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Old 04-02-2012, 13:08   #1
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Rule Number One

I know many preppers say you should work on getting credit debt paid off first, or stock this or that first.

How many of you have taken an honest assessment of your phycical condition? If the SHTF, are you in good enough shape to survive and protect yourself and your family? If not, will your family members survive without you? Regardless of whether your SHTF event is as simple as getting attacked by a single BG, or as bad as TEOTWAWKI, are you fit enough to fight and survive?

I was on vacation last week at an indoor waterpark. I noticed that only about 4 people out of the crowd seemed to be in good shape. The rest were pretty fluffy. At least I know where I will get my food if things get desperate enough.

Remember rule number 1: Cardio

Without the ability to physically overcome any survival scenarios, does any other preps even matter? I am speaking to those who are not disabled.
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Old 04-02-2012, 14:06   #2
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I totally agree. Cardio above all else.
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Old 04-02-2012, 14:31   #3
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Greatly under-stressed imo. Might be that I'm overly conscious of it, being closer to 60 than 40 and having to work at things more than I used to. But look at the "prepper" videos on youtube with 400-lb guys packing up a 60lb BOB; with 30 lbs of that pack weight being weapons. Problems is, fitness just isn't as fun a topic as 'which gun', 'which vehicle', or "at what point do you eat your neighbor's kids?".

I did some work at the church this saturday, breaking up & removing some asphalt & concrete to re-do some drainage areas; using a shovel, pick and jackhammer. It was the first time in near 20 years I used a jackhammer, and I paid for it some on sunday. I'm fairly strong, but the jackhammer did remind me of my own limitations.

I don't know if I'd say cardio 'above all else' because the few tussles I've been in it was invariably brute strength that made the difference in my personal case; but I absolutely agree that cardio is probably the most negelected aspect for most people, myself included if I don't actively stay on myself about it. (Lifting weights is fun, cardio is more like work. But like the man said, "You don't have to like it, you just have to do it"... )
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Old 04-02-2012, 14:38   #4
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Paleo or Primal diet is the solution that they need.

The cardio does help it little but if they keep up with their nasty diet then the cardio effort means nothing. 90% of people don’t know how to live without a sugar, bread, flour, HCFS, and soda.

Diet is number 1. It has the direct impact on your health’s wellness. If you have fixed your diet, then the cardio and weight-lifting will get you the result you have desired for. You'll be far better than 90% of the population.
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Old 04-02-2012, 14:49   #5
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Right. I simply said rule number one is cardio because its something that anyone who has seen Zombieland can identify with.

Regardless of your workouts, if you aren't eating right then you are wasting your time working out. I read somewhere that diet is 80 percent of getting or staying in shape. Diet is the foundation of fitness just like I'm trying to get the point across that fitness (if able-bodied) should be the foundation of prepping.
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Old 04-02-2012, 15:04   #6
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why worry about your credit card balances if shtf?

i mean if you have to retreat or bunker down in a hide out, do you think the ups man will just drive up to your door with an order of ammo for you?
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Old 04-02-2012, 15:10   #7
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why worry about your credit card balances if shtf?

i mean if you have to retreat or bunker down in a hide out, do you think the ups man will just drive up to your door with an order of ammo for you?
That's not what this thread is about. You are nitpicking an irrelevant point.
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Old 04-02-2012, 15:12   #8
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I know many preppers say you should work on getting credit debt paid off first, or stock this or that first.
How many of you have taken an honest assessment of your phycical condition? If the SHTF, are you in good enough shape to survive and protect yourself and your family? If not, will your family members survive without you? Regardless of whether your SHTF event is as simple as getting attacked by a single BG, or as bad as TEOTWAWKI, are you fit enough to fight and survive?

I was on vacation last week at an indoor waterpark. I noticed that only about 4 people out of the crowd seemed to be in good shape. The rest were pretty fluffy. At least I know where I will get my food if things get desperate enough.

Remember rule number 1: Cardio

Without the ability to physically overcome any survival scenarios, does any other preps even matter? I am speaking to those who are not disabled.
it was the first thing you brought up.
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That's not what this thread is about. You are nitpicking an irrelevant point.
sorry, just commenting on your post.
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Old 04-02-2012, 15:42   #10
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Sorry guys, I should have written this down earlier.
#1. Live in reality.
#2. Don't talk about your preps to those who are not in the inner circle of trust.

Somewhere down the line is personal health.


Until recently I was letting my health slide, but I have reached the age where I will have to spend more time working on keeping healthy. You will be seeing less of me over the next couple months and that is a good thing.
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Maybe the way you guys live is different, but I use cardio every day. So for me cardio is #1, and personal health is not 'somewhere down the line.' Strength is desirable, but for me it comes after cardio. Generally I can figure out a way to get around brute strength (and sometimes not!), but when you need cardio, you gotta have it, and nothing else will do.
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Old 04-02-2012, 16:13   #12
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When it comes to a tussel, RunFu works best
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Old 04-02-2012, 16:49   #13
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When it comes to a tussel, RunFu works best
True, as long as possible.

