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Old 04-17-2012, 17:38   #1
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Reloads jamming, What am I doing wrong?

Iv made adjustments, every thing seems to be within tolerances, any suggestions?
You can see the scrape marks here. Im don't even have to shoot the damn thing I can just load the magazine up with 15 rounds and rack the slide until all bullets have been expelled and at least 1 out of the 15 will fail to let the slide rack forward all the way, it sets about 1/4 inch unracked.

This is done with two glock 26s and a glock 19. It's defiantly my reloads.

Iv loaded with these rcbs dies before many years ago just started back doing 9mm but am having issues grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Old 04-17-2012, 17:51   #2
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How is the overall length? Difficult to tell but the bullet might not be seated deep enough.
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Old 04-17-2012, 17:52   #3
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Looks like the bullets are being driven into the rifling. That suggests your loads are too long for this gun. Please don't bother insisting that they're loaded to standard OAL. The operative phrase is ". . . for this gun." Load them shorter. You might also have a gunsmith check out the area forward of the chamber.
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Old 04-17-2012, 17:57   #4
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Looks like the bullets are seated quite a bit too long. 1.150-1.160" would be worth a try.
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Old 04-17-2012, 18:00   #5
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Well the oal is about the same as my 115gr RN 9mm factory ammo. I used my caliber to measure it but I may have to try seating it a little lower I was a little worried about raising pressure. I may try it and see how it goes.

Of those 3 I posted pics of I had 1.157, 1.160 and 1.162

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Old 04-17-2012, 18:16   #6
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Factory barrel?
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Old 04-17-2012, 18:25   #7
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Reloading

I might be mistaken but this chaps first name might have a little something to do with your probrem.
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Old 04-17-2012, 18:26   #8
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By "Jamming" I guess you mean Failure To Feed(FTF) which could possible be an OAL problem. Get out the Calipers and measure your rounds then look in your book and see what the OAL should be for that bullet. If they're a bit long then seat the bullet a bit further into the case so you'll be at the proper OAL then give it another try. Get back to us with the results.

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Also, from the pic it doesn't look like you have much if any crimp on those rounds. The 9x19mm is a tapered round and you need to put a small taper crimp on it to get rid of the bell you put on the case to start the bullet. Check that too while you've got the calipers out.
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Old 04-17-2012, 18:30   #9
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My eyes ? or is there still a bell in that brass ? If that was rifling there would be more than one . That looks like a drag on feed against something . There is a nick in the brass as well. That ain't rifling . Have you tried removing the barrel and just dropping the round in to see how those rounds settle yet ?
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What's a caliper and why do you need one? Is it that organ like thing they play at the circus?


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Old 04-17-2012, 18:45   #11
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I don't have a lot of reloading experience so I probably should keep quiet, but it can't be an OAL problem because the gouge marks extend into the brass
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What's a caliper and why do you need one? Is it that organ like thing they play at the circus?


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Old 04-17-2012, 19:05   #14
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Racking the slide tells you very little. Take the barrel out of the gun and see if they drop in the chamber. That is the process.

Those marks are from the lever that depresses the firing pin drop safety. Notice it goes all the way to the brass, not just on the bullet. Your aggressive racking of.the slide caused the issue. You have a very sharp edge on it that needs to be filed off.
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Old 04-17-2012, 19:12   #15
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Yes its factory barrel

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By "Jamming" I guess you mean Failure To Feed(FTF) which could possible be an OAL problem. Get out the Calipers and measure your rounds then look in your book and see what the OAL should be for that bullet. If they're a bit long then seat the bullet a bit further into the case so you'll be at the proper OAL then give it another try. Get back to us with the results.

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Also, from the pic it doesn't look like you have much if any crimp on those rounds. The 9x19mm is a tapered round and you need to put a small taper crimp on it to get rid of the bell you put on the case to start the bullet. Check that too while you've got the calipers out.
They are berrys bullets, there not in my lyman book so I made a guess, I will try a small taper crimp, great suggestions, thank you. I'll try seating the bullet a little deeper too. Thanks.

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My eyes ? or is there still a bell in that brass ? If that was rifling there would be more than one . That looks like a drag on feed against something . There is a nick in the brass as well. That ain't rifling . Have you tried removing the barrel and just dropping the round in to see how those rounds settle yet ?
Correct, drag mark in bullet and in brass. Good suggestion on barrel drop test I will do that.

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I don't have a lot of reloading experience so I probably should keep quiet, but it can't be an OAL problem because the gouge marks extend into the brass
Yes the gouge marks to extend into the brass.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. I'll try these tomorrow as soon as I get home from work. It's poring down a river out side right now and I have my set up in the shed outside.

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Old 04-17-2012, 19:19   #16
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Here is one more photo and I will work on these tomorrow, thanks guys.

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Old 04-17-2012, 19:21   #17
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I had the same issue years ago and it was suggested:
Get a Wilson case gauge;
and a Lee factory crimp die.
I've never had one run through the Lee Factory crimp die that would not drop easy into the Wilson gauge and anything that fits it, drops/feeds into the weapon.
Lead and plated bullets I load seem to need the Factory crimp die the most.
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