Gen 4 G26 Recoil Spring Issue - Page 2

voyager4520 · 09-09-2012, 19:15

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ScumPunisher · 10-25-2012, 14:47

I recently (as in 2 weeks ago) got my g26 Gen4 and it has the same failure to cycle into battery you are describing. My Glock had a test fire date of June 12th this year so it's a new RSA, so a replacement would be the same thing. I honestly think it may be because (at least in my case) of the gouge in the plastic that was pointed out in a previous post. Mine is huge and it seems that this is where it is sticking. I've had 150 rds of cheap **** PMC 115gr standard pressure ball through it to break it in and it still does it. One thing I have noticed though, is that when trying to replicate the problem for the photos below, I had trouble keeping the slide in it's "jammed" state. What i mean is, if I slightly swing the gun around at all it kicks forward. When it was new outta box, before the 150 rds and a clean and lube, it was way more firmly locked into this position.

Is this where yours locks up at?

and here's that huge gouge I was talking about...

.38 super · 10-25-2012, 14:49

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Originally Posted by voyager4520

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That's too bad isn't it ? Is it any way I can access an archive ?

jnc54 · 10-29-2012, 18:53

My new gen 4 26 that I purchased last thur 10/24/12 failed to go into battery when I inserted a full mag into it and tried to chamber the first rd. If I bumped the slide a little it went in to battery. It looked just like the picture above and it has the same scratch mark in the same location. Maybe not as deep. RSA 0 8 1.

I shot 50 rds thru it sat and then took it down for inspection. The scratch seems to be about the same but now it has scuff marks behind the the scratch going toward the slide lock.

tango44 · 10-29-2012, 19:10

So now that Glock complicates the thing putting numbers to the Subcompact RSA's, what's the right one for a G26 Gen3?

smitret · 10-29-2012, 22:04

I had an early G27. BVK***US

Not knowing how many rounds on used gun recoil spring I ordered a new one from Glock.
New one #081 would allow slide to hang up as described above.
Called Glock and explained problem.
Was sent free #081 which Glock said was pretested.
Still same FTRTB letting slide return easy.
Function was good at range when firing.
The hangup is in the spring when the 2nd stage starts to apply pressure.
Choosing not to be Glock's field tester I traded the weapon.

Good Luck

AJE · 10-29-2012, 23:27

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Originally Posted by smitret

I had an early G27. BVK***US

Not knowing how many rounds on used gun recoil spring I ordered a new one from Glock.
New one #081 would allow slide to hang up as described above.
Called Glock and explained problem.
Was sent free #081 which Glock said was pretested.
Still same FTRTB letting slide return easy.
Function was good at range when firing.
The hangup is in the spring when the 2nd stage starts to apply pressure.
Choosing not to be Glock's field tester I traded the weapon.

Good Luck

I didn't think they were putting gen 4 recoil springs into the old guns.

It still would have been a dual spring but there were differences.

Sgt.K · 10-30-2012, 08:18

At the GSSF match I just attended the Armorer put a 0-8 in my ancient G26 Gen 2.5. Haven't fired it yet but no matter how I operate the slide it returns to battery. Just FYI.

And ScumPunisher I believe what you are seeing is the "normal" mold mark. I think the scratches most are referring to are in the scalloped area right in front of what you are seeing.

9mmdude · 10-30-2012, 15:23

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Originally Posted by AJE

I didn't think they were putting gen 4 recoil springs into the old guns.

It still would have been a dual spring but there were differences.

New Gen3's coming from the factory have Gen4 recoil springs.

JesseA · 10-30-2012, 18:07

Order a SS guide rod and call it good

Shrugged · 11-07-2012, 18:12

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Originally Posted by ScumPunisher

I recently (as in 2 weeks ago) got my g26 Gen4 and it has the same failure to cycle into battery you are describing. My Glock had a test fire date of June 12th this year so it's a new RSA, so a replacement would be the same thing.

Did you ever figure out a solution? I just picked up a Gen 4 G26 today (with a test fire date of June 11th 2012) and it's behaving the same way yours is. It looks identical to the picture you took.

SCmasterblaster · 11-07-2012, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Redstate

Good news. Got the Glock 0-8 RSA, and tried it today. Works great. No more issues with the RSA. Put 100 rounds of WWB and 10 rounds of Gold Dot +p through it today. It now has a total of 320 flawless rounds.

Nice to see it. Glock came through for you!

ScumPunisher · 11-07-2012, 18:26

Shrugged,

Apparently you can.contavt Glock CS and they will send u a replacement. I haven't done this yet but I am going to tomorrow. I locked the slide back to expose that metal shroud on the rsa and lightly lubed it to see if that would help, but alas it doesn't so don't bother trying that. The good news is I put another 100 rds through it since my last post and still have not one ftf, fte, or any instance when the slide stayed like that during normal operation. I feel 100% comfortable carrying my g26 as my edc while I wait for the new rsa. It should always be a habit to have your thumb on the back of the slide while reholstering and drawing anyway, as this motion also is used as a safety measure for a hammered pistol and is good to make a habit of.

