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04-07-2012, 01:15
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I'm 10-8
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Location: New Mexico
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Guy hates cops, lets me know it!
Not sure if anyone has run into this issue with cop haters, but kinda of an interesting story. So tonight myself and two other of my fellow deputies are just patrolling when my partner conducts a traffic stop. Some random individual driving by, not involved in that traffic stop, slow rolls by my partner and starts yelling "F'in cops" this and that, and then speeds off.
So naturally my partner and I figure this guy really wants to talk about something. We pull this guy over and right away he starts acting like an ass. We come to find out that the only reason he yelled at my partner, started crap with me and two other deputies on the side of the road was simply, "because he hates cops!"
We pull this guy out of his car and have a nice professional conversation about how he is a grown ass man and should act like one. He continually said the only reason we pulled him over was to harass him. Of course he was cited for traffic infraction that was PC for the initial stop. I swear I've never seen anybody go out of their way to antagonize the POPO like that. Just thought I would share with everyone tonight.
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04-07-2012, 01:17
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STOP RESISTING!
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Did you get his gt username? Sounds like a serious poster of GnG.
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04-07-2012, 01:18
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I ignore them. Giving them attention is what they want the most. Want to frustrate them? Just blow kisses at them and wave.
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04-07-2012, 01:25
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I'm 10-8
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New Mexico
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Kisses sounds like a plan... Going to have to try that. Unfortunately his GnG username was something he refused to give us.
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04-07-2012, 01:42
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Cover is Code 3
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I've had that happen several times.
Most times, I let it go.
One time, sweet karma was working in my favor. A truck drove by a stop I was on, the driver screamed "****ing PIG!!!!" at me, and rolled on past. Several hours later I encountered the truck parked in a business lot, it was about 1" over the line into a handicapped space. I felt bad writing him the $250 parking ticket. No, no I didn't...
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04-07-2012, 01:51
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CLM Number 122
Why so serious?
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I've always yelled: "Same to you" while smiling.
I figured if the person was yelling "F you" to me, and I was called on the carpet for saying "Same to you", no big deal. I mean, If I can't really hear what someone said and take it upon myself to interpret it as a friendly generic greeting, how can I go wrong by reciprocating what they said? 
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04-07-2012, 02:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris
I ignore them. Giving them attention is what they want the most. Want to frustrate them? Just blow kisses at them and wave.
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Thank god! I thought I was the only one that did that. 
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04-07-2012, 03:35
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Trigger Control
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohio Copper
Did you get his gt username? Sounds like a serious poster of GnG.
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Or a PAFOA poster...
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04-07-2012, 04:13
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NRA Life Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New Jersey...sucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohio Copper
Did you get his gt username? Sounds like a serious poster of GnG.
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Yeah, but I can't think of one that would have the huevos to do that in real life, instead of just post it on GT.
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Last edited by Bren; 04-07-2012 at 04:57..
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04-07-2012, 04:33
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Senior Member
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Location: Ex POW in the PRK now N. Phoenix AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanetripwire
Not sure if anyone has run into this issue with cop haters, but kinda of an interesting story. So tonight myself and two other of my fellow deputies are just patrolling when my partner conducts a traffic stop. Some random individual driving by, not involved in that traffic stop, slow rolls by my partner and starts yelling "F'in cops" this and that, and then speeds off.
So naturally my partner and I figure this guy really wants to talk about something. We pull this guy over and right away he starts acting like an ass. We come to find out that the only reason he yelled at my partner, started crap with me and two other deputies on the side of the road was simply, "because he hates cops!"
We pull this guy out of his car and have a nice professional conversation about how he is a grown ass man and should act like one. He continually said the only reason we pulled him over was to harass him. Of course he was cited for traffic infraction that was PC for the initial stop. I swear I've never seen anybody go out of their way to antagonize the POPO like that. Just thought I would share with everyone tonight.
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So, you pull him over with what PC? And yes, you did pull him over to harass him, you just admitted you wanted to "talk to him". Maybe, just maybe, you might have changed his opinion had you not pulled him over and out of his vehicle or cited him, and instead, just left him alone.
