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Old 01-01-2012, 18:51   #121
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Can i get a drop in 10mm barrel for my glock21 & just put in a 10mm mag?
Or is it too hot of a load for my glock21???
You will need a KKM conversion barrel, and the 21 is good to go, running 10MM. There are those that feel just taking a 10MM barrel in is fine, but not me. The barrel hood is slightly different dimensions, and although will fit, it's not a proper fit. Yes all that is needed after a conversion barrel is a G20 magazine.
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Old 01-01-2012, 18:54   #122
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Poor quality, disguised by unnecessary weight that makes it feel like it's built solid. They break a lot more than S&W. I rate them equal or a hair above Taurus. I've actually been required to use them in training - never made it through a week with a Ruger revolver or Mini-14 that it didn't have to be replaced with a working one.

Back in the days when we ALL carried revolvers and Ruger had just started making the GP 100 I remember how we all ridiculed the only guy I ever met who carried a Ruger. I think he finally traded it off just so we'd stop making fun of him. He wasn't one of the "gun guys" in the department.
Mine served me well while I carried it. I would have been well served by carrying a 686 too. I always thought I was a gun guy, but I guess I was mistaken. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Old 01-01-2012, 18:54   #123
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Who has a Witness 10mm? Good or crap?
Witness is a decent inexpensive 10mm

They did/do have some problems with the newer models, wonder finish cracking.

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/10m...sh-t81791.html

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Eaa...Cr-t99696.html

And a jamming problem on this one

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EAA...s-t109641.html

A feeding problem

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/EAA...al-t98842.html
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Old 01-01-2012, 18:58   #124
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Who has a Witness 10mm? Good or crap?
I do. Great trigger, very accurate.
Unless I ram the mags in they occasionally drop out.

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Old 01-01-2012, 19:00   #125
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I have a 10mm Witness and I shot it alot, I started reloading 10mm to support it. I have loaded some kinda hot rounds, but haven't really pushed it and its held up well. Mags were hard to get for a while, but I have plenty now. I've only carried it a little, but thats because I'm still working on the kydex holster I made for it. I think more 10mm would be on the market if they were a good design or offered something desirable without the high price. I have a G20 and the Witness, both were reasonably priced, I don't see why more 1911s aren't offered in 10mm at a reasonable price, the DE is nice just over priced.
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Old 01-01-2012, 19:00   #126
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You know, I have been a 10mm fan for some time now, interest rises and falls with the times. I would think it would be more popular since it gives semi auto pistol shooters a magnum level cartridge to play with. The ammo industry has hobbled the round by not loading it to potential so the only real way to explore it's potential is to handload, or buy off the internet from a company considered to be "boutique".

Then there are the companies who "try" to come up with new pistols. Vltor has been promising us the latest version of the Bren Ten. You know they had to sink a ton of money into R&D and also purchasing the rights to the name, yet where is the pistol? Some of the die hard fans have been strung along so much with that one I don't know that they would buy one now if it did hit the market. Times have changed too, about the only machined metal pistol that has a strong market is the 1911, most everyone else who is mainstream big in the market is polymer now. Is an expensive machined metal frame pistol going to be viable in todays market of inexpensive polymer wonder pistols?

I am a fanboy, but I just don't see my favorite caliber growing enough to become a major blip in the gun market.
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Old 01-01-2012, 19:33   #127
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Thanks for the feedback on the Witness 10mm, sounds like one might need to get added to my list...
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Old 01-01-2012, 19:45   #128
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Thanks for the feedback on the Witness 10mm, sounds like one might need to get added to my list...
It appears that you should avoid the newer rounded slides with the wonder finish and all the compacts, reading up on it the compact EAA witnesses have way to much hit and miss reliability which the full size guns don't.

Also in one of the links there is a discussion if the Witness can take full power loads of 10mm or not. Or full pressure loads. Or +P loads...is there a +p 10mm load?

It appears the elite version is the best compared to the standard.

I think a used Smith 10xx series might be a better non-1911 choice but the prices have gone up on those and as I posted the letter earlier not that many were made.

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Old 01-01-2012, 19:50   #129
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Here's what I want. A little pricey though.

