Encounter With The Local P.D. Tonight - Page 4

ftw13 · 06-17-2012, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Cherokee Slim

I was also in an accident. I didn't have to let him know I was carrying but I did. He asked me to give it to him, he unloaded it and spent 30 minutes talking about how unusual it was. (Colt New Agent, .45acp) No real issue at all.
Cherokee Slim

i would be pretty pissed if they took my gun from and then unloaded it. i've seen guys post stories about officers taking their weapons and actually unloading the mag and handing them back that way.

***Gallium*** · 06-18-2012, 07:57

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Originally Posted by ftw13

i would be pretty pissed if they took my gun from and then unloaded it. i've seen guys post stories about officers taking their weapons and actually unloading the mag and handing them back that way.

No, you wouldn't be. You THINK you'd be pretty pissed, but you'd be all "yes sir, no sir, ok sir", then you'd either not post it here out of embarrassment for how docile you were during that interaction, or you'd say how pissed you were.

When the police detain you, they have, according to law, control of that situation. If they feel the safest thing is to prone you out on the ground and cuff you, there is plenty of case law to back up their actions.

The best advice I have for you, or anyone who carries a gun, is BE COOL - not only when you are stopped by the police, but always be cool (level headed, look at the big picture, think about tomorrow as well as what is happening in that instant, and how your immediate actions will drive what happens in the/your near future).

Most of us can see into the future. It is unfortunate that many of us never use that ability.

- G

***Gallium*** · 06-18-2012, 07:59

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Originally Posted by RussP

Thank you...but, who told you I am an "officer?"

You did.

ftw13 · 06-21-2012, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Gallium

No, you wouldn't be. You THINK you'd be pretty pissed, but you'd be all "yes sir, no sir, ok sir", then you'd either not post it here out of embarrassment for how docile you were during that interaction, or you'd say how pissed you were.

When the police detain you, they have, according to law, control of that situation. If they feel the safest thing is to prone you out on the ground and cuff you, there is plenty of case law to back up their actions.

The best advice I have for you, or anyone who carries a gun, is BE COOL - not only when you are stopped by the police, but always be cool (level headed, look at the big picture, think about tomorrow as well as what is happening in that instant, and how your immediate actions will drive what happens in the/your near future).

Most of us can see into the future. It is unfortunate that many of us never use that ability.

- G

No I'd voice my disdain for why they thought disarming a CHL holder was necessary. Stand up for your rights or you'll lose them. Some ******wit rookie doesn't get to trample on peoples rights because he has a badge.

***Gallium*** · 06-21-2012, 18:41

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Originally Posted by ftw13

No I'd voice my disdain for why they thought disarming a CHL holder was necessary. Stand up for your rights or you'll lose them. Some ******wit rookie doesn't get to trample on peoples rights because he has a badge.

Hey, if that's your modus operandi - great.

ftw13 · 06-21-2012, 19:39

i've never been disarmed though,this is Texas its pretty gun friendly

maxnovice · 06-22-2012, 12:53

I have only had one leo contact since obtaining my CCW permit five years ago and I did everything I could to make it positive. I was out of state travelling with my family when we exited the interstate. I noted an officer at the top of the ramp, noted the green light, and turned through the intersection heading into town. I was in the left turn lane of a busy intersection waiting for that light to turn green when the officer pulled in with lights on. I immediately turned my hazard flashers on, waited for the green, pulled through the intersection and turned right into the next parking lot. When the officer pulled in behind me, I had all five windows down, ignition off, and keys on the dashboard. I knew my permit was good in that state but was unsure if I needed to inform. When the officer approached he immediately asked for my drivers license. I told him I was going to pick my wallet up from the console and hand him my license and carry permit. He told me I wasn't required to inform him but that he greatly appreciated me telling him. He told me I was stopped for running the light at the top of the ramp. I was positive that the light was green and we politely debated. My 9 year old was in the back seat and starting to get nervous so he smiled at her then asked if she was ok. She looked him right in the eye smiled and said 'yes sir'. The officer turned back to me and told us to have a safe trip and continue to watch those traffic signals closely.

I will allways treat LEO's with respect and cooperation until they give me a reason to act otherwise. It has served me will over the years.

I'm not saying my approach is correct or best, just sharing my experience.

TexasGlockster · 06-22-2012, 13:29

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Originally Posted by mingaa

Looking for LEO input - does CCW status come up with plates or is that a per-system option? A myth? Obviously if hubby has the permit and the wife (GF, friend) registers the car that's a no - otherwise, my car?? TY.

Not in TX.

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DScottHewitt · 06-22-2012, 13:41

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Originally Posted by CA Escapee

I was hit in an intersection on my way home from work tonight. I was making a left turn on a green arrow when a driver approaching from the other direction ran the red light and glanced off the front of my truck. (Hyundai vs. FJ Cruiser)

His airbags deployed, mine didn't; both vehicles are messed up. I called 911 because he wasn't doing too well. When the local P.D. arrived and before giving the officer a quick overview of what happened I pulled out my permit and handed it to the officer and told him I was carrying. He said, "Thanks for letting me know," and got down to controlling traffic.

As more and more fire and police showed up a second officer was collecting insurance and registration info, and driver licenses. When she asked me for my license I gave her my permit also and told her I was carrying. She asked where's your gun? I told her it's holstered under my shirt on my right side. She too said "Thanks," and went about her business.

Other than that it was a total non-issue. (Makes me wonder why I'm posting this in the Carry "Issue" forum!?!)

Bill

Barely rises to the level of encounter.

