[r3dot]

I immediately recognized Gustavo from Breaking Bad in that picture.

Show looks dumb.

[coqui33]

Originally Posted by DoubleWide

All oil and gas will be used up. There are no places to easily drill for oil any more like in the 1800s.

This.

[cowboy1964]

Natural gas is plentiful. As is coal. Biofuels would be hot.

[pugman]

Originally Posted by pugman

I read your posts and we agree on a lot...but nothing is a good starting point of what is slowly killing this country.

I'm not one of those "T.V is bad" guys but between bad reality T.V shows (The real Housewives of [insert whatever], Anything related to the Kardashians, mock Pawn Shop shows, etc), bad game shows, dramas based in a hospital/law firm/police department or copy cat sit coms what is really left?

Watching television accounts for half the lesiure time of the average American and accounts for nearly three hours a day.

Better or Nothing would probably serve this country well.

Revolution looks like The Hunger Games - everyone is clean cut, wearing designer clothes and women wearing makeup.

Ok, I gave this a shot. Have TV writers just simply given up trying to put together anything worth while?

This plot seems like it was written after someone watched the Postman and Van Damme's Cyborg circa 1989 (I should put my own eyes out for watching that crap).

Mild spoiler....then again not really since I'm saving you the trouble from watching this train wreck...



So the guy who can save the world....his brother happens to have been the former friend/partner of the General who runs the local militia in the Republic of Munroe. Munroe, if you haven't guessed it already, is the guy's name. All along there is apparently some thumb drive which can save the world. Really...this is the best you can come up with?

Do these writers get together, smoke some serious s*** and think what is the worst plot we can write a major network will pick up? Are they just trying to 1) fill a time slot 2) cash in on December, 2012 3) lose a bet

They would have been better served trying to revive Jericho

[RMTactical]

Originally Posted by Openroadracer

Bows and Flintlocks?

yeah what is up with that?

[PaulMason]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

I'm not excited about it, if anything it will be "better than nothing" TV watching like Terra Nova was.

Come to think of it not too many Sci-fi shows last on network TV. Terra Nova didn't last long, and Jericho died a slower death only because of an outcry by the fans

I watched the pilot on Hulu. It takes place 15 years after the event yet the guy on the left in the photo is somehow overweight!

I don't think you can look at the show from a logical point of view but a fantasy. If they made a show based upon what would most likely happen, people would spend most of their time looking for food and preparing it. The characters would be dirty, with yellow teeth, teeth missing, oily hair and dirty clothes, guys with beards. They would be carrying large backpacks and not making too much distance per day. It wouldn't make fun TV. Even "The Walking Dead" doesn't go "full reality".

[Bilbo Bagins]

Originally Posted by r3dot

I immediately recognized Gustavo from Breaking Bad in that picture.

Show looks dumb.

+1 I like Gus, the Chicken Man. I'm just hoping the show is not a complete disgrace. Hate to see him go from winning an Emmy, to a stemming pile of horse poop.

[Warp]

Originally Posted by PaulMason

I
I don't think you can look at the show from a logical point of view but a fantasy.

Yup.

Which is why I am totally ignoring it. Well, other than this thread.

[FireForged]

Originally Posted by dissthis

I guess NBC thinks only muskets, crossbows and swords will be the only weapons left after 15years to use.....fools...

If/when it comes on NetFlix...I'll check it out...(no cable)

hahahahah! exactly.

[cowboy1964]

I doubt this show will last more than one season. Better shows than this have not.

[Kieller]

I'll probably give it a shot only because the wifey was interested in it.

Everytime I see someone swinging a sword around though, I am gonna be thinking of pulling an indiana jones...

[Drilled]

NBC is owned by Comcast.

[The Wizard]

All I have got to say about firearms post-SHTF is Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province (NWFP). And they ain't using CNC machines. Check this out http://www.irinnews.org/InDepthMain....ReportId=34290

[quake]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

All I have got to say about firearms post-SHTF is Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province (NWFP). And they ain't using CNC machines. Check this out http://www.irinnews.org/InDepthMain....ReportId=34290

+1. There's a whole lot of 60-80 year old guns & ammo out there, still being used just fine. I've got a couple ~70 year old semiauto carbines, a ~70 year old WW2 1911A1 and some 'newer' 30-40 year old pistols that I'd still trust completely for defensive use, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Fifteen years is negligible in the life expectancy of most any decently-made firearm that isn't horrifically abused.

The "thrown back to the dark ages" teowtwawki storylines may (or may not) make for entertainment, but they're far from realistic.

[PaulMason]

Originally Posted by quake

The "thrown back to the dark ages" teowtwawki storylines may (or may not) make for entertainment, but they're far from realistic.

