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10-26-2012, 16:14
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Higgsjunk
The problem you are encountering with your LWD barrel is quite common, although I don't know how common that event happens with the conversion barrels.
About a year ago to "fix" your barrel would have cost you $30 plus shipping and you could have received a lecture about what an idiot you are for reloading the way you do.
Times have change, mainly thanks to this board and this thread, where now JR steps up to the plate and offers a correction to his product.
JR: I would just hope that anyone who calls the service department receives the same offer and not the old policy of paying the $30. If they are getting the free offer, congrats to you JR. If they aren't you might want to make a change.
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10-27-2012, 00:45
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#452
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Originally Posted by higgsjunk
This is also my 1st post on GT but I have been a reader for sometime now.. I just purchased my 1st lone wolf barrel for my glock 23 gen4. I purchased the 40-9 conversion barrel because I wanted to start shooting lead reloads. I proceeded to purchase 500 of the SmallBall! .356Diameter 9mm Parabellum 125 Grain 9MM RN from Missouri Bullet because I had read good things.. I am finding that in order to get the glock to go into battery I am having to seat the bullets very deep. OAL is 1.045.. I am very concerned about excessive pressure. Does anyone have any idea of what I may me doings wrong or has someone else ran into this issue? Thanks for any help...
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I have this issue exactly and have to seat my Missouri's to 1.089 It shoots 2" at 25 yards off a bag so I will run with it.
Take care,
Dave
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10-27-2012, 11:28
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#453
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452 posts, wow. Why doesn't someone recommend to LW to chamber their barrels with Glock's reamers? That way guns will work and we can all shoot lead to our hearts' content. And it might put an end to this tome.
Then we can sit before our keyboards all day and gripe about how much we hate LW barrels cuz our brass is swollen, has guppy bellies, neck splits, etc. I'm lookin' forward to that.
Edit: And I told myself I wasn't going to post anymore! Wife says I just cannot keep my fingers shut!
Last edited by Idaho Spud; 10-27-2012 at 11:34..
Reason: additional wise-*****ed remark
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10-27-2012, 12:05
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#454
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
I didn't know LW didn't "make" their own barrels. That seems odd to me. Most companies don't make all the stuff that they sell. Ford doesn't make every little part in their cars. But they are considered Ford parts. Same with this barrel. It's made for LW to LW specs. It is their barrel. They own it. They are proud of it. It is their baby. It may be tighter then people like. But I have never had a issue getting my ammo to fit their barrel. Even if you add the $30 to the price the barrel is still cheaper then most others. Only other option is Storm Lake. I don't know what their throats are like. KKM has a tight chamber and short throat. That is just the way these things are made.
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I like my LWD 6.02" 10mm barrel. The barrel is tight, but that's one of the reasons I bought it. All this means is that I have to use a good taper crimp when I load up.
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10-27-2012, 12:18
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#455
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Originally Posted by Bluescot
I seriously shot those same reloads in my Paraordinance 14-45 without a hitch and in my buddy's Colt Gold Cup and his Kimber also without a hitch.
Interesting enough I tried the stock Glock G30 barrel again and those same reloads ran in it very smoothly. So it doesn't appear to be a problem in other manuf. 45ACP nor in the stock Glock barrel so any angles of feeding would be eliminated.
Still puzzled.....maybe the GT hole was not completed properly .....who knows????
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I'm getting the impression that you don't seen to understand is every barrel is different. The Glock barrel itself is deemed by many to be the most reliable with RN ammo.
It doesn't matter as to what gun your reloads have been successfully shot out of before.
My 135 RN loads shot great out of my stock Glock 9mm barrels and my STI barrel, not in my LWD barrel initially and I know they will NOT work well out of my buddies CZ shadow (we had to adjust the OAL to get him a load that would run reliably).
I would suggest measuring the chamber and feed ramp angles against your stock Glock. I went back through the thread and haven't seen any posts by you stating your load bullet type, weight or OAL. Did you or didn't you send dummy rounds back when your chamber was opened up? The question you need to answer is "What is it about my particular load that causes this particular gun to choke with this particular barrel?
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10-27-2012, 12:37
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#456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho Spud
Then we can sit before our keyboards all day and gripe about how much we hate LW barrels cuz our brass is swollen, has guppy bellies, neck splits, etc. I'm lookin' forward to that.
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I never have that problem. I've been loading for 40SW Glocks since 1997 and never had that problem. I've also never had problems getting my rounds to chamber, but that's because I didn't buy into all the aftermarket barrel hype like the rest of the internet lemmings do.
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10-27-2012, 12:38
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Is anybody keeping track of all of the people with less than 20 posts and a membership only a few weeks old who happen to pop in here?
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10-27-2012, 12:58
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Originally Posted by WiskyT
Is anybody keeping track of all of the people with less than 20 posts and a membership only a few weeks old who happen to pop in here?
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Looked but couldn't find a rule prohibiting any one from posting opinion anywhere on this site. There, now I should have your requisite 20 posts.
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10-27-2012, 13:02
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Counting Beans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiskyT
I never have that problem. I've been loading for 40SW Glocks since 1997 and never had that problem. I've also never had problems getting my rounds to chamber, but that's because I didn't buy into all the aftermarket barrel hype like the rest of the internet lemmings do.