You didn't even hit one, take his/her doughnuts, and skate off while

By dscotthewitt at 2012-06-21

poodleplumber · 06-22-2012, 14:34

I have twice been stopped, once for a tail light out and once for speeding.

On one occasion, the officer thanked me for letting him know and told me to keep my hands on the wheel.

On the other occasion, one officer started to smart off that the CCL was not a "get out of jail free" card. Another officer stepped up and pointed out to the first that having a tail light out doesn't send people to jail. Then he, too, instructed me to keep my hands on the wheel, but in a very friendly way, and then ended the stop by telling me I had handled the stop just the way I should have. It left me with the impression that the first guy was going to receive some instruction after I left.

wjv · 06-22-2012, 16:59

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Originally Posted by ftw13

i would be pretty pissed if they took my gun from and then unloaded it. i've seen guys post stories about officers taking their weapons and actually unloading the mag and handing them back that way.

I would prefer if I didn't have to hand over my gun to the officer and I would prefer if he/she didn't unload it. But ultimately it wouldn't be the end of the world if it happened.

If the officer for some reason does not know ho to safely unload my gun and puts a bullet into the ground, it's the officers problem, not mine. . Unless he/she accidentally shoots me in the process. Since I mostly carry a DAO revolver that's not a likely scenario.

Sorry but I don't get all freaked out if the officer asks for my gun, as long as it is done in a professional manner and I'm not being treated like a criminal, being slammed to the ground and such. . .

ca survivor · 06-23-2012, 08:56

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Originally Posted by Cavalry Doc

Relax a bit, we can discuss this calmly as adults.

I have no problem declaring that I am carrying a weapon when LEO shows up. I'm not doing anything wrong, and regardless of idealistic platitudes, I do not want armed friendlies to suddenly be surprised that I am armed too. When that happens, a bunch of people suddenly start pointing guns in the wrong direction.

When they know, at least where I am from, they don't care. It becomes a non-issue.

Generally speaking, in groups of well armed people, surprises are a bad thing.

Keep it a secret if it is legal, and if you want to. Just be sure you want to.

If a LEO shows up you were doing something wrong, at least to him you were...

**RussP** · 06-23-2012, 09:35

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Originally Posted by ca survivor

If a LEO shows up you were doing something wrong, at least to him you were...

And you know this to be fact how?

Misty02 · 06-23-2012, 13:16

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Originally Posted by ca survivor

If a LEO shows up you were doing something wrong, at least to him you were...

Are you aware that LEOs also interact with victims and witnesses that have done absolutely nothing wrong? Additionally, they show up quite often while I’m having lunch, I’ve done nothing wrong and they were just hungry. They even have DUI checkpoints where people are stopped and they’ve done nothing wrong either.

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pck50 · 06-23-2012, 22:29

You handled the situation very much in an upper Professional manner good for you.
Just hope that you wont be getting any after pains hope that your doing well and wont suffer ant after effect pains.
Hope your AOK.

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Originally Posted by CA Escapee

I was hit in an intersection on my way home from work tonight. I was making a left turn on a green arrow when a driver approaching from the other direction ran the red light and glanced off the front of my truck. (Hyundai vs. FJ Cruiser)

His airbags deployed, mine didn't; both vehicles are messed up. I called 911 because he wasn't doing too well. When the local P.D. arrived and before giving the officer a quick overview of what happened I pulled out my permit and handed it to the officer and told him I was carrying. He said, "Thanks for letting me know," and got down to controlling traffic.

As more and more fire and police showed up a second officer was collecting insurance and registration info, and driver licenses. When she asked me for my license I gave her my permit also and told her I was carrying. She asked where's your gun? I told her it's holstered under my shirt on my right side. She too said "Thanks," and went about her business.

Other than that it was a total non-issue. (Makes me wonder why I'm posting this in the Carry "Issue" forum!?!)

Bill

DScottHewitt · 06-26-2012, 10:27

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Originally Posted by RussP

I'm curious about your sigline. Where do you live that police response is slower than pizza delivery?

How often have you personally called police and their response time was...well, let me ask this: What pizza delivery service do you use that gets their goods to you quicker than police can get to you?

I used to live in the largest County in Virginia. Technically, I guess I still do. Just in a city in it now.

The fine men and women of ACSD do a wonderful job. But they are stretched thin. I can see a wait time being extended. Even if a deputy is free to cover your call, he/she might be on the far side of the County.

Thirty personnel {TOTAL} to cover almost 1000 square miles. Divided over four shifts.

Hard to be everywhere at once......

http://www.co.augusta.va.us/Index.aspx?page=211

I'm just giving this as an example of how it could happen to take a while to get a LEO to someone.....

DScottHewitt · 06-26-2012, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Misty02

Neither plates nor DL show we are licensed to carry in Florida but I have read that is not the case in all states.

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IIRC, it comes up on a 28/29 in Virginia. IIRC

I may not recall correctly. haven't heard it lately on a traffic stop. But they might have just not stopped any one with a CHP while I was listening to my scanner.......

DScottHewitt · 06-26-2012, 10:34

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Originally Posted by Misty02

Are you aware that LEOs also interact with victims and witnesses that have done absolutely nothing wrong? Additionally, they show up quite often while I’m having lunch, I’ve done nothing wrong and they were just hungry. They even have DUI checkpoints where people are stopped and they’ve done nothing wrong either.

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A Waynesboro LEO showed up here at the library looking for me yesterday. I had done nothing wrong. Just heard someone else do so.......

He didn't even ask me for my DL while we were talking.

Or my CHP.

Or a vial of my blood.

I feel robbed.