Hollywood doesn't do realistic. Although the old TV movie "The Day After" tried.

If remember the age group for the show is teenagers, what the producers are doing makes sense.

[Warp]

Originally Posted by PaulMason

Hollywood doesn't do realistic.

Correct.

[pugman]

Originally Posted by PaulMason

Hollywood doesn't do realistic. Although the old TV movie "The Day After" tried.

If remember the age group for the show is teenagers, what the producers are doing makes sense.

I swear if they have "Beebs" in it aged fifteen years I'm going apocolypse on NBC

[Kevin108]

IMDB said the leather-clad beebs in the premier were 16 so I guess NBC is safe.

[Bilbo Bagins]

Originally Posted by PaulMason

I watched the pilot on Hulu. It takes place 15 years after the event yet the guy on the left in the photo is somehow overweight!

I don't think you can look at the show from a logical point of view but a fantasy. If they made a show based upon what would most likely happen, people would spend most of their time looking for food and preparing it. The characters would be dirty, with yellow teeth, teeth missing, oily hair and dirty clothes, guys with beards. They would be carrying large backpacks and not making too much distance per day. It wouldn't make fun TV. Even "The Walking Dead" doesn't go "full reality".

I watched it too, its was not that bad. Reminds me of Jericho. It did explain the lack of guns a little bit, apparently the civilian ownership of a firearm is a hangable offense. The Militia captain Gustavo or whatever his name is on this show pulled a Desert Eagle and just started picking off rioting villagers who were armed with bows and pick axes. There was at least two other people with shotguns, a villager who was in the riot, and another lady in a different scene with a double barreled.

It looks like the powerful and the lucky are the only people with real firearms. All the plebs and the grunt have bows, and flintlocks.

Its interesting for now, but like Jericho I think they are going to write themselves in a corner real fast.

[wjv]

Where is everyone (guys & gals) getting razor blades and toothpaste from?

[Bren]

Originally Posted by wjv

Where is everyone (guys & gals) getting razor blades and toothpaste from?

Toothpaste isn't really necessary to keeping your teeth clean and people have been shaving for thousands of years. You'll be surprised to learn, a safety razor and crest are not survival necessities - hope that doesn't upset the preps of anybody in the S&P forum.

However, I watched the pilot for about 10 minutes and all I saw was "weak hippies are good and the people with guns are bad." Certainly not up to FX standards. I doubt I'll watch any more.

Did any good guys show up during the episiode who weren't weak*&& vegan types?

EDIT: OK, I went back and skipped to a middle scene and near the end - holy crap that sucked. Like razors, we had guns before we had electricity - even the quality of hand tools available to modern people with no electricity would be far better that Sam Colt's first guns were made with. Skipping over the question of why the discovery of basic electricity was erased by what must have been an EM pulse, how is it that people have lost all of the accumulated knowledge of the last few centuries? It looks like that demo-liberal fantasyland where if you ban guns they disappear and if you take them away, they are so mysterious and magical that ordinary humans won't be able to make more. Nobody, even the uncle who seems to be some type of action guy, has a revolver? Even the muzzleloader guys seem to have forgotten revolver technology and use swords and single shot rifles. really? Even for major network TV, I am not impressed. Jericho was a much better version of this scenario.

Nobody can generate electricity? really? never heard of steam? Never seen moving water turn a wheel?

[mrmedina]

I commented when the thread came out. But now I'm just curious the initial SHTF/unknown EMP. Of what happens. Maybe some ideas will pop up of what to prep for. I'm not expecting major information, just some food thought show scenes.

[quake]

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

...apparently the civilian ownership of a firearm is a hangable offense.

a la bunraku... http://www.bunrakuthemovie.com/

Not a great movie, but for some reason I liked it more than I probably should have.

Originally Posted by Bilbo Bagins

...like Jericho I think they are going to write themselves in a corner real fast.

Most likely a sound prediction imo. Shame because viewers are receptive and ready for a good 'shtf' series (walking dead, falling skies, jericho, jeremiah, etc), but like jericho & jeremiah, this one will likely have lots of unexplored potential.

Guess that's what happens when prepper-mockers write prepper fiction.

Originally Posted by wjv

Where is everyone (guys & gals) getting razor blades and toothpaste from?

True. I'm down to probably 3 years' toothpaste & 12years' razor blades (my razor blades aren't as commonly available as toothpasts).

I better get of the sidelines & get with it...

[Lone Kimono]

Jericho would have been really good if they had a season 3. That war would have been interesting!

The show was alright, but I do think they will write themselves into a corner. It makes me want to buy a sword!

[Chuck TX]

It's no Jericho, that's for sure. Jericho may have had its slip ups and unrealistic faults, but at least it didn't have all the planes fall out of the sky in a flat spin.