You realize that you intentionally put yourself in harm's way doing what you did right?
Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day
Clyde
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04-07-2012, 04:45
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How would it have changed his mind? That is just as dumb as the guy who yelled at this cop.
He said they found PC to stop him, it is pretty easy to get PC if you really want in a car. And here, that is considered, fighting words and he could have been charged.
As for safety, I gaurantee there were several cops there that would have been ready to roll if needed.
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04-07-2012, 04:57
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04-07-2012, 06:04
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Unusual Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris
I ignore them. Giving them attention is what they want the most. Want to frustrate them? Just blow kisses at them and wave.
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Wise words right there. Maybe he's from the est coast?
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04-07-2012, 06:47
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CLM Number 38
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Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenpoprofessor
So, you pull him over with what PC? And yes, you did pull him over to harass him, you just admitted you wanted to "talk to him". Maybe, just maybe, you might have changed his opinion had you not pulled him over and out of his vehicle or cited him, and instead, just left him alone.
You realize that you intentionally put yourself in harm's way doing what you did right?
Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day
Clyde
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Just WOW!!!!!!
Talk about the dumbest, most asinine post of the day. 
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04-07-2012, 06:49
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CLM Number 38
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My record for a single stop was 23 summonses. All issued to the same *********.
He kept talking and I kept writing.
Sometimes the pen IS mightier than the sword.
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04-07-2012, 06:54
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Senior Member
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My reply is a standard, " Sir, I'm not a homosexual but thanks for the offer" when called a mf'er
My standard response is, "Sir, I don't even know your mom".
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04-07-2012, 07:11
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Senior Member
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Location: The Garden State
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenpoprofessor
So, you pull him over with what PC? And yes, you did pull him over to harass him, you just admitted you wanted to "talk to him". Maybe, just maybe, you might have changed his opinion had you not pulled him over and out of his vehicle or cited him, and instead, just left him alone.
You realize that you intentionally put yourself in harm's way doing what you did right?
Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day
Clyde
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Don't need PC to conduct a motor vehicle stop, the requirement is reasonable suspicion of a motor vehicle offense.
If he slowed down enough in traffic to yell at the officers, conditions permitting, it may very well fit into our statute of Obstructing Traffic.
Additionally we could stop under the recognized community caretaking standards. This driver may have very well been trying to get the officer's attention because he needed some kind of help, so they checked on him.
Have a great gun carryin' Krav Maga day
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04-07-2012, 07:18
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Fenced In
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Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer X
Don't need PC to conduct a motor vehicle stop, the requirement is reasonable suspicion of a motor vehicle offense.
If he slowed down enough in traffic to yell at the officers, conditions permitting, it may very well fit into our statute of Obstructing Traffic.
Additionally we could stop under the recognized community caretaking standards. This driver may have very well been trying to get the officer's attention because he needed some kind of help, so they checked on him.
Have a great gun carryin' Krav Maga day
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04-07-2012, 07:19
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Idiots got to be idiots!
Probably done enough to get to know the POPO in the past!
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Have a Nice Day
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04-07-2012, 07:20
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Do they not teach the whole "sticks and stones" rhyme in the academy?
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04-07-2012, 07:24
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Fenced In
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Location: KY
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Don't they teach people "Don't poke the bear? Especially the one in the Smokey hat?"
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Originally Posted by series1811
The first round is a moral decision. All of the following rounds are tactical decisions.
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04-07-2012, 07:24
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I am just surprised you have not encountered this type of behavior before. Cop baiting has been around as long as there have been cops.
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04-07-2012, 08:08
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No Infidels!
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Without agreeing with Clyde's post wholesale, it sounds like your stop was BS.
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04-07-2012, 08:53
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The reason I stopped you isn't the same thing as the reason I looked at you. And it doesn't have to be.
Behavior that's tolerated in Phoenix, that bastion of civility, isn't the same thing as behavior that's tolerated in Mayberry. And it doesn't have to be.
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Last edited by Sam Spade; 04-07-2012 at 08:55..
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04-07-2012, 08:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seanmac45
Just WOW!!!!!!
Talk about the dumbest, most asinine post of the day. |
The day is young yet. 
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