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SCmasterblaster · 11-07-2012, 18:39

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Originally Posted by ScumPunisher

Shrugged,

Apparently you can.contavt Glock CS and they will send u a replacement. I haven't done this yet but I am going to tomorrow. I locked the slide back to expose that metal shroud on the rsa and lightly lubed it to see if that would help, but alas it doesn't so don't bother trying that. The good news is I put another 100 rds through it since my last post and still have not one ftf, fte, or any instance when the slide stayed like that during normal operation. I feel 100% comfortable carrying my g26 as my edc while I wait for the new rsa. It should always be a habit to have your thumb on the back of the slide while reholstering and drawing anyway, as this motion also is used as a safety measure for a hammered pistol and is good to make a habit of.

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He got it fixed. See post No. 23.

ScumPunisher · 11-07-2012, 18:41

Ah, well there ya go!

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SCmasterblaster · 11-07-2012, 19:10

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Originally Posted by ScumPunisher

Ah, well there ya go!

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I like your Latin signature.

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Shrugged · 11-07-2012, 19:19

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Originally Posted by ScumPunisher

Shrugged,

Apparently you can.contavt Glock CS and they will send u a replacement. I haven't done this yet but I am going to tomorrow. I locked the slide back to expose that metal shroud on the rsa and lightly lubed it to see if that would help, but alas it doesn't so don't bother trying that. The good news is I put another 100 rds through it since my last post and still have not one ftf, fte, or any instance when the slide stayed like that during normal operation. I feel 100% comfortable carrying my g26 as my edc while I wait for the new rsa. It should always be a habit to have your thumb on the back of the slide while reholstering and drawing anyway, as this motion also is used as a safety measure for a hammered pistol and is good to make a habit of.

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Thanks for the info. Going to give Glock a call tomorrow. I agree with you about the thumb on the back of the slide while holstering - have been in the habit of doing that for quite some time (the other edc is a P228 with a hammer).

I wouldn't worry about carrying the gun either, but it will be nice to get the RSA swapped out so that it functions flawlessly.

SCmasterblaster · 11-07-2012, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Shrugged

Thanks for the info. Going to give Glock a call tomorrow. I agree with you about the thumb on the back of the slide while holstering - have been in the habit of doing that for quite some time (the other edc is a P228 with a hammer).

I wouldn't worry about carrying the gun either, but it will be nice to get the RSA swapped out so that it functions flawlessly.

I read recently that Glock GA is now making Glock pistols. Maybe soon they'll make domestic G25s (.380s).

mongo356 · 11-07-2012, 20:44

Per my Glock Dist mgr- The Gen 3 & 4 G26, G27, G33 share the same recoil spring now. All are a Gen 4 type either an 0-8 or 0-8-1

My understanding is the 0-8 came out first then the 0-8-1.

Then Glock upgraded the end of the RSA to include a washer on the 0-8-1. They were trying to keep the spring from slipping off of the end (large plastic oops polymer end) of the RSA during disassembly, while rare still happens once in a while.

The problem with the 0-8-1, the washer slightly out of spec, will sometimes bind and cause the FTRB especially when operated slowly.

Now for my guesses:
1- not all washers are made equal, 2- after some use the washer may wear down (break in) some and not cause a problem. 3- new RSA from Glock may have a smaller tolerance washer on the end and work like a charm without problems.

nraman · 11-08-2012, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Redstate

Just got my new Gen 4 G26.....

So did I, it works exactly the same way as the Gen 3, I don't see or feel anything different.

nraman · 11-08-2012, 00:48

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Originally Posted by mongo356

Per my Glock Dist mgr- The Gen 3 & 4 G26, G27, G33 share the same recoil spring now. All are a Gen 4 type either an 0-8 or 0-8-1

My latest G26 has the 0-8-1. Does this spring have its own part number or the part number is the same regardless of the version of the spring? I would like to upgrade the springs in my other baby Glocks.

mongo356 · 11-08-2012, 18:28

nraman- i'm not sure on the part numbers. I think they are the same part number, but i'm not positive.

I order my parts from Glockparts.com because I hate to wait for the Glock mothership to send them.

nraman · 11-08-2012, 21:41

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Originally Posted by mongo356

nraman- i'm not sure on the part numbers. I think they are the same part number, but i'm not positive.

I order my parts from Glockparts.com because I hate to wait for the Glock mothership to send them.

I just ordered three from the mothership. I am not in a hurry, I am sure I will get the latest, it is cheaper and less for shipping than the usual places.
Glock must be the only manufacturer that sells their parts cheaper than stores.

ScumPunisher · 11-27-2012, 18:35

Just an update, the fedex guy was walking up to my building right as I was headed out the door to go to the range the other day. It was my new rsa from Glock! Popped it in on the way out and it rtb flawlessly no matter how slow I let the slide back or tried.to have it ftrb. Wife and I dumped 200 rds at the range and all is well. The new rsa is the same 081 as my defective original. Must have been a bad batch of them mid year 2012 or something!

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Saleen · 02-18-2013, 07:53

I just bought a brand new US made Glock 26 GEN 3 this weekend. Test fire date 11/5/12. I'm having the same issues as in this thread. Slide wont return to full battery and also has the frame mark/gouge. My RSA has 0-8-1 on it as well. This is really dissapointing that i have a brand new gun with issues. I would have thought that Glock would have figured out these issues by now. I called them this morning and they are sending out a new RSA. I really hope this fixes the issue. Did everybody in this thread with the same issue have their problem solved by a new RSA?