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Old 03-04-2012, 09:56   #21
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what do you see different? Is it fit and finish?
Can you tell me why people feel the all German guns are better? Which is west German correct?
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:24   #22
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Fit and finish is the big issue....QC/attention to detail.

Sig 229's are not "all German" (except for e VERY FEW 1994 made ones)........yet they came out of Exiter (1990's-05'ish) every bit as good as any all W. German made classic.

Some people love the carbon steel/folded slides....which happen to be all German/W. German...and therefore "stick" to that as being the glory days of Sig.

My 228 is 94' German made.....my 226 is W. German made.....truly great guns. They are my 2 carbon/folded slide versions.

"Most" of my 229's are mid to late 90's vintage, a few are early to mid 2000's....all 229's are stainless/milled slides......equally great guns.

I have had several 229's and 226's of newer vintage (railed), all were reliable and accurate, but things like frame rails showing wear/gouging thru the anodizing quickly, Nitron finish missing on interior of slides, and deeper wear marks/grooves in barrels/hoods bothered me (beyond the normal "smileys" Sigs are known for)..........these things seem, "TO ME", to coincide with the "railed" versions coming out.
SO, I seek out older ones.....personal choice.
I do believe the newer Sigs will serve most buyers well, and they will love them....but I will stick to what works for me.

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Old 03-04-2012, 11:55   #23
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Which do you like best? 6 of one, half dozen of the other?
IMO the white lithium grease dries up faster. It still provides adequate lube, I just had to reapply every two weeks or so.

Since my P226 is a duty gun I like the Hoppes because I dont have to worry about reapplying except every 4 weeks or so.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:16   #24
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This is what Sig recommends and is the only gun grease that I use. It's good stuff!
Sig sends "or at least did" a small packet of tw25b from the factory and recommends it for their firearms. I have used that and at one time needed to fall back on my tetra grease which was fine but I ordered the tw25b again and now use it exclusively on the sig!

Great guns, great trigger and I have a USA made P229 enhanced elite and has fed everything I put in it and has been very very accurate! Get the new P220 with the E2 grips on it! just saw one and felt great in the hand!
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:29   #25
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I picked up a Sig P229 Elite Dark a couple months ago and have been very pleased with it. It is a damn fine shooter, reliable, and accurate as hell. Sig has recently come out with some pistols that a pimp in Detroit would question carrying sad to say.

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Old 03-04-2012, 12:51   #26
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Thanks for the replies and opinions. Going with a new Sig Dark Elite.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:56   #27
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Thanks for the replies and opinions. Going with a new Sig Dark Elite.
Good choice, the Elite Dark is a great looking gun
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Old 03-04-2012, 13:53   #28
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My edc is a Sig P220 Carry w/Hogue G10 grips........ I also own Glocks, like them to, but LOVE my Sigs more (also own a German made P226 in 9mm).
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Old 03-04-2012, 16:06   #29
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I have 1985 sig 226 and its the most reliable semi auto I own.
I have glocks, colts, berettas, smiths, rugers
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Old 03-04-2012, 17:50   #30
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Alot of web hype about welded German slides are better. The truth is the one piece stainless nitron coated U.S. made guns are more robust when it comes to service life,hotter ammo and not rusting. I got rid of my old out dated German pistols for the new U.S. made ones.

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Old 03-04-2012, 19:20   #31
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are the 226 slides stainless? U.S. sigs
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Old 03-04-2012, 20:08   #32
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I will forewarn the OP, buying a Sig is dangerous though as you won't be able to stop with just one!
+1 on this one! I have 7 Glocks and bought my first P226 9mm last year. I shoot it better than any of my Glocks except my G34. I absolutely love the SIG and it's just as reliable as any Glock I own. Now all I can do is think about SIG's. Trying to decide which .40 or .45 cal SIG to get next!
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Old 03-04-2012, 20:17   #33
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I will forewarn the OP, buying a Sig is dangerous though as you won't be able to stop with just one!


You've got that right! I bought a 1991 P228 last summer for my girlfriend, and I've been looking for another one for myself ever since! It's incredibly accurate and has so far been reliable through almost a thousand rounds, and who knows how many were fired in the two decades prior. Hopefully it won't be too long til I find a good deal on another one of similar vintage, then I can start looking for other models.
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Old 03-04-2012, 20:47   #34
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Alot of web hype about welded German slides are better. The truth is the one piece stainless nitron coated U.S. made guns are more robust when it comes to service life,hotter ammo and not rusting. I got rid of my old out dated German pistols for the new U.S. made ones.
I agree. The newer u.s. ones are more robust. They were made stronger to shoot 40 and later the 357. The older German made folded slides Would never hold up. What's there not like? And yes,they are just as reliable. All mine are u.s. made slides and NEVER had one problem with any of them.
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Old 03-04-2012, 21:00   #35
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I have six of them, some German some not. I favor the German made guns, better balance than US made guns. Sig's are great, lube em up and run the hard
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Thanks for the replies and opinions. Going with a new Sig Dark Elite.
Good choice! I'm eye-balling the new scorpions myself.
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Old 03-04-2012, 21:26   #37
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i have the 229 elite dark as well and its insane..i thought the longer extractor would be a problem, its sooooo not...and is it accurate at almost 50 yards??? you tell me..
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Old 03-04-2012, 22:12   #38
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I have five: two W. German P220, a German P245, a 1980 former W. German Police P6 and an early Exeter built P239-9.

Of that litter, I find the P239-9 to be most accurate.

Oh, yes....I have the highly contagious SIG-ness, too, as I'm awaiting the soon to be released 9mm P-938.
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Old 03-05-2012, 00:25   #39
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I have five: two W. German P220, a German P245, a 1980 former W. German Police P6 and an early Exeter built P239-9.

Of that litter, I find the P239-9 to be most accurate.

Oh, yes....I have the highly contagious SIG-ness, too, as I'm awaiting the soon to be released 9mm P-938.
no 224??? lol
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i have the 229 elite dark as well and its insane..i thought the longer extractor would be a problem, its sooooo not...and is it accurate at almost 50 yards??? you tell me..
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It is a Sig after all. Don't expect anything less!

Nice gun and nice shooting!

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