 20:44   #10
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Go with Underwood's 124gr GD +p+. I get 1,230fps out of a 3" barrel. That is factory for the Speer 124gr GD +p out of a 4" barrel. You should get over 1,250fps from the 3.5" Glock barrel. Also, it is the most accurate 9mm ammo I have ever seen.
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:42   #11
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That muzzle energy seems low. I calculate it should be around 396? At 1220 fps it's supposed to be just over 400 and there is no way a 21 fps loss is going to cut 50 ft lbs.
That's possible. I plugged in the numbers into an excel spreadsheet that I had built that is based on 10-shot strings. With leaving one data point out, it could artificially deflate the energy portion of the calculations. Here's the raw data if you wanted to play around with it, as I don't have the time to right now. All are in fps.

1201
1219
1190
1198
1182
1199
1202
1210
1190
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Also, it is the most accurate 9mm ammo I have ever seen.
Details please?
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That's possible. I plugged in the numbers into an excel spreadsheet that I had built that is based on 10-shot strings. With leaving one data point out, it could artificially deflate the energy portion of the calculations. Here's the raw data if you wanted to play around with it, as I don't have the time to right now. All are in fps.

1201
1219
1190
1198
1182
1199
1202
1210
1190
Yeah it sounds like the energy result was minus one shot, hence it was
10% low.

I'm just happy that the little G26 can still hit 1200 fps with Gold Dots.

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Old 06-29-2012, 08:55   #14
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G21MAN,

Just for perspecitve a box of;
Hornady "custom" ammunition
124g XTP HP
Velocity - Box listed @ 1,110 fps
OAL - 1.060"

Sunny & 73 degrees almost no wind;

my average out of my G19 was - 1,134.2 fps
my average out of my G26 was - 1,058.2 fps

Now I know your talking "+P" but 1,220 fps out of a G26...? wow if that doesn't sting your hand nothing will.
The BlackHills 124gr+P XTP makes 1220fps in several G26 I have run it thru.
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Old 07-03-2012, 17:52   #15
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Do you think it matters if I picked up regular 124gr +P Gold Dots for both my G19 and G26? Or do I have to buy the short barrels for the 26?
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Do you think it matters if I picked up regular 124gr +P Gold Dots for both my G19 and G26? Or do I have to buy the short barrels for the 26?
The regular loads are just fine. Besides, for the price you can practice more with the non short barrel loads.
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Old 07-03-2012, 21:19   #17
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The BlackHills 124gr+P XTP makes 1220fps in several G26 I have run it thru.
I always wondered why Black Hills self-defense JHP ammo was so expensive, but re-reading some publications these past few days I've come across several endorsements regarding its match grade accuracy and excellent velocity, combined with modern hollow point bullets.

Is Black Hills ammo an under-appreciated value in your opinion, fred?
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