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Old 12-19-2013, 11:04   #1
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Michigan man who shot drunk woman on porch will face murder trial

The prosecutor argued that he must not have been in fear of his life if he opened the door. In my opinion, its idiotic to open your door at zero dark thirty to someone you aren't expecting.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/19...mty_twitter_fn
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:13   #2
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Yup, this guy has no defense.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:13   #3
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I am always amazed people answer their doors at all hours of the night. Who is it? Do I know you? No you can't use my phone, No I don't have any gas for your car. Hang tight I will call the Sheriff/PD and they can help you.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:22   #4
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I got an a%% chewing years ago when I did not let a family in when it was cold outside. 3am, their car broke down. I did not answer the door, I called the county sheriff. He was pissed I let people get cold.

I got back in his face and told him I do not answer my door at 3am.

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Old 12-19-2013, 11:40   #5
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The article says "drunk woman" and then mentions that she was in a car wreck earlier and wandered to his home. Was she the driver of the wrecked vehicle?
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:45   #6
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Is this the guy that shot the girl in the back of her head through a closed door? He is claiming the gun went off accidentally if its the same incident.


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Old 12-19-2013, 11:55   #7
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Here's a link to one of the original stories with more info.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/15/justic...-shot-charges/
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:00   #8
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I have a security camera at my house, which is nice. Even in the dark it gives me a darn good image of who is at my front door. From there, I can make a good decision about whether it is friend or foe. (I can also talk to the person through the intercom, and tell them to move along)

It doesn't sound like this fellow has much of a case. The girl doesn't sound like she was a threat.
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Old 12-19-2013, 14:21   #9
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The details at that linked page talks about the screen being dislodged. Sounds like she was trying to get in. Still didn't need to be shot unless she was actually breaking through a door or window. I never could understand why people want to open doors or go outside to investigate in the early morning hours. Better to call the cops and wait for them to arrive. If the person comes through a door or window and gains access, THEN its time to pull the trigger.
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I also noticed this in the comments:
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McBride planned to go party on Detroit's east side. Bonds said he told her to be careful. She was slurring and he was concerned about her driving home to the west side of the city intoxicated. He told police he was concerned someone might have slipped something into her drink based on her slurring.
What a nice person to let someone who's been drinking and slurring their words to get behind the wheel.
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Old 12-19-2013, 17:10   #12
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The prosecutor argued that he must not have been in fear of his life if he opened the door. In my opinion, its idiotic to open your door at zero dark thirty to someone you aren't expecting.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/19...mty_twitter_fn
I am surmising that she was Black and he was White and she was probably under the influence of drugs or alcohol and was belligerent and she scared the man and he shot her..stupid move. This one will be decided by who has the best attorney and her background as well as his.
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Old 12-19-2013, 19:21   #13
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Make poor decisions with a gun and you go to jail.
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Yup, this guy has no defense.
that's kinda gray. murder implies intent and or motive.

voluntary manslaughter? he's ****ed.
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I am surmising that she was Black and he was White and she was probably under the influence of drugs or alcohol and was belligerent and she scared the man and he shot her..stupid move. This one will be decided by who has the best attorney and her background as well as his.
That's exactly my take on it.
Being scared, and stupid for opening the door, is not justification to shoot somebody.
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Old 12-19-2013, 19:41   #17
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Oh, and please. Somebody quote that idiot, the vice president of the U.S. saying that you should shoot through the front door with a 12 gauge to scare away intruders.

Isn't this EXACTLY what Joe Biden said to do? Isn't it?
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Update:
http://www.freep.com/article/2014072...shooting-trial

I just herd on the news that the trial has started.

If McBride was banging on multiple doors I can seer how Wafer could think it was multiple persons trying to enter. Also not having a phone available what else would you do? Sit and wait till the trespassers broke through, or actively try to defend yourself and your property...?

Eta:

I also herd on npr how this compares to the Zimmerman trial because; and I quote: "two innocent black teens were needlessly shot dead, by two white men, who were initially not charged with a crime"

At least we know this trial really is about for some...
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Sit and wait till the trespassers broke through, or actively try to defend yourself and your property...?
Sit and wait.

Identify target.

Don't shoot unless you are in fear for your life or the lives of your loved ones.

Complications exist, such as when there are wild animals and you do go outside to defend your property and domestic animals
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Also not having a phone available what else would you do? Sit and wait till the trespassers broke through, or actively try to defend yourself and your property...?
If you don't want to go to jail, YES. Like it or not, that's how the law reads in most States. Find some cover. Aim the gun at the door. Once the door is breached, shoot. . . .
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