Problem is that RunFu skills gradually weaken, and the options turn toward the choice of "StompFu" vs "StompedFu" (and I've also been working on my "Diplomacy Kwan Do" as well, truth be told). Push comes to shove, I guess the final option is GlockRyu.

Last year, was messing around with one of the neighbor kids and after him asking why I worked so much on arm & wrist strength (I got him down repeatedly & he never got me even though he's a college football player), I explained the simple truth. I'm just too old & slow to outrun trouble anymore, so I need to be able to both squush it, as well as willing & able to absorb punishment in the process. I'd rather have the option of RunFu in addition to as many others as possible; but that one's gradually and irrevocably abandoning me.

Avoidance is the best policy, agree 100%; whether it's a brushfire, a gunfight, or rising floodwaters. Thing is, I can't outrun some of the things that I used to be able to so I have to fall back to a plan 'B' so to speak.

Can't remember the old saying... Something along the lines of "don't mess with an old guy. He's too stubborn to take a butt-whooping anymore, so he's liable to just shoot you."

Another one that cracked me up was a number of years ago Granny (my wife's grandmother, 90 or 91 at the time) was bad angry about some arkansas politician in the news, and popped off with something along the lines of, "Oughta just shoot 'im. A life sentence now don't mean the same as it used to."
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Old 04-02-2012, 17:00   #14
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why worry about your credit card balances if shtf?
Because unless you're talking end-of-the-world SHTF, your financial situation matters.

Continual credit card balances are about the dumbest financial mistake people make.

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Another one that cracked me up was a number of years ago Granny (my wife's grandmother, 90 or 91 at the time) was bad angry about some arkansas politician in the news, and popped off with something along the lines of, "Oughta just shoot 'im. A life sentence now don't mean the same as it used to."
What a liberating notion! Make a list and get to it when you're 90.

Remember the geezer hitman in Sopranos? Gets the job done then kills himself reaching for his inhalator while driving.
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Old 04-02-2012, 18:09   #16
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I run 4-5 miles 6 days a week. Sometimes longer if time permits. Cycle couple of times a week also. Have done for years. I'm not in the greatest shape in the world but if push comes to shove I could run quite a distance if I had to.
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Old 04-02-2012, 21:23   #17
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Well I thought rule #1 was keep your mouth shut.

Somebody's gonna have to make up their minds on this, cause you all are confusing me.
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Old 04-02-2012, 22:28   #18
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LOL! I am fat, outta shape (Unless ROUND is not a shape!) but last I checked, there wasn't TOO many situations I planned on getting in that involved a "Voluntary" or an "Involuntary" marathon. Besides, I can't out run a bullet...even if I am in better shape than my first sentence alluded to...Or even as good a shape as some who post here... Either way, I suspect I'll still have enough cardio in me to put a few downrange... Apologies if you are downrange...

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Quote: "I noticed that only about 4 people out of the crowd seemed to be in good shape. The rest were pretty fluffy. At least I know where I will get my food if things get desperate enough."

My rule number one is to take out the people who make comments like this.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:14   #20
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Quote: "I noticed that only about 4 people out of the crowd seemed to be in good shape. The rest were pretty fluffy. At least I know where I will get my food if things get desperate enough."

My rule number one is to take out the peoople who make comments like this.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:25   #21
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Because unless you're talking end-of-the-world SHTF, your financial situation matters.

Continual credit card balances are about the dumbest financial mistake people make.
tis true. but what kind of shtf scenario is being considered? hurricane katrina, tornado, earth quake? shtf and staying put yes, things will get fixed and so on. bugging out and worried about some zombie crap, no.

ive read so much stuff on here that is way out there that i take most of it as the end of the world stuff the way some folks talk.

if you mean surviving a week until "fema" or national guard comes in with the red cross then yes, keep your credit good.

if you mean governmental collaps then no.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:45   #22
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Fat is just pre-deployed survival rations :P

One thing I think we will see return in a big way in a SHTF scenario is the "threat display". I think modern man is far to eager to engage in physical conflict because they know there is a extensive medical intrastructure backing them up. Take that away though and punching someone in the face can kill you from an infection contracted from scrapping against the teeth. So rather than actually fight, folks will emulate the animals and have a puffed up threat display. Just look at gang members, they have retained these customs.

Anyway, this is a long winded way of saying run-fu is paramount, superceeded only by "looking tough-fu"

As for the credit thing, having your finances in order is because getting your stuff repoed WILL happen, it is not a hypothetical. I can guarantee being broke makes life hard. SHFT may never happen, but troubles from being in debt ALWAYS happen.
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I did this recently - 11 hrs rt, 8 miles rt, 4,400 vertical feet gain over 4 miles, snowshoeing required below the tree line - age high 50s

I wonder how many people that talk about bugging out with their bug out bag could do it?
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I did this recently - 11 hrs rt, 8 miles rt, 4,400 vertical feet gain over 4 miles, snowshoeing required below the tree line - age high 50s

I wonder how many people that talk about bugging out with their bug out bag could do it?
That's awesome!
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Three weeks ago, to the top, and my wife & two nieces went all the way up as well:
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Don't know details on altitude & such, it's just something to do. Too snaky & ticky for my tastes once the weather gets warmer, so it's a spring thing.
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