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Old 05-26-2012, 15:52   #1
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180 vs 200 bullets

I'm gonna start reloading next month and was curious if I should reload 180gr or 200gr fmj or if it doesn't really matter.... These will only be for target loads but I want to load them to 10mm velocities not 40cal.....
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Old 05-26-2012, 16:08   #2
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Welcome to the forum MIAMIbaseballer. You will enjoy loading for this fine caliber.

For range ammo, I like 180s. I really like Power Bond copper bonded bullets for a relatively inexpensive option. In fact, this is what I ran an the IDPA match this morning. I load these to about 1175 fps with Accurate #9 powder (13.5 grains). CCI 300 primer. 1.25" COL. Starline brass. I use a stock barrel in my Gen 3 G20.

1175 fps is not super hot, but it is about 200 fps faster than the "FBI Load", or .40 S&W specs. In my view, this is a great round to get some high volume shooting done. Not too stressful on brass, and there is a bit of margin for error with pressures.

This load give me excellent groups. I have loaded a few thousand plated-style bullets, and the Power Bond bullets are far and away the best quality that I've worked with. At last check the prices include shipping.

http://www.powerbondbullets.com/mm5/...tegory_Code=40

Here is a review I did earlier this year for the Power Bond bullet:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1404110

I have heard good things about Montana Gold and Precision Delta bullets too. I believe that 2K is the minimum order for PD.

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Old 05-26-2012, 16:33   #3
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For target, whichever is the cheapest.

i have a different opinion for field or service/defense though
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Old 05-26-2012, 16:59   #4
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If I were to order another bunch of bullets, I would go with powerbond 180gr flat points, but I plan on casting my own.


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Old 05-27-2012, 06:39   #5
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Tater thanks for the report and link on the Powerbond bullet.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:42   #6
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Because your talking targets and FMJ bullets.. I agree it dosen't matter, I would buy a box of each and load various loadings of each and see what your gun likes. Then buy those.

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Old 05-28-2012, 20:42   #7
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Welcome to the forum MIAMIbaseballer. You will enjoy loading for this fine caliber.

For range ammo, I like 180s. I really like Power Bond copper bonded bullets for a relatively inexpensive option. In fact, this is what I ran an the IDPA match this morning. I load these to about 1175 fps with Accurate #9 powder (13.5 grains). CCI 300 primer. 1.25" COL. Starline brass. I use a stock barrel in my Gen 3 G20.

1175 fps is not super hot, but it is about 200 fps faster than the "FBI Load", or .40 S&W specs. In my view, this is a great round to get some high volume shooting done. Not too stressful on brass, and there is a bit of margin for error with pressures.

This load give me excellent groups. I have loaded a few thousand plated-style bullets, and the Power Bond bullets are far and away the best quality that I've worked with. At last check the prices include shipping.

[URL]http://www.powerbondbullets.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PBOS&Product_Code=40FP180&Category_Code=40[/URL]

Here is a review I did earlier this year for the Power Bond bullet:

[URL]http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1404110[/URL]

I have heard good things about Montana Gold and Precision Delta bullets too. I believe that 2K is the minimum order for PD.
Thanks for all the info.... I just read your review thread on them. They seem like a great choice. My question for you is.... Since they are basically the same price.... whats the advantage to getting these over PD jackets bullets? and I'd also like to be in the 1200's. PD has buying options per 20 or per 1000 (they charge $5 if you do not order in multiples of 2000)...
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Thanks for all the info.... I just read your review thread on them. They seem like a great choice. My question for you is.... Since they are basically the same price.... whats the advantage to getting these over PD jackets bullets? and I'd also like to be in the 1200's. PD has buying options per 20 or per 1000 (they charge $5 if you do not order in multiples of 2000)...
Probably no advantage other than some ranges have a requirement for no exposed lead. The PD bullets are exposed lead bases.

If one or the other is backordered, it is nice to have another option in the quiver. If you are a member of a shooting club and can get a group of guys together locally for a group buy, you might ask for a discount. I just picked up a supply of 180 gr flat points for $100 per 1000 from a group buy at my club. You can mix and match calibers in a group buy. Ask for Matt at Power Bond.
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Best advice I can give you is load 9.2gr Longshot behind anything 180gr and you've got a winner.
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Old 05-29-2012, 14:44   #10
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I am only loading 200 grain bullets in mine, but I use mine for hunting and woods defense. Here in Montana we have large predators. I have .40 cal guns for the lighter bullets.
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Old 05-30-2012, 19:32   #11
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Probably no advantage other than some ranges have a requirement for no exposed lead. The PD bullets are exposed lead bases.

If one or the other is backordered, it is nice to have another option in the quiver. If you are a member of a shooting club and can get a group of guys together locally for a group buy, you might ask for a discount. I just picked up a supply of 180 gr flat points for $100 per 1000 from a group buy at my club. You can mix and match calibers in a group buy. Ask for Matt at Power Bond.
Very true.... thanks for the new source and info. Will definitely try these at some point
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Welcome to the world of 10mm handloading. There's been so good advice given.

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I had better luck finding 180 grain bullets when I first got my G29SF so that is all I ever load now.

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Welcome to the forum MIAMIbaseballer. You will enjoy loading for this fine caliber.

For range ammo, I like 180s. I really like Power Bond copper bonded bullets for a relatively inexpensive option. In fact, this is what I ran an the IDPA match this morning. I load these to about 1175 fps with Accurate #9 powder (13.5 grains). CCI 300 primer. 1.25" COL. Starline brass. I use a stock barrel in my Gen 3 G20.

1175 fps is not super hot, but it is about 200 fps faster than the "FBI Load", or .40 S&W specs. In my view, this is a great round to get some high volume shooting done. Not too stressful on brass, and there is a bit of margin for error with pressures.

This load give me excellent groups. I have loaded a few thousand plated-style bullets, and the Power Bond bullets are far and away the best quality that I've worked with. At last check the prices include shipping.

http://www.powerbondbullets.com/mm5/...tegory_Code=40

Here is a review I did earlier this year for the Power Bond bullet:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1404110

I have heard good things about Montana Gold and Precision Delta bullets too. I believe that 2K is the minimum order for PD.
Tater how do the PowerBond bullets handle speed? I have had experiences in the past with Berry's bullets not holding up well when pushed fast, and it has drastically affected accuracy.....
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I just ordered my batch of 10mm bullets and went with 180 because I intend to use the same bullets in my G23.

200-grain seems to be pushing the high end for 40s.
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I just ordered my batch of 10mm bullets and went with 180 because I intend to use the same bullets in my G23.

200-grain seems to be pushing the high end for 40s.
It is.

That's why there were no .40 S&W factory loads offered using 200gn JHPs until DT's .40-line came along, loading Hornady's 200gn XTP to 1050fps - same velocity as Hornady's own 10mm load with the same XTP.

For the O.P. ...

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CountryGun is right, and 180gn 10mm/.40cal slugs are ubiquitous.

But I like the 200gn Horn FMJ-FPs myself. A while back I stocked up on 2000+ of them.

I've been with this cartridge for a long time and have always liked it at or near it's original "combat" loading, i.e., 200gn @ 1200fps, give or take depending on usage ...

For practice, range plinking, or training w/ modest recoil, you can keep it to 1150fps-1180fps.

Or, by loading up, you can easily get into DT/UW velocities for carry in the backwoods and boonie areas for defense against bear/cougar/biker/anal-probing by Klingons, etc.

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