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Old 03-31-2012, 11:01   #1001
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:12   #1002
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My personal opinion, though, is a little bit different than that of author Bennett's. After listening to my favorite quintessential, 'snake oil salesman', Chuck Schumer, on TV the other night, I think what's really happening with this media-hyped rage and hysteria over the Martin shooting incident is just one more way the national news media is exploring in order to damn the rights of American citizens to keep and bear arms - I really do!
You may be right about that. They will keep beating the drum since Fast & Furious is on the ropes.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:03   #1003
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...nipulate-Media

Flashback: Al Sharpton Explains How To Manipulate Media

(not that I'm willing to give him all the credit either)

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Old 03-31-2012, 15:08   #1004
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What is wrong with people?

Did they really think nobody would get on them about this?

Are they really this freaking concerned with creating racial tension???
I am only stating what you already know, when I say the media would like riots to cover.
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Old 03-31-2012, 15:33   #1005
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I am only stating what you already know, when I say the media would like riots to cover.
I hear what you are saying, but I don't remember a race riot under GWB's 8 years. Media has been the same? Please correct me if I am wrong.

When was Rodney King's ? 1992 ? Clinton's ?

Do you see a pattern? Dems Prez tenure = riots
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Old 03-31-2012, 17:25   #1006
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I am only stating what you already know, when I say the media would like riots to cover.
I doubt the media is purposely trying to insight a riot. They are just spinning the story to make it sound like much more than it really is. It wouldn't be the news if they just reported the facts without embellishing.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:50   #1007
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I doubt the media is purposely trying to insight a riot. They are just spinning the story to make it sound like much more than it really is. It wouldn't be the news if they just reported the facts without embellishing.
You trust the media more than me.
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I am only stating what you already know, when I say the media would like riots to cover.
I hope the journalists 'embedded' with the rioters are the first to go down.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:37   #1009
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I am only stating what you already know, when I say the media would like riots to cover.
Years ago I was trying to break into journalism. I was turning in, what I thought, to be some great written pieces, but nothing was getting published. When I personally confronted the one responsible for "killing" my work, he said, "I just can't use what you're doing, listen, if it bleeds, it leads," and then he walked away.

I promise the all the mass media's outlets would love to be able to cover race riots in Florida or around the country stemming from the M & Z event. They'd sell it to their advertisers at a premium!
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Flashback: Al Sharpton Explains How To Manipulate Media

(not that I'm willing to give him all the credit either)

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It's reasonable to see you shed that previous impartiality when you've acquired enough of a manufactured counter argument. Preach the controversy!
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:31   #1011
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:47   #1012
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Flashback: Al Sharpton Explains How To Manipulate Media

(not that I'm willing to give him all the credit either)

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There's nothing wrong with bringing the media spotlight onto a situation that needs exposing. Its a good thing to have the ability to do that. Having said that, the Spider-man Doctrine applies here. "With great power comes great responsibility".

Just like guns. The problem isn't the guns, or the media manipulation. Its the people and what they use the guns/media to do.

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Old 04-01-2012, 12:09   #1013
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There's nothing wrong with bringing the media spotlight onto a situation that needs exposing. Its a good thing to have the ability to do that. Having said that, the Spider-man Doctrine applies here. "With great power comes great responsibility".

Just like guns. The problem isn't the guns, or the media manipulation. Its the people and what they use the guns/media to do.

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I see nothing wrong with bringing media attention and not backing off when there is an injustice, a right is being violated or at an attempt to sweep something under the rug. When it is done maliciously to pin people against one another for personal gain (whether it be for money, publicity, power, etc.) it is despicable. I may be wrong (I can’t read Zimmerman’s mind) but I don’t believe this tragic incident had the racial undertones others are attempting to give it. I still believe it was a preventable tragic incident, but that doesn’t make it something else.

Good people die every day because someone else made a terrible mistake. Others because another intended harm toward them. I believe this one falls in the prior category.

In other words, we’re in agreement.


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Old 04-01-2012, 12:53   #1014
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Old 04-01-2012, 13:05   #1015
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FWIW: I do not see a "change", just yet another "opinion".
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Old 04-01-2012, 13:16   #1016
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I see nothing wrong with bringing media attention and not backing off when there is an injustice, a right is being violated or at an attempt to sweep something under the rug. When it is done maliciously to pin people against one another for personal gain (whether it be for money, publicity, power, etc.) it is despicable. I may be wrong (I can’t read Zimmerman’s mind) but I don’t believe this tragic incident had the racial undertones others are attempting to give it. I still believe it was a preventable tragic incident, but that doesn’t make it something else.

Good people die every day because someone else made a terrible mistake. Others because another intended harm toward them. I believe this one falls in the prior category.

In other words, we’re in agreement.


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I have no idea whether the shooting was right or wrong, and I hope that Zimmerman gets a fair trial, if it goes to trial.

That said, if it was my teenage son who was killed, I would want answers. The Sanford police weren't responsive enough to the parent's media's questions, and because of that they fueled the media frenzy.
I think it sucks that Zimmerman is getting tried in the court of public opinion, and that a lot of this might have been avoided had the Sanford police been forthright with the information they have.
If it turns out they didn't do their job, it would have been better to figure that out right away, rather than through Grand Jury (and other) investigations. If they did do their job, they should have provided the facts much sooner.
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I have no idea whether the shooting was right or wrong, and I hope that Zimmerman gets a fair trial, if it goes to trial.

That said, if it was my teenage son who was killed, I would want answers. The Sanford police weren't responsive enough to the parent's media's questions, and because of that they fueled the media frenzy.
I think it sucks that Zimmerman is getting tried in the court of public opinion, and that a lot of this might have been avoided had the Sanford police been forthright with the information they have.
If it turns out they didn't do their job, it would have been better to figure that out right away, rather than through Grand Jury (and other) investigations. If they did do their job, they should have provided the facts much sooner.
What is your answer to this?
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Old 04-01-2012, 13:39   #1018
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If you are a lawfully armed citizen, you bring a gun into any situation you are involved in. No matter if you are right, wrong or sideways...you bring a gun into it. No matter if no-one even realizes that you are armed... you bring a gun into it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that as long as you consider the potiential for violence prior to jumping head long into something. I pass no guilt or innocent judgement on Mr Zimmerman but if (being armed) you want to chase a "suspicious" teen through the neighborhood- you have to consider "is it worth it" "is it prudent" when they may at any moment- decide to stop running. I am not against being armed or against community watches but I am against putting yourself (the armed citizen) into a possibly violent conflict over something that is not urgent.
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The Sanford police weren't responsive enough to the parent's media's questions, and because of that they fueled the media frenzy.
How could they be with an ongoing investigation? Seems to me some of these things are inherent to the system and people need to let it play out. I'm sure that's a tough thing to do, but screaming "foul" before anything has been determined doesn't help anybody.
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I pass no guilt or innocent judgement on Mr Zimmerman but if (being armed) you want to chase a "suspicious" teen through the neighborhood- you have to consider "is it worth it" when they decide to stop running.
Like many posters, you have misstated the facts - undisputed facts - of what is alleged to have happened. There is no version of this story claiming anybody ran or was chased, only that Zimmerman followed or walked toward Martin.
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