[geofri]

We haven't had an ammo price thread in a while( at least I haven't found one). If you want to share any deals that would rock.

Right now I'm looking at Wolf "performance ammunition" 123grn FMJ. $209 plus shipping (25 for me) for 1k rounds.

I'm tired of shooting corrosive. (even though 17 cents a round was nice! lately i';m not finding it under .20 if memory serves)

I might buy some silver bear to stash, but I want some ammo to train with.

Never shot this stuff before.. reliable? at least semi accurate?

[never enough]

Thats a good deal. Never had a problem with wolf ammo

[post-apocalyptic]

That ammo's ok, but I'd probably buy Golden Tiger 124gr FMJ or Wolf "Military Classic" 124gr JHP instead. Here, check out this site: http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=7.62x39

[Cracker7]

I don't even look online anymore for deals. I just head over to Walmart and pick up some Tula for $5 a box. Maybe not the best, but it works good for the range and is cheap. Not saying Walmart is the answer, but for me it's right down the road and we are talking Russian ammo. Lol

[zhix]

I might buy 7.62X39 for $5.00 from Walmart if I was only getting a box or two at time, but that adds up to over $50 more per case than I've recently paid for 124gr. WPA.

[QNman]

My ak likes 123g wolf. It shoots as well as any other ammo through it. YMMV.

[adamg01]

Originally Posted by post-apocalyptic

That ammo's ok, but I'd probably buy Golden Tiger 124gr FMJ or Wolf "Military Classic" 124gr JHP instead. Here, check out this site: http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=7.62x39

I'm with you on the GT. The other one I prefer is Brown Bear.

[post-apocalyptic]

Originally Posted by adamg01

I'm with you on the GT. The other one I prefer is Brown Bear.

Barnaul, (makers of the "Bear" ammunition), does produce good ammo. I've got ~500 BB rnds in 7.62x51, (for my Saiga .308; fantastic rifle), andl 1k Silver Bear x39 FMJ, but overall, GT, (7.62x39), is what I buy in the highest quantity. It's lacquered, (great for storage), non-corrosive ammo, yet, it's still hotter than dirty-assed Yugo surplus, (which is quite corrosive).

ymmv.

[adamg01]

Originally Posted by post-apocalyptic

Barnaul, (makers of the "Bear" ammunition), does produce good ammo. I've got ~500 BB rnds in 7.62x51, (for my Saiga .308; fantastic rifle), andl 1k Silver Bear x39 FMJ, but overall, GT, (7.62x39), is what I buy in the highest quantity. It's lacquered, (great for storage), non-corrosive ammo, yet, it's still hotter than dirty-assed Yugo surplus, (which is quite corrosive).

ymmv.

I agree. Brown Bear is my second choice. Wolf is too underpowered for me.

[banger]

IMHO...What's the difference.

The AVERAGE A.K. with the best ammo is basically a 4" rifle.

The AVERAGE A.K. With the cheapest ammo is basically a 6" rifle.

The net result is the AVERAGE A.K. is a 150 yard rifle.

Might as well save the money.

[adamg01]

Originally Posted by banger

IMHO...What's the difference.

The AVERAGE A.K. with the best ammo is basically a 4" rifle.

The AVERAGE A.K. With the cheapest ammo is basically a 6" rifle.

The net result is the AVERAGE A.K. is a 150 yard rifle.

Might as well save the money.

If you can only get 150 out of your Ak, that is a personal problem. I get 200yd accuracy with irons out of all three of my Aks. The only reason I don't practice longer is the range only goes 200.

[my762buzz]

Originally Posted by adamg01

If you can only get 150 out of your Ak, that is a personal problem. I get 200yd accuracy with irons out of all three of my Aks. The only reason I don't practice longer is the range only goes 200.

Someone recently put up a 500 yard AK video on glocktalk.
Two cameras in sync landing shots in a decent group.
The caliber was 7.62x39. The guy had so many people putting up hater comments on you tube that he withdrew the video. I saw it twice the day it went up.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1407054

[adamg01]

Originally Posted by my762buzz

Someone recently put up a 500 yard AK video on glocktalk.
Two cameras in sync landing shots in a decent group.
The caliber was 7.62x39. The guy had so many people putting up hater comments on you tube that he withdrew the video. I saw it twice the day it went up.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1407054

That is damn impressive. I think I can do 250 but ammo, iron sights, and ability would limit me from much further than that.

[my762buzz]

Originally Posted by adamg01

That is damn impressive. I think I can do 250 but ammo, iron sights, and ability would limit me from much further than that.

Anytime people comment that AK rifles are generally 4 or more inch patterns at 100 yards the comment is based on very broad ideas of the platform.

How good is the ammo? Are the powder charges consistent?
Are the bullets squeezing tightly through the bore or are they flopping side to side as they zip through? Is the bore worn out? Are there any odd nicks or chips on the crown? Is the crown indexed correctly?

Is the chamber made to offical spec or quite loose so that it will garantee wide patterns? How bad is the headspace yes this does matter? Is there oil in the firing pin hole or is it bone dry for best accuracy?

Is the barrel to trunnion contact even or irregular? Are there any pinned on blocks even slightly loose along the barrel?
Is the muzzle device on tight or loose enough to add MOA?
Is the handguard evenly pressed against the barrel or are there irregular pressure points when holding it differently that will change barrel harmonics?

There are many variables that are not considered.
Using the notch/post sights is another skill to aquire.
99% of the time the accuracy evaluations are extremely subjective due to the mechanical variables and the shooters skill level with notch and post sights. I got a feeling that if someone were to attach the same notch and post sights on an AR15 with the same radius you might see 4 inch or worse groups for many shooters.

Yet even considering all this, ammo quality is probably the major factor in most AK accuracy evaluations.

[Polak]

I just paid $229 shipped/insured to me for 1000 rounds of 7.62 wolf.

[fuzzy03cls]

I refuse to use wolf ammo. Any wolf ammo in any caliber. Been burned by them & avoid it. I get great groups from golden tiger at 100 yards.

[adamg01]

Originally Posted by fuzzy03cls

I refuse to use wolf ammo. Any wolf ammo in any caliber. Been burned by them & avoid it. I get great groups from golden tiger at 100 yards.

If you read the stats and checkout chonographs, it is pretty inaccurate and very underpowered. I would plink with it but no way I would buy it in bulk as my "go to" ammo. Too many better choices out there such as anything Barnaul (Brown, Silver, or Golden Bear). Golden Tiger is probably the most accurate, designed for long-term storage, averages over 2,300fps, and it is close in price to all the other big names.

I avoid Wolf and Tula personally. I am not saying they are garbage, I just feel like Brown Bear and GT are better all around.

[geofri]

Thanks for all the input fellas.

I ended up canceling my order on the wolf, and getting 1k rounds of Golden Tiger from wideners for just one cent more per round! ($0.245 per round including shipping).

[adamg01]

Originally Posted by geofri

Thanks for all the input fellas.

I ended up canceling my order on the wolf, and getting 1k rounds of Golden Tiger from wideners for just one cent more per round! ($0.245 per round including shipping).

I am sure all your research told you it was superior to the underpowered Wolf. Wideners is good to go.

[Shepherds_Hook_47]

These guys do a good job...

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/762x39

Thats my $0.02
muhahahahha...

[geofri]

Originally Posted by adamg01

I am sure all your research told you it was superior to the underpowered Wolf. Wideners is good to go.

A little show to ship...card charged, but no ammo yet.
Been 8 days, called today, they say maybe it will get shipped by the end of the week..