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01-21-2012, 11:49
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My Mossberg 930 SPX.
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01-22-2012, 20:41
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mossberg
the position of the safety made the decision for me. I own a Remington as well but prefer the controls on the Mossberg.
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01-22-2012, 21:10
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I like them both, but the controls of the 870 work better with a PG shoulder stock, which I very much prefer due to handling and retention capability.
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01-22-2012, 22:26
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I'll choose a Saiga 12 any day. High reliability from its AK47 platform, and truly a combat shotgun. Slap in a magazine (capacity 10) filled with buckshot or slugs, and you've got a semi-auto beast ready to roll.
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G19 G26 G30 Sig 2340 357 Beretta U22 (kid's) Two Saiga 12 Two Draco 7.62x39 "pistols" Colt 6920 Saiga SGL21-94, M92 Krinkov "pistol," PSA Patrol Carbine Saiga 223 CCDW KY
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01-29-2012, 20:48
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Just one shotgun, it would have to a Benelli for me. If its a pump then the Nova or Super Nova. Auto the the M1.
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01-30-2012, 05:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferdinandd
I like them both, but the controls of the 870 work better with a PG shoulder stock, which I very much prefer due to handling and retention capability.

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That's interesting. You are actually in much worse position in terms of weapon retention with the pistol grip.
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01-30-2012, 06:39
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Originally Posted by Nestor
That's interesting. You are actually in much worse position in terms of weapon retention with the pistol grip.
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01-30-2012, 07:56
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six of one half dozen of the other..
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Except for leverage on your end.
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01-30-2012, 11:47
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I have heard that said before but I am not sure I actually understand it. I might have to check out you tube to see if there is a video of it, but I just can't feature one being better than the other, and not sure why one would be worse. If that makes any sense.
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01-30-2012, 15:14
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Originally Posted by Bullman
I have heard that said before but I am not sure I actually understand it. I might have to check out you tube to see if there is a video of it, but I just can't feature one being better than the other, and not sure why one would be worse. If that makes any sense.
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You may want to check "StressFire Vol. 2" by Massad Ayoob. I think that he explained that pretty well.
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01-30-2012, 16:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nestor
You may want to check "StressFire Vol. 2" by Massad Ayoob. I think that he explained that pretty well.
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Now that I think about it a little bit in a situation where you were going hand to hand and using the butt to give someone a "nudge" it would be much more better without the pistol grip in that instance.
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01-30-2012, 17:09
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Originally Posted by Bullman
Now that I think about it a little bit in a situation where you were going hand to hand and using the butt to give someone a "nudge" it would be much more better without the pistol grip in that instance.
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The biggest problem with the PG is that your hand is locked between the grip and stock if the BG is holding the other end of your shotgun. You either have to let it go or have your fingers ripped out of the socket. More details with the pictures are in the above mentioned book. Regular stock is much safer choice.
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02-02-2012, 20:09
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Of the few I have, I'd go with my Saiga 12.
It's semi auto, chambered for 3", 19 inch barrel, can hold up to 20 rounds for defense, quick reloads with additional magazines/drums, as simple to operate as an AK47, and so far is as reliable as one. Just a change of recoil spring for the low brass target loads.
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02-03-2012, 10:21
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Hmmm..... How about the AA-12?  No I probably couldn't aquire a fully automatic shot rocker. Make mine an 870 wingmaster.
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02-03-2012, 17:09
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The market for the 870 is like the market for the AR, there are a lot of accessories and parts for it out there. It's proven itself well.
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02-03-2012, 18:04
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870 due to the steel receiver and safety location working much better with a pistol gripped stock than that of a Mossberg. I prefer it over the Super Nova due the less expensive barrels and availability of Surefire forends.
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02-07-2012, 09:29
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My new Ohio made 37 Defense. Best SG I've bought in a long time.
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02-08-2012, 19:45
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I've developed a bit of a High Standard fetish over the years. Never come across a smoother rackin' shotty. Its my go-to shotgun, snag up any 18-7 I find. My beadsight model (the bare metal trigger guard) is my HD gun.
Barring that, I reckon I'd take a mossberg 590. Like the control layout and the lack of that lifter when loading. Or as I've heard it said before, High Standard=The gun Mossberg wanted to be.
NOTE: Before anyone asks. the O/U is legal. 3/4" above legal, but legal and purchased from an FFL nonetheless. Interesting supposed history but no paperwork to back it (though I was promised it at time of purchase  ). Never shot it, nor do I really intend to.
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02-08-2012, 21:22
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Saiga 12!
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02-08-2012, 21:29
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Mossberg 930 24" turkey as an all around solid performer. Smooth action. Tapped for rail. Mag extension options easy + affordable. Shoots 3". 935 shoots 3.5" = overkill IMHO. Big bang for the buck AND I love semi auto across the board.
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02-08-2012, 21:40
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Remington 870.
It is proven and ubiquitous. I personally like it and have used it more than any other shotgun.
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02-12-2012, 10:34
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I own both a Mossberg 500A (28" bbl) and a Remington 870 (18.5" bbl, extended magazine tube). If I could only have one, though, I'd have to go with the 870. It's what I use at work, and what I've trained the most on.
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02-12-2012, 14:30
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When it was time to buy a shotgun, I looked at what would work for me and what my finances were at the time. I ended up buying a Mossberg 500 persuader 12 gauge. It is my hd and 3 gun shotgun. Never had a problem with it and would consider taking it as my shtf weapon depending on circumstances.
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03-09-2012, 11:09
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One more question
Is there an advantage to Synthetic over wood?
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03-09-2012, 13:28
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disturbd deputy
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You don't cry as much when a sythetic stock gets scratched up.
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