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06-27-2012, 19:50
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Miami cannibal toxicology screening
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06-27-2012, 19:57
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Then that weed must have been some good stuff... to cause a case of the munchies that powerful.
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06-27-2012, 19:58
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He probably didn't know his dinner contained THC/cannabinoids. 
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06-27-2012, 20:27
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Strong paraquat.
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06-27-2012, 20:37
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I'm curious about the test conducted and whether it was capable of detecting all of the various compounds in the "bath salts" family. There seems to be a new variant coming on the scene all the time. The out of state lab that we use to test for synthetics re-publishes the list of what they can test for fairly regularly.
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06-27-2012, 20:52
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One very serious case of the munchies!
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Unfortunately, with all the advances in medical science, there still just isnt any cure for "stupid".
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06-27-2012, 23:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBigBR
I'm curious about the test conducted and whether it was capable of detecting all of the various compounds in the "bath salts" family. There seems to be a new variant coming on the scene all the time. The out of state lab that we use to test for synthetics re-publishes the list of what they can test for fairly regularly.
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That's part of our big problem. They come out with new drugs every so often and it's impossible to keep up with the way their all rebranded.
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06-28-2012, 06:08
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According to Illinois State Police lab, Bath Salts and Spice cannot be detected in blood or urine, in reference to our DUI cases. I'm told this is why both drugs are very popular with military personnel.
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06-28-2012, 06:32
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Yeah most labs do not screen for it unless they are specifically looking for it.
I think this problem is only going to get worse.
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06-28-2012, 08:33
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I smell an anti-legalization rat.
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06-28-2012, 09:53
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Its just weed man.
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06-28-2012, 10:35
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Weed never hurt anyone. Just ask GNG.
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06-28-2012, 10:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanNREMTP
Yeah most labs do not screen for it unless they are specifically looking for it.
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What I meant was that they don't even have the capabilities yet in the labs to look for whatever new chemical gets put in the stuff every month.
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06-28-2012, 10:38
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But...but...aren't marijuana users non-violent?
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06-28-2012, 16:32
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Weed.........
Awwwww, come on....maybe he got high yesterday or the week before. Its difficult for me to believe he smoked pot and had the drive to attack anything but a bag of chips.
WAIT!!!! Did the victim have Doritos crumbs on his face?ż????
Hahahhhaha
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06-28-2012, 17:22
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Texas passed set laws for Spice and Bath Salts. It to a point now that we seize the product, send it to a lab, and get told months later if it meets the state law..
Once we have set brands listed as illegal, the names or ingredients change...
Waste of our time and money right now busting people, so we just hit the shops or sellers as hard as we can.
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06-28-2012, 17:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RetailNinja
According to Illinois State Police lab, Bath Salts and Spice cannot be detected in blood or urine, in reference to our DUI cases. I'm told this is why both drugs are very popular with military personnel.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RetailNinja
What I meant was that they don't even have the capabilities yet in the labs to look for whatever new chemical gets put in the stuff every month.
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We've been using NMS labs for K2/spice:
http://www.nmslabs.com/services-forensic-K2-testing
Their list of compounds is short, but it's better than our state lab, which cannot test for any of them.
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06-28-2012, 23:12
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First actual case of reefer madness, in how many decades? Not likely.
Odds are good there was something in his system they didnt check for, and whoever sold it to him has forgotten about the sale and hoping there isn't a receipt in the cannibal's pocket.
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06-29-2012, 04:32
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Let's not discount the distinct possibility that the guy could have just been bat**** crazy.
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06-29-2012, 04:42
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I can't believe you people actually believe it was solely THC that made him do this.  The amount of sheer ignorance here is quite sad.
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06-29-2012, 05:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USArmyFNG
I can't believe you people actually believe it was solely THC that made him do this.  The amount of sheer ignorance here is quite sad.
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You lacking the capacity to recognize obvious sarcasm, and general tomfoolery, leads me to believe that you don't have the right to call anyone else ignorant.
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06-29-2012, 06:17
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Originally Posted by Snowman92D
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leaving in this city for many years I have learn not to believe the officials reports, specially from the Medical Examiners
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06-29-2012, 07:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by txleapd
You lacking the capacity to recognize obvious sarcasm, and general tomfoolery, leads me to believe that you don't have the right to call anyone else ignorant.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USArmyFNG
I can't believe you people actually believe it was solely THC that made him do this.  The amount of sheer ignorance here is quite sad.
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Indeed it is...
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06-29-2012, 13:52
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It could have been marijuana mixed with something else.
Though I would really hate to think that in a case like this the medical examiners/lab techs would have missed anything.
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06-29-2012, 14:29
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It was probably because Big Bird said the letter "A" on a Tuesday, in 1992. Prove it wasn't.
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