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I am with you on this. I have never arrived at the place where I thought a Glock barrel has left me lacking. I don't understand trying to fix what hasn't been an issue (chamber dimensions, poly' rifling, etc). The stock Glock barrel does what it should do an auto-loading combat pistol: reliably feed a variety of bullet profiles and group better than my shooting capabilities.
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10-27-2012, 13:04
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Originally Posted by Idaho Spud
Looked but couldn't find a rule prohibiting any one from posting opinion anywhere on this site. There, now I should have your requisite 20 posts.
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There is no rule agianst new members posting. I just find it kind of odd that there has been a steady stream of new mebers with low post counts who sing the praises of JR and how bad Glock barrels are.
We never seem to see much of those posters after they pop in on this thread either, go figure. I think I speak for the group as a whole when I say I look forward to many years of your posts on various aspects of reloading.
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10-27-2012, 13:07
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Originally Posted by Taterhead
I am with you on this. I have never arrived at the place where I thought a Glock barrel has left me lacking. I don't understand trying to fix what hasn't been an issue (chamber dimensions, poly' rifling, etc). The stock Glock barrel does what it should do an auto-loading combat pistol: reliably feed a variety of bullet profiles and group better than my shooting capabilities.
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And all of theother guns with polygonal rifling that nobody ever seems to have a problem with. I guess if they sold as many Baby Desert Eagles as they do Glocks, someone would start a hysteria about them and sell barrels to stop the carnage.
Does dean speir get a royalty on ever aftermarket Glcok barrel sold?
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10-27-2012, 13:36
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Originally Posted by WiskyT
There is no rule agianst new members posting. I just find it kind of odd that there has been a steady stream of new mebers with low post counts who sing the praises of JR and how bad Glock barrels are.
We never seem to see much of those posters after they pop in on this thread either, go figure. I think I speak for the group as a whole when I say I look forward to many years of your posts on various aspects of reloading.
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I don't sing too good, have no acquaintance with JR and like my Glock barrel just fine....and I don't have a lot of years left.
Had plenty to say about 450 posts ago, but bit my tongue.
Then I lost it. Please forgive me.
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10-27-2012, 15:29
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Whisky is eluding to the fact that all the new posters (here) are indeed incited to respond to this thread by the all powerful JR. Somehow I have contacted my minions (you low posting slaves) and called upon them (you) to rise to my defense.
A baseless illusion at best! Had I requested such a thing the server would blow up! I assure you these guys simply stumbled upon the link or were led here by others posting in other threads to try and discredit me or LWD. As I clearly said before, LWD has 10's of thousands satisfied customers and the bad mouth 5 that live here are definitely the minority. Either way, I have listened and now offer a chamber reamer that will put this BS debate to rest. The GT Hole covers all the lead reloads that will fit in these other guns (except Blue, he is special. Maybe I need one more try at his?)
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10-27-2012, 17:54
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They arrived the other day.
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10-27-2012, 22:18
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Originally Posted by DoctaGlockta
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What the he77 are you wearing?
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10-28-2012, 01:09
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Did you ask for a threaded barrel?
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10-28-2012, 06:17
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Originally Posted by Colorado4Wheel
Did you ask for a threaded barrel?
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That's what I'm wondering. He seemed surprised by the threads and protector.
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10-28-2012, 06:18
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Originally Posted by shotgunred
What the he77 are you wearing?
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Instead of dropping them at Goodwill, Jack just gives his clothes to Docta.
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10-28-2012, 06:37
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When I ordered this I was inspired by last election cycles slogan from the left
Emphasis on the CAN
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10-28-2012, 06:53
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Originally Posted by shotgunred
What the he77 are you wearing?
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Halloween party last night. We went as these guys
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10-28-2012, 06:55
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Originally Posted by DoctaGlockta
Halloween party last night. We went as these guys

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Which one were you?
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10-28-2012, 09:11
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Just a thought.
It is hard to take someone seriously when they dress like that now days.
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10-28-2012, 09:24
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Originally Posted by WiskyT
Which one were you?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shotgunred
Just a thought.
It is hard to take someone seriously when they dress like that now days.
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We are supposed to be taken seriously here? I guess I didn't get the memo.
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10-28-2012, 10:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiskyT
Is anybody keeping track of all of the people with less than 20 posts and a membership only a few weeks old who happen to pop in here?
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I know right?
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10-28-2012, 22:20
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I actually think JR is trying to do the right thing with his offer for the free GT hole to allow most of the buyers of his barrels to shot lead reloads. Which was one of the main reasons people bought his barrels.
It's taken a lot time and fuss for him to get to that point and it sounds like he had to overcome the momentum of his personality. The front desk people at that shop also seemed to be afflicted by this malady. The people in the back shop where the work is done appear to be great guys trying to solve a problem.
What would be interesting to see would be if the GT hole barrels are any less accurate than LWD "normal" barrels. My guess, and it is a guess, is if done on a Ransom rest there would be little if any difference but JR would have the gear to conduct such a test. If the results are not different a good move might be to have all barrels handle the lead reloads or in other words have the GT hole.
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