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...and no, 10mm is not on any sort of rise, like has been said, all one has to do is look at the limited offerings in guns and ammo.
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Old 01-01-2012, 19:54   #130
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Can't say I know anyone that owns a 10mm pistol. I believe most of the guys I know take shot placement more seriously then caliber.
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Old 01-01-2012, 20:04   #131
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...and no, 10mm is not on any sort of rise, like has been said, all one has to do is look at the limited offerings in guns and ammo.
Who actually currently makes a 10mm platform?

Glock 20/29
Colt DE 1911
EAA Witness
Kimber 1911
Dan Wesson 1911
Fusion 1911
Smith 610
Sphinx 3000

Am I missing any?
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Old 01-01-2012, 20:36   #132
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Representing just 3 semi auto designs, and one revolver. A shrouded hammer snub nose in 10mm would be awesome.
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Old 01-01-2012, 20:40   #133
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Who actually currently makes a 10mm platform?

Glock 20/29
Colt DE 1911
EAA Witness
Kimber 1911
Dan Wesson 1911
Fusion 1911
Smith 610
Sphinx 3000

Am I missing any?
Yes! Bond Arms.
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Old 01-01-2012, 20:46   #134
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Thompson Center may still chamber a 10mm, Mech Tech, while not a gun maker per se manufactures one of their CCU units in 10mm, and Olympic used to make a 10mm upper for the AR 15.
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Old 01-01-2012, 20:53   #135
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I want a Ruger GP100 & SP101 in 10mm.
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I wouldn't carry a Ruger revolver if it was free, but I'd like to have a S&W 610 if I ever found one at the right price. My only current 10mm is a Colt Delta Elite.

I probably should have advertised on here when I let my S&W 1076 with Kentucky State POlice shoulder patch etched on the slide go for under $500 a while back.
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Poor quality, disguised by unnecessary weight that makes it feel like it's built solid. They break a lot more than S&W. I rate them equal or a hair above Taurus. I've actually been required to use them in training - never made it through a week with a Ruger revolver or Mini-14 that it didn't have to be replaced with a working one.

Back in the days when we ALL carried revolvers and Ruger had just started making the GP 100 I remember how we all ridiculed the only guy I ever met who carried a Ruger. I think he finally traded it off just so we'd stop making fun of him. He wasn't one of the "gun guys" in the department.
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Mine served me well while I carried it.
I better roll up my 5.11 tactical pant legs, it's getting deep in here.
I agree with WiskyT & Bullman.... And the millions of other Ruger revolver owners who know Ruger makes a good, strong, tank of a gun.
Sounds like you're just a Ruger hater, S&W Fan-boy.

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Old 01-01-2012, 22:14   #136
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Can't say I know anyone that owns a 10mm pistol. I believe most of the guys I know take shot placement more seriously then caliber.
It's too bad. If you knew someone who had one they may have let you try and shoot theirs. Then, you'd know how flat a trajectory the 10mm has and how accurate they can be. My 10mm's are more accurate than my 45ACP's.

Sorry, not jumping on the hate wagon.

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Who actually currently makes a 10mm platform?

Glock 20/29
Colt DE 1911
EAA Witness
Kimber 1911
Dan Wesson 1911
Fusion 1911
Smith 610
Sphinx 3000

Am I missing any?
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Thompson Center may still chamber a 10mm, Mech Tech, while not a gun maker per se manufactures one of their CCU units in 10mm, and Olympic used to make a 10mm upper for the AR 15.
+ Wilson Combat, Nighthawk Custom and Ed Brown used to.

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10mm wish list

S&W 10xx double stack
S&W M&P-10
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Old 01-01-2012, 22:50   #139
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I kind of had a wish to convert my 4516 to 10mm, and I thought I had found a guy to make the barrel, but I will get an e mail reply, and then not hear from the dude for a few months. I am about to give up, just get me a Glock 29 and be done with it. I might send the 4516 back to Smith and have some work done to it, maybe convert it to DAO, but I think I will just leave it as a 45.
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I think a used Smith 10xx series might be a better non-1911 choice but the prices have gone up on those and as I posted the letter earlier not that many were made.
Oh, there's a 1006 on the list already!
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