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Old 07-24-2014, 01:04   #1
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Touchdown or Incomplete Pass?

So, the Immaculate Reception: Pittsburg vs the Raiders in the AFC playoffs, December 23, 1972. Bradshaw throws a pass to Faqua, who is hit and loses the ball. Franco Harris scoops the ball and runs it in for a touchdown.

What do you think? Did the ball touch the ground? Was it a touchdown or an incomplete pass?

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Old 07-24-2014, 01:59   #2
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Did the ball touch the ground? Was it a touchdown or an incomplete pass?
Something we will never know for sure. If we were using today's rules with just those replays above, it would have been ruled a touchdown due to not having enough evidence to overturn the call so I guess I'll go with that.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:15   #3
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Many think this one play led to a bitter rivalry between these two teams that endures to this day.
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:38   #4
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At 1:42 it looks like a catch, but without seeing the entire football, can't be sure.

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From what I can see.......incomplete
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:01   #6
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you can't see, ruling on the field stands, touchdown
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:05   #7
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I watched it live (as a kid) on TV, it was a catch!!
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:36   #8
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you can't see, ruling on the field stands, touchdown
That's the debate at hand,......and has been for years.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:43   #9
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That video clearly shows what a violent, dangerous sport football is. I can't believe we are still allowing it to be played after all these years.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:43   #10
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That's the debate at hand,......and has been for years.
You can't really debate it. If there were a few more angles, or if the camera guys were a little quicker on the ball we might have a split second view. Now all anyone can do is speculate.

Being impartial to both teams (Go Pats) and I wasn't even alive then, it looks like he was getting his hand down to be under the ball. Again, can't really see so ruling on the field.
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Personally......I could care less. Just made a comment, did not know I would be entering a debate.

Fair ball...........play on.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:53   #12
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No good replay to overturn it. Also, of course, non in high def. It would stand based on non-conclusive evidence to over turn IMHO.

In reality he did grab the ball from the sides so it is possible it hit the ground but you can't tell from the replays.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:44   #13
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Saw that one live and I was a Raiders fan.

With all its controversy, and decades of speculation, you'd think there would be (I don't remember ever seeing) interview with folks who were on the sidelines and the closest rows of spectators on what they saw live. Obviously many would be biased but it would be interesting and might shed some light.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:56   #14
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Is it called the Immaculate Reception or the Immaculate Incomplete Pass?
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Old 07-24-2014, 08:14   #15
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Exactly how many NFL games have you officiated, Eric?

What training do you have that allows you to second guess the officials at the game.

That armchair must be getting pretty comfy

It is easy to MMQB that play from the comfort of your armchair wrapped in the blanket of security provided by the NFL officials who are trained to make such calls, especially 42 years later.





It was a catch from where I'm sitting man.


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Old 07-24-2014, 08:23   #16
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What the hell was Bradshaw throwing there in the first place. IT's a SEA OF WHITE. He should have hit Harris in the first place.
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Old 07-24-2014, 08:24   #17
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Honestly, I could not see well enough. Maybe it is my screen or something, I dunno. Inconclusive, call on the field stands!
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Old 07-24-2014, 08:47   #18
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It was incomplete. Franco Harris once made the statement that he is the only one that truly knows whether he caught it cleanly or not, and that he would never tell the answer! It was just barely incomplete!!
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:16   #19
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More importantly, was this Westdale High receiver, inadvertantly captured in Greg Brady's upskirt cheerleader photo, actually inbounds?

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Old 07-24-2014, 10:20   #20
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Ever just not see anything?

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