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Old 03-28-2012, 18:31   #861
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I think that there has been no confirmation of the "broken" nose. Bloody nose has been most often the phrase I have seen. Broken seems may be an exaggeration or mistake. I don't think thats been confirmed for sure.

I can't really tell much from the video.
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Old 03-28-2012, 18:34   #862
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State attorney Angela Corey indicated her office, not a grand jury, will decide whether to bring charges in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...spotlight.html

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State attorney Angela Corey indicated her office, not a grand jury, will decide whether to bring charges in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...spotlight.html

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Interesting... I'm not sure if that's good or bad for Zimmerman. She seems kind of "no nonsense"... so if he's really not guilty, this is probably good for him.
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Old 03-28-2012, 18:45   #864
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It's quite possible Zimmerman drew the gun during the assault(or it fell out), and when Trayvon saw him w/ a gun, a struggle ensued over the gun.
I read somewhere it fell out during their struggle, but I don't recall where and don't think it was any of the police documents, so don't put much stock in it.

I don't wish to engage in speculation, but I have not heard any account yet that purported that Zimmerman had produced the pistol before the struggle between Martin and Z ensued. Of course, Z is presumably the only known living "witness" to that portion of the encounter.
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Old 03-28-2012, 18:55   #865
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Al Sharpton interviewing one of the mothers of a 13 year old boy/witness...
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Question - If Zimmermans gun was concealed how did Trayvon go for his gun?
His shirt could have ridden up during the fight, Trayvon could have felt during the struggle or perhaps it fell it while he was on the ground.
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Old 03-28-2012, 19:11   #867
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His shirt could have ridden up during the fight, Trayvon could have felt during the struggle or perhaps it fell it while he was on the ground.
If that is the case does that change that idea that Trayvon's actions were in self defense...

Everyone has been saying that Zimmerman was in fear for his life...if the gun is present does that mean that maybe Trayvon was in fear for his life?
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Old 03-28-2012, 19:19   #868
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State attorney Angela Corey indicated her office, not a grand jury, will decide whether to bring charges in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...spotlight.html

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Appreciate that link. I was just trying to find out some more about her today.

Seems like she has a mixed reputation in the minority community. I guess all anyone could ask is for a prosecutor who was out to find the facts and impartially imply the law. I suppose the Governor is trying to place this in the hands of somebody who's opinion will have the most credibility with the most people looking on. I always thought that was one of the purposes of convening a GJ, though I don't know anything about the demographics of that county and sometimes that starts looking stacked in favor of or against a particular minority.
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That is George Zimmerman?

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That is George Zimmerman?

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apparently...
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If that is the case does that change that idea that Trayvon's actions were in self defense...

Everyone has been saying that Zimmerman was in fear for his life...if the gun is present does that mean that maybe Trayvon was in fear for his life?
I suspect both parties were likely in fear of their lives.
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Police department report shows Trayvon Martins full name, date of birth, and street address but his body was tagged as a John Doe?

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I suspect both parties were likely in fear of their lives.
Didn't mean to make it seem like I was calling you out...general question.
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Poor images. I don't think you can say much about injuries or their absence from this. Initial police report documented them, I'm sure the SFD medics who tended to him at the scene have documentation and I'd be quite surprised if the police didn't take photos once he was in the station. He reportedly was seen by medical personnel the next day as well. I'll wait for all of that to surface.
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Police department report shows Trayvon Martins full name, date of birth, and street address but his body was tagged as a John Doe?
Probably were awaiting a positive ID.
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Probably were awaiting a positive ID.
3 days?
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apparently...
Doesn’t really look like either of his pictures. Additionally, he was supposedly nearly 100 lbs heavier than Martin. That man doesn’t look like he weighs 260 lbs.

ETA: Police report said he is 5'9" news articles said the weight.

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3 days?
Could you share the link where you found this? You didn't indicate a time frame.
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Doesn’t really look like either of his pictures. Additionally, he was supposedly nearly 100 lbs heavier than Martin. That man doesn’t look like he weighs 260 lbs.

ETA: Policy report said he is 5'9" news articles said the weight.

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Maybe 210 from the pic but I am no expert.
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Could you share the link where you found this? You didn't indicate a time frame.
They mention it in the video.
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