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Old 04-08-2012, 13:06   #1
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Why doesn't SIG/HK make a striker fired pistol?

FN just got in the game (FNS), S/W been there a while, Ruger has too...Beretta just did the Nano and I suspect we will see a replacement for the PX4 line sometime.....Glock set the standard and I love em'.

Why oh why doesn't Sig or my beloved HK pony up and get into the striker fired world?

HK at least has been in the polymer game for a long time. I can't understand why either manufacturer has not entered into the striker fired build. My only guess is that it may devalue sales of their "classic" lines but I have to guess they are loosing market share as it stands. It is at the point that I am seriously considering becoming an FN fan boy as I can get FN rifles to accessorize any FN pistol I buy . (can't really do that with HK) At least they are setting trends and keeping price within reason.

I have no knock on DA/SA or SAO mind you...I have some HK's and a Sig 2022. All that said...I wonder if we will see DA/SA in major production 5-10 years from now.

Anyone have any insight or opinion?
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Old 04-08-2012, 13:08   #2
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HK has made striker fired guns before. Hell, they made one before Glock did.

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Old 04-08-2012, 13:11   #3
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Old 04-08-2012, 13:14   #4
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There was a rumor that HK was working on a new polymer striker fired pistol but I think it's vaporware at this point. I haven't heard anything more about it outside of the rumor. As far as Sig, I don't know of any plans for them to make one either. I think Sig and HK are better staying with they do best. (DA/SA.)

At least with HK they already have a great DAO system. Sig's DAK leaves a lot to be desired though. Who knows what they will do in the future.
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Old 04-08-2012, 13:19   #5
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I'd say a decent portion of HK's civilian sales go to people like me who want a polymer pistol, but want a hammer.

HK, of course, has been down the striker fired path before (as previously mentioned).
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There was a rumor that HK was working on a new polymer striker fired pistol but I think it's vaporware at this point. I haven't heard anything more about it outside of the rumor. As far as Sig, I don't know of any plans for them to make one either. I think Sig and HK are better staying with they do best. (DA/SA.)

At least with HK they already have a great DAO system. Sig's DAK leaves a lot to be desired though. Who knows what they will do in the future.
Personally, I love the DAK trigger. It takes some dry firing and range time for them to settle in, but they are fantastic once they do.
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Old 04-08-2012, 13:25   #7
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My guess is that ten years from now both Sig and H&K will still be in business and that the Glock carbine will not have taken a serious amount of long gun sales from either.
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My guess is that ten years from now both Sig and H&K will still be in business and that the Glock carbine will not have taken a serious amount of long gun sales from either.
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Old 04-08-2012, 14:44   #9
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Correct me if im wrong but a few years ago I thought HK said they were going to steer clear of Striker Fired Pistols.

Their reasoning was hammers were superior if you run into a situation where the first primer strike doesnt go through you can just fire again instead of racking it back to reset the pin in striker fired pistols.

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Old 04-08-2012, 15:33   #10
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Why oh why doesn't Sig or my beloved HK pony up and get into the striker fired world?
Seriously?

HK built strikers long before Glock.
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HK built strikers long before Glock.
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Old 04-08-2012, 16:03   #12
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Let's recast this topic to view what is really being asked:

When are SIG/HK going to make pistols that suck as hard as a Glock does?
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Old 04-08-2012, 16:07   #13
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Why doesn't Glock make a hammer fired DA/SA or SAO model? I assume because Glock only makes 1 product in 4 different sizes and in 6 different calibers.
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Old 04-08-2012, 16:08   #14
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Let's recast this topic to view what is really being asked:

When are SIG/HK going to make pistols that suck as hard as a Glock does?
Well put, Boats...
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Old 04-08-2012, 16:27   #15
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Why doesn't Glock make a hammer fired DA/SA or SAO model? I assume because Glock only makes 1 product in 4 different sizes and in 6 different calibers.
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Old 04-08-2012, 17:07   #16
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Why oh why doesn't Sig or my beloved HK pony up and get into the striker fired world?
Because nobody, and I do mean nobody tells Germans what to do! You WILL buy whatever Germans make!
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Because nobody, and I do mean nobody tells Germans what to do! You WILL buy whatever Germans make!
And your problem with that is WHAT? Yes, I was born in the Old Country.
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When are Glock Haters going to start posting stuff that doesn't suck as hard as their guns do?

Fixed it for ya?
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Fixed it for ya?
Wake me up when Glock has fixed all the issues with the Gen4 guns.
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Old 04-08-2012, 17:49   #20
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Daaaaaaaaaaaaang.....not much love on this thread. Yup! Forgot about the P7...sorry LOL. Then again, while that pistol is awesome, it is not dominating the modern sales market.

I am surprised at the comments for real. I would love to see market share/earnings and other analytical data on civi and govt sales of pistols in the US and abroad. I wager cost per unit, design type, etc all favor the polymer striker pistol and that Glock and SW dominate 80% of the market (my ignorant guess mind you). I am not saying they are the best...just what is selling.

I think the striker fired design is effective, relevant and exceptionally popular style. I just can't understand the business logic of Sig and HK ignoring challenging that market share. That was the heart of my thread.
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