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Old 02-27-2012, 20:52   #1
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FN Five-Seven KABOOM!

Haven't seen much action on this sub-forum lately, but I came upon this story from The Firearm Blog:

http://networkedblogs.com/usxjB

The culprit of the destruction of the weapon (and it was destroyed) is suspected of being having fired out of battery.

Shooter (right-handed) had left hand injured.

Interesting pics.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:55   #2
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i am sorry for the shooter. hope he recovers quickly or has recovered.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:16   #3
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interesting. that was somewhat known with the early curved trigger guard variant but the newer one, not so much.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:21   #4
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Old 03-03-2012, 19:58   #5
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Looks like what happened to my CZ52 pistol about 15 years ago. Best guess is that the case head failed at the 6 o'clock position and the pistol literally exploded as a result Some of the "bad Bulgarian" ammo Century Arms was selling back then. The firing pin shot out the back of the pistol right into my safety glasses.

Of course, I've also had similar case failures when using reloaded ammo in my blow-back SMGs. There, it just blows the mag out of the receiver. But the blown cases look similar.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:58   #6
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It looks like extreme over-pressure, causing early unlocking and subsequent case failure. I've seen this type of failure before. Whether it's due to an improperly loaded cartridge, bullet setback, or a barrel obstruction is anybody's guess. One thing I can say is that it's not the pistol's fault.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:49   #7
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:14   #8
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Terrible I wonder if FN will take care of the incident?
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Old 03-08-2012, 15:28   #9
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WOW...I'm in awe. I have a home in Europe, I was going to buy one to keep out there, no ammo restrictions of any kind so the pistol would be able to fire the ammo it was really made to fire. But after seeing this mess....I dono, may stick to a Glock 17 as 9mm ammo is easiest to find out there. Sucks for the shooter, hope he fully recovers.



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Old 03-08-2012, 16:16   #10
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You guys have to understand there is more to this story. I suggest you not take it as the original poster presents it. Read between the lines here. Reloads nuff said.
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Old 03-08-2012, 16:21   #11
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lately I'm moving more and more away from plastic frames
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:17   #12
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Wow when a five seven KB's it really Kabooms..
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:35   #13
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Wow....that is nasty.
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Old 04-14-2012, 20:27   #14
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Old 04-14-2012, 22:23   #15
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Sorry for the shooter. I just watched a very informative vid on reloading that cartridge. Not for the faint of heart. The Ivan Chesonov comment below the article...classic trollism!
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Old 04-15-2012, 14:58   #16
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Sorry for the shooter. I just watched a very informative vid on reloading that cartridge. Not for the faint of heart. The Ivan Chesonov comment below the article...classic trollism!
That Ivan guy is smoking something good.
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Old 04-15-2012, 15:11   #17
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Ouch. That looks horrible.
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Old 05-26-2012, 08:02   #18
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What's firing out of battery ?
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Old 06-19-2012, 13:18   #19
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What's firing out of battery ?
The round detonating when the slide is not fully engaged.



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WOW...I'm in awe. I have a home in Europe, I was going to buy one to keep out there, no ammo restrictions of any kind so the pistol would be able to fire the ammo it was really made to fire. But after seeing this mess....I dono, may stick to a Glock 17 as 9mm ammo is easiest to find out there. Sucks for the shooter, hope he fully recovers.



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Where in europe? Forgive my ignorance but I was unaware a private citizen could own a handgun anywhere in Europe. I've always said I love Europe but could do without the Europeans, maybe I've found my future home. How are the immigration laws?
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Where in europe? Forgive my ignorance but I was unaware a private citizen could own a handgun anywhere in Europe. I've always said I love Europe but could do without the Europeans, maybe I've found my future home. How are the immigration laws?
I could do without the bigots.
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I could do without the bigots.
Well put esh325.

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Old 07-06-2012, 11:53   #23
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The production rounds run at 50,000psi (I believe), so when one blows up the plastic frame has to absorb the energy. I do like the round/gun combo though-very sweet and accurate shooter.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:53   #24
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Haven't seen much action on this sub-forum lately, but I came upon this story from The Firearm Blog:

http://networkedblogs.com/usxjB

The culprit of the destruction of the weapon (and it was destroyed) is suspected of being having fired out of battery.

Shooter (right-handed) had left hand injured.

Interesting pics.
That is an obvious case of significant overpressure, probably from a reloaded round. The Five/Seven is blowback and an overpressure round will cause the case to eject before the pressure has dropped to a safe level, resulting in a ruptured case. For a Five/Seven to fire this far out of battery would require deliberate modification to the pistol.

The 5.7x28 round is very high pressure (>50k), and there is very little margin for error in reloading it. The guy who experienced the KBoom admitted he was shooting 5.7 reloads earlier in the day, but he is claiming this particular round that blew up was not a reload. This is a doubtful claim.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:57   #25
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To DrtyHarry and Banjobob:

I live in Belgium and we can own every firearm we want, EXCEPT the 5.7x28mm.
In my vault are Rugers (GP100, SR1911, MKII an III...),
Glocks (19, 21 ), Berettas (92FS, Cougar...) and a dozen other fine handguns in mutiple calibers.
The only restriction is the FiveseveN.
This caliber is not allowed for civilian use.
So when DrtyHarry wants to come over: welcome, but leave the
5.7x28mm at home!
Stay safe bro!

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