Home Forums Classifieds GT Store Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups


Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2012, 16:05   #1
Silver Membership
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Alabama
Posts: 99
Something to remember

I'm posting this here instead of the Carry Forum because with the info currently available I feel that it's the more appropriate place. I don't know the details of how the criminal was able to gain control of the vehicle owner's weapon, but it should serve as a reminder to us all that just having a firearm does not guarantee a satisfactory outcome in a confrontation. Tactics and training play an important role in self defense.

Jim Clark
sandworm40 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2012, 16:26   #2
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: N. Florida
Posts: 344
Amen. Thank you Mr. Clark. Well said.
Rumbler_G20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2012, 14:19   #3
Hunc tu caveto
Blaster's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 3,190
Just read the article. A big case of Fail!

The vehicle owner should have called 911 and stayed in his home. He acted stupidly and suffered the consequences. He is lucky to be alive.
Up, Look, Press.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
Blaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2012, 15:19   #4
Senior Member
Gunshine's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,923
Originally Posted by Blaster View Post
Just read the article. A big case of Fail!

The vehicle owner should have called 911 and stayed in his home. He acted stupidly and suffered the consequences. He is lucky to be alive.

This. He went outside with his firearm and tried to detain the suspect. Not a good idea. He called the cops. Next move is to wait for the flashing lights.
Florida Glocker 154

Quote: Ancient_Serpent. Being kind, polite or having class isn't PC.
Gunshine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2012, 18:46   #5
Massive Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 16,999
No doubt going outside to confront the guy was a mistake. That's only the beginning though. That's not even the biggest fail. That's really trivial in this case.

The biggest problem? Obviously he was not prepared to handle a situation where he is confronted on the street through no fault of his own either. Even with all the advantages, knowing there's a bad guy, having time to approach him, having time to get the weapon deployed at his leisure, he still managed to get into a struggle for the weapon he ultimately lost control of and got shot with.

If he can't prevail with a firearm in this situation, no way he'd be able to prevail trying to defend himself if caught by surprise.

He either got way too close, wasn't prepared to actually fire the weapon at a real live person, thought the gun was a magic talisman that hypnotizes bad guys into compliance or all of the above.


Last edited by steveksux; 02-05-2012 at 18:50..
steveksux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2012, 10:53   #6
Senior Member
TactiCool's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Southeast LA.
Posts: 573
The way I see it, if one calls the police, then the situation is in the hands of the police from that point on, unless the perp is an imminent threat to life and limb. If one calls the cops and they show up and see someone outside with a gun they will not necessarily know who is the criminal and who is the homeowner. That is always a dangerous situation for all parties involved. Simply locking the door and waiting for the police to arrive would have been prudent in this situation.
TactiCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2012, 11:30   #7
latin glocker
Que Pasa ?
latin glocker's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 34
Leave it to the pros. I don't have the training nor get the time on the range that the LEO's get so, I'm dialing 911 and waiting for the flashing lights!!
It's better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
latin glocker is offline   Reply With Quote


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:03.

GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
GT Store

Users Currently Online: 1,062
276 Members
786 Guests

Most users ever online: 4,867
May 19, 2015